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re: Lululemon fired employees for videoing thieves and calling police.

Posted on 5/28/23 at 5:45 pm to
Posted by Chucktown_Badger
The banks of the Ashley River
Member since May 2013
31092 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 5:45 pm to
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as a rule against calling the police without proper approval in a theft situation.


Huh?
Posted by Tantal
Member since Sep 2012
13947 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 5:47 pm to
Not that I've bought a product from Lululemon, but they should be boycotted. They've proven that they'll flagrantly allow criminality, then pass the loss off to their law-abiding customers.
Posted by LSUstudent4life
Houston
Member since May 2008
1861 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 5:48 pm to
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What do the people look like who be stealing?


FIFY
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11500 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 5:52 pm to
Box stores fire employees for stopping thieves all the time. It is cheaper to absorb the shoplifting theft than to settle the lawsuits from "bad" stops.

The real retail theft is done by employees. I have seen Cashiers steal tens of thousands of dollars by skimming gift cards and seen multiple rings of cashiers under ringing for their accomplices costing tens to thousands to hundreds of thousands.

The loss at self checkout from people stealing is probably peanuts compared to what people were doing.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 5:53 pm
Posted by MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Member since Jun 2017
15598 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:00 pm to
Retail stores generally write off theft on their taxes.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1008 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:01 pm to
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Well that's dumb. Let's let them finish robbing the bank because we need to complete our paperwork first


Let's not compare a bank to $75.63 worth of t-shirts. The police are always contacted by asset protection, once they have everything squared away. Whats the officer going to do 5 mins after they leave? Nothing. Its a waste of time. One overzealous employee wrongfully calling the cops on someone NOT stealing and you have yourself a $2 million dollar lawsuit. Over $75.63. Like I said, this a rule directly from the legal depts of these stores, for good reason. Also, calling 911 on a store phone disables the phone system for hours.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1008 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:05 pm to
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Box stores fire employees for stopping thieves all the time. It is cheaper to absorb the shoplifting theft than to settle the lawsuits from "bad" stops.

The real retail theft is done by employees. I have seen Cashiers steal tens of thousands of dollars by skimming gift cards and seen multiple rings of cashiers under ringing for their accomplices costing tens to thousands to hundreds of thousands.

The loss at self checkout from people stealing is probably peanuts compared to what people were doing.


This is all accurate. Internal theft is like 70% of avg shrink for big box retailers. People don't realize that most people stealing significant amounts from stores are caught within a couple weeks. You don't need people to stop them, send in the info and let the police do their jobs.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
71373 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:07 pm to
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Was it in their policy not to confront or follow thieves out of the building? Most companies have this policy. It's to protect against lawsuits that are significantly more expensive than a bunch of t-shirts, that cost 3 dollars to make. My point is, either you side with a private businesses right to run their business, or you don't.


You can agree with business rights and also think this is asinine.

Reading your posts, you sound like a lawyer so it makes sense you'd like corporate policy over common sense.
This post was edited on 5/28/23 at 6:11 pm
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
25307 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:22 pm to
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You don't need people to stop them, send in the info and let the police do their jobs.
Its clear you dont live in a great urban cultural mecca like Baton Rouge, NOLA, Shreveport etc...
Posted by Squedunk
Around Dumb People
Member since Jun 2008
671 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:27 pm to
He's a POS. Lululemon could've done training with these women instead of firing them.
Posted by yellowfin
Coastal Bar
Member since May 2006
97627 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:30 pm to
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Let's not compare a bank to $75.63 worth of t-shirts


$75 might get you one tshirt at lulu
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:35 pm to
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What do the people look like who are stealing?

Not getting banned today
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93711 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:40 pm to
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$75.63 worth of t-shirts.


That’s just one tshirt
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22290 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:42 pm to
I used to work with someone for five years that works in DevOps for Lululemon Corporate now. The company is mega woke.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1008 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:47 pm to
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$75 might get you one tshirt at lulu


Shrink is not based on retail value, it's based on cost.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
48467 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:49 pm to
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The company is mega woke

I think that's the default setting now although some are worse than others.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1008 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 6:51 pm to
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He's a POS. Lululemon could've done training with these women instead of firing them.


Did I ever say they should be fired? I actually think they should have been talked to, explained why it was dumb, and left at that. I chased many a criminal in my day, and fricking hate thieves, that doesn't change the logic behind why I agree with their policies. Retail employees shouldn't be responsible for chasing and capturing thieves, its not worth it.
Posted by GeauxOCDP
Member since Jul 2015
1008 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:01 pm to
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Reading your posts, you sound like a lawyer so it makes sense you'd like corporate policy over common sense.


Common sense would be NOT losing tens/hundreds of millions of dollars in lawsuits. I'm not a lawyer, but these policies are made by the legal divisions of each of these companies, because they will lose a shite ton of money... All of them have the same policies, but I'm sure you and your "common sense" know much better.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44814 posts
Posted on 5/28/23 at 7:06 pm to
Should be legal to shoot thieves on site
Posted by lz2112
Largo, Fl
Member since Oct 2019
1172 posts
Posted on 5/29/23 at 1:09 am to
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But they’re doing it because they don’t want it known that folks are stealing shite left and right to protect their “brand”.



Or to reduce their tax liability. I wonder how the IRS feels about assisting people to steal your merchandise that reduces the government's piece of the pie.

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