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re: Louisiana requests federal assistance to help struggling crawfish farmers

Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:12 am to
Posted by Honest Tune
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:12 am to
Sounds like the situation as it was described to me. Re: the passing and son taking over. It’s a nice facility.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:21 am to
There might be some but the land won’t be for sale. You’ll just have to lease land that has a farmer that went out of business. Most farmers wouldn’t take on more land unless they buy the land.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:24 am to
Yeah but when we getting 32 degree weather they are getting harder freezes for longer periods. Not a good recipe for raising crawfish.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:30 am to
We haven’t gotten a big subsidy in years. You act like we get subsidies e every year. You keep proving that you don’t know what your talking about.
Posted by White Bear
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Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 11:42 am to
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We haven’t gotten a big subsidy in years. You act like we get subsidies e every year. You keep proving that you don’t know what your talking about.
My response was to your comment about “they ain’t no young farmers” and that’s it.
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:12 pm to
If crawfish farmers haven't picked up the money they hid on their taxes and have a down year, I don't see how thats the responsibility of the rest of us.

It's not like they are catching 20% of a "normal" (whatever that means, always a moving target) year and selling it for $1.50 a pound where there would be an actual loss. So what exactly are we subsidizing?



ETA: and all commercial fisherman can now stand on "I pay my taxes" because the IRS cracked down on the industry for all of the cash payments and now they receive 1099's.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:31 pm to
I got records of all my volume caught each week dating back years. 20% of my average volume for this week. It’s facts I’m not just floating made up numbers out there. As far as taxes I pay taxes like everyone else. I pay on on all my catch I don’t sell them for cash
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

There might be some but the land won’t be for sale. You’ll just have to lease land that has a farmer that went out of business. Most farmers wouldn’t take on more land unless they buy the land.

Will you let me know if some does come up for sale? Crawfish farming sounds fun
Posted by Nome tiger
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:39 pm to
Explain all the Texas crawfish farmers between Houston and Beaumont if Clay isn’t conducive for crawfish. If you see soil other than clay or clay loam you are about to walk off into the gulf.
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
2409 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:43 pm to
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Calling it a loss this year will end the crawfish industry as you know it.


may not be a bad thing. i'll put out my own traps.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19166 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:43 pm to
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Why doesn't the govt just help all businesses?

This will be unpopular and I realize farmers need to be subsidized but if the government props up every business and bails people out like in the 2008 recession and Covid, that's not capitalism in my opinion. Some businesses should fail if it's a mismanaged or poorly run business.
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5057 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:45 pm to
Man I’m not a scientist I’m just going off of my observation. Of course there’s other elements. Like Mid said climate has a lot to do with it. Which Texas is similar to us, I don’t know Texas crawfish yields maybe you do. There’s less and less farming land in Texas with development expanding east towards Winnie and problems with water, but I’m sure you know that.
This post was edited on 2/22/24 at 12:48 pm
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5057 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:46 pm to
That’s what’s good about America you have that right Goodluck!!
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5057 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:57 pm to
If a business is ran poorly or mismanaged you are correct you shouldn’t bail them out.
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
24176 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 12:59 pm to
and the crawfishers didn't budget properly. no bail out
Posted by SWLA92
SWLA
Member since Feb 2015
5057 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:04 pm to
Yep all the crawfishermen are idiots and none of them budgeted properly bunch of fools….
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36765 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:05 pm to
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I got records of all my volume caught each week dating back years. 20% of my average volume for this week. It’s facts I’m not just floating made up numbers out there. As far as taxes I pay taxes like everyone else. I pay on on all my catch I don’t sell them for cash




So if you are catching less, but getting a lot more for them, why is a bailout needed?
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6170 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:06 pm to
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Explain all the Texas crawfish farmers between Houston and Beaumont if Clay isn’t conducive for crawfish. If you see soil other than clay or clay loam you are about to walk off into the gulf.



You should probably learn more about land types before commenting

The land between Beaumont and Houston is a type of prairie silt loam - the same type of soil that most of the rice grown in swla is
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
6170 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:09 pm to
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So if you are catching less, but getting a lot more for them, why is a bailout needed?


Because his revenue is probably $5000 a week instead of normally $50000
And his inputs for the fall on those ponds were 4 times higher
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
42430 posts
Posted on 2/22/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Is Gueydan not in swla because there is plenty of ground that hasn’t been farmed there in a while
Plenty of land in Cameron/calcasieu /alllen that’s cow pasture instead of rice field now


Cows are more profitable and a lot of that ground is marginal for crawfish and rice.

If just about any farm that has been crawfished successfully comes available, someone will pick it up. We are not going to lose crawfish acreage because of this year.
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