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re: Louisiana requests federal assistance to help struggling crawfish farmers
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:16 am to Twenty 49
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:16 am to Twenty 49
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I'm sure many of the conservative farmers will be too proud and principled to accept a government handout
Or maybe they look at it from the perspective that any federal money they receive is simply the government giving back some of the money they have paid in taxes.
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Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:49 am to SWLA92
quote:yes, someone can wake up one day and decide to farm. They might hire some mentoring or partner with the knowledge, but it’s absolutely something new someone can pick up.
The older farmers are getting out the business there’s just not enough young farmers anymore. No young person wants the headache of farming. You can’t just wake up one day and decide to farm. Yeah some farmers might absorb neighboring farms that go idle but there will still be a void.
Listen, crawfish, both supply and demand, is not as special as you think. It’s your world and I understand that, but it needs to go through the natural cycle.
Government assistance for crawfish… is silly.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:57 am to ChestRockwell
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The newest excuse is now the overpopulation of geese, which are eating the crawfish.
Nobody is using this excuse. The geese eat the stubble not the crawfish and they run the water quality. Crawfish farmers fight them every year during this time
Posted on 2/25/24 at 7:59 am to Nephropidae
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Government assistance for crawfish… is silly.
Unless you're an old money well connected crawfish farmer who's owed some favors
Posted on 2/25/24 at 9:55 am to Midtiger farm
Nobody? Not from what I was told. They're nothing but snake oil salesmen. Been deceiving the consumer for decades.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:24 pm to ChestRockwell
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Nobody? Not from what I was told. They're nothing but snake oil salesmen. Been deceiving the consumer for decades.
Told from who? Let me guess - they heard Neil Melancon who is a reporter not a farmer misquote a farmer on Twila this week
How have crawfish farmers been deceiving the consumer? Please enlighten us
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:31 pm to Midtiger farm
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How have crawfish farmers been deceiving the consumer? Please enlighten us
The majority of these people can't even admit that crawfish prices don't continuously go up. They conveniently forget when prices are low and the boils are rolling at record pace.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 12:31 pm to kywildcatfanone
True. Crawfish farmers are not the only one. When it comes to the local boilers.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 2:32 pm to Midtiger farm
By jacking up prices year after year by using BS excuses. It's gotten to a point of pathetic. At least come out and say fuel and costs are more, instead of the weather nonsense. Every year, it's too much rain, not enough, too hot, too cold, global warming, and now geese. My source is a rice farmer in Acadia Parish. Out of respect, I'm not naming names, and don't want days off. Trust me, the consumers, are sick of the excuses. Many farmers don't pay the taxes on the profits, so I have ZERO sympathy for any of them. It's a compete scam, money making racket, that the squirrels in Pierre Part have made for themselves by inflating the market prices. I'll just go buy Chinese crawfish or get then from the spillway or Pearl River for free, instead of giving a dime to those con artists.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:44 pm to Nephropidae
Of course anyone can wake up and decide to farm. If you have the money to get started, but Joe Blow isn’t going to start farming thousands of acres, without forking over hundreds of thousands of dollars to get started. Anyone can do 10 acres hobby ponds. As far as the crawfish supply and demand it’s basic business. Every business has supply and demand. You can spew all you want that crawfish isn’t like every other business you’re flat out wrong. Go look on Facebook and see every boiling house and restaurant has been sold out almost every night the past week.
This post was edited on 2/25/24 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:46 pm to ChestRockwell
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The majority of these people can't even admit that crawfish prices don't continuously go up. They conveniently forget when prices are low and the boils are rolling at record pace.
See....
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By jacking up prices year after year by using BS excuses. It's gotten to a point of pathetic.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 3:53 pm to ChestRockwell
Here we go again with people just spewing BS. Before this year, average prices to the farmer in, 2021, 2022, 2023 have dropped I have records of that so you are completely wrong with the “jacking up prices”. And your “source” apparently doesn’t know what he’s talking about, because geese only eat the stubble. There’s an argument that no stubble means smaller crawfish but that’s it. It doesn’t hurt the population. Your source is why people don’t like crawfish farmers, because he’s bullshiting you. As far as the taxes I know I pay my fair share in taxes i don’t sell my crawfish for cash so I have to show it all when I turn in all my stuff to the CPA. Everything you just mentioned in your post is the only scam going around. Enjoy your Chinese crawfish dipshit.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:16 pm to SWLA92
Did I say all fishermen don't pay taxes? My old man was a commercial fisherman for 60 years and always said crawfish prices are the biggest scam next to people giving their life savings to pastors. My pal has been in the business for almost 30 years, so I trust his word. I'm just saying it's ridiculous to consistently screw the public every year with excuses. Get upset all you want. Just stating the facts.
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:26 pm to ChestRockwell
You’re not stating facts everything you have said is an invalid opinion. You haven’t said one fact. What’s a fact is the average price to the farmer has dropped the last 3 years before this year. 2021-$2.29lb 2022- $2.11lb
2023- $2.01lb those are actual factual figures. So you tell me how we’ve “jacked the price up” every year?
2023- $2.01lb those are actual factual figures. So you tell me how we’ve “jacked the price up” every year?
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:38 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
So, you can't accept help to feed hungry children, but you run to Washington to beg for farmers?
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:47 pm to SWLA92
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The older farmers are getting out the business there’s just not enough young farmers anymore. No young person wants the headache of farming. You can’t just wake up one day and decide to farm. Yeah some farmers might absorb neighboring farms that go idle but there will still be a void
Catfish is the same way. Tons of older farmers retiring and nobody to take the farms over.
It’s hard to get a loan for catfish anyways due to production costs being 10k per acre. You better have collateral and know what you’re doing
Posted on 2/25/24 at 4:59 pm to ChestRockwell
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Trust me, the consumers, are sick of the excuses.
So sick that damn near every restaurant in the area sold out this weekend
Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:05 pm to ChestRockwell
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By jacking up prices year after year by using BS excuses. It's gotten to a point of pathetic. At least come out and say fuel and costs are more, instead of the weather nonsense. Every year, it's too much rain, not enough, too hot, too cold, global warming, and now geese. My source is a rice farmer in Acadia Parish. Out of respect, I'm not naming names
I doubt you have any kind of source loser and it’s been proven many times on this board time and time again that prices don’t continually go up
The last 2 years the avg price was lower than the previous 2 years - last year was lower than the previous 10
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Many farmers don't pay the taxes on the profits
Also totally false - most crawfish acres is certified at FSA and they have to provide records when there is a disaster payment
Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:21 pm to Midtiger farm
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Also totally false - most crawfish acres is certified at FSA and they have to provide records when there is a disaster payment
Remember the ICON lawsuits?
Posted on 2/25/24 at 5:23 pm to SWLA92
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So you tell me how we’ve “jacked the price up” every year?
The fly-by-night distributers jacked up the prices. They will probably all be out of business after this year.
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