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re: Louisiana Is Running Dangerously Short Of Groundwater

Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:31 am to
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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They report bs.

No different when they tried a gotcha at Trump. Trump said you can use a scarf or anything to try to use as a mask.

They tested one type of wool scarf, the most breathable kind and stated, scarfs perform poorly. That's not reporting, it's bullshite.


*Checks notes*

Yep, TDS is a two-way street.

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Most states have regional commissions that oversee their vital groundwater resources. Texas, for example, has 98.
Louisiana has just two.

That includes one in Baton Rouge, where the state Board of Ethics recently charged five of the commission's 18 members with conflicts of interest, because they are employed by companies the commission is supposed to be regulating.

At the state level, there are two legislative committees responsible for managing water. But the IRW and WWNO/WRKF investigation found more than a third of the 25 legislators who sit on them have business ties to major groundwater users.



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After this story first aired in Louisiana, Republican Senate Environmental Quality Committee Chairman Eddie Lambert said he was concerned about the issue. He said he may look into the problem and supports a "comprehensive study" that examines Louisiana's groundwater supply.

"Pristine drinking water should not be used by industry or agriculture," Lambert said.

At least 12 separate reports — done at taxpayers' expense over the past 70 years — have urged the state to create a comprehensive water management plan.

Posted by Daygo85
Member since Aug 2008
3069 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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And let's take it a step further than that. Water can be be man made fairly easily. And then that water could be filtered and made drinkable. Of all the resources that we consume on this planet, water should be dead last on the list of things to be concerned about.


So you work for a plant that can make its own clean water. And that is easy to do. I get it. But tell me, how would you get that water to say, oh I don't know, about a million people?
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48844 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:31 am to
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And let's take it a step further than that. Water can be be man made fairly easily. And then that water could be filtered and made drinkable. Of all the resources that we consume on this planet, water should be dead last on the list of things to be concerned about.



Wow. Just wow.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
17477 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:32 am to
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I think it is what is called a hypothesis.

Merriam says you're correct!

-a proposition to be proved or one advanced without proof : hypothesis
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27098 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:32 am to
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Of all the resources that we consume on this planet, water should be dead last on the list of things to be concerned about.


You work at a place that pumps water from a river, so you know all about subsurface and surface hydrology and how it relates to water rights and movement of water from one jurisdiction to the other. There have literally been wars fought over access to water, but yeah, not a concern t all.
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 8:33 am
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:32 am to
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So you work for a plant that can make its own clean water. And that is easy to do. I get it. But tell me, how would you get that water to say, oh I don't know, about a million people?


You would have a water treatment plant big enough to supply a million people.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:33 am to
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Have you ever listened to NPR? Or looked up the credentials of their people?


Yeah, I know. NPR is very slanted, politically.

This story is not.
Posted by elprez00
Hammond, LA
Member since Sep 2011
29386 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:34 am to
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Water table =/= aquifer. The water table is part of the aquifer, but the shallow water table you encounter when digging your footers is hardly a useful as a source of fresh water for a population more than a family.

No shite. But you’re still missing the point. There is no shortage of fresh water sources in Louisiana. This isn’t Arizona which has no other fresh water sources. We have the technology. Again, this article is nonsense
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:35 am to
I don't pretend to "know all about subsurface and surface hydrodynamics". I'm just participating in the conversation.
As are you.

I'm just not buying the "OH MY GOD WE ARE IN A CRISIS!!!!!!" behind water. Sorry.

Posted by The Goon
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2008
1243 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:36 am to
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Thank you. In true OT fashion people are acting like they understand hydrology because “I seen a puddle this morning, hurhurhur”


I think it’s more of the idea we have the MS River flowing through the middle of the state and NPR stating we have a water crisis.

The crisis is we have the worst state and local government in the US, and they have no intention in solving any issue unless they get a cut. We have the ability to separate and filter water, pump water to different locations, and even reservoir water. This is done all over the world. We just need a government that can fund projects without grifting 20% of the funds or directing feasibility studies to a friends engineering firm.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124225 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:36 am to
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quote: Water is taken for granite.

Rock solid idiom there.

Very well done


Not sure if intentional, but gneiss if it was.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20446 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:37 am to
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Wow. Just wow.
Yeah I figured you would get your gay little comment in.
Posted by eatpie
Kentucky
Member since Aug 2018
1135 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:38 am to
Well, we channeled the Mississippi River, to control annual flooding. The result being less water making it to the aquifers. Seems like a clear case of unintended consequences. Blame the Army Corp of Engineers. Louisiana needs to get paid.
Posted by ArmydawgMD
Member since Sep 2020
453 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:39 am to
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This is all a control issue. They started this nonsense in WP about a decade ago. You essentially needed a permit to shoot a well on your own property. It all went back to their desire to build a reservoir. I wasn't opposed to the reservoir aside from them using eminent domain to take people's property.


If one person screws up a well it can contaminate the ground supply for the whole community. That's why it is regulated. The property argument is dumb. Waterways/rivers/beaches should not be privately owned.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90617 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:39 am to
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It's simple, easy and free.


Lol these people have never irrigated anything.

Let them walk a poly pipe punching holes in 98 degree heat and pay the 150 dollar a day electric bill or diesel bill to run the pump and see if it’s easy or free.

Groundwater use is a big problem here in the Ms delta too. I think flood controls have caused it where the shallow aquifers don’t replenish like they used to, on top of increased irrigation. You can’t stop growing crops though. This is why many farmers are putting in tailwater recovery systems where you catch the drainage and store it in large canals or ponds for reuse.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120268 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:39 am to
This article is seriously asserting that LA has a water shortage? wtf
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68244 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:42 am to
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, it puts Louisiana on the brink of a groundwater crisis more common in Western states
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An analysis by the Investigative Reporting Workshop and WWNO/WRKF
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the Investigative Reporting Workshop is one of 18 university-based investigative journalism centers in the nation and the only one in Washington, D.C
The bullshite meter is pegged to the right. Worthless sources who have no semblance of balance.
Posted by Daygo85
Member since Aug 2008
3069 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:43 am to
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You would have a water treatment plant big enough to supply a million people.


OK. So please do correct my thought process here if need be. Right now we have many small water plants throughout the state of LA. Most of the water plants get their supply from under ground sources that may be running dry (mind you in the distant future. Not an immediate problem).

So we are going to build one big plant. 1. How are you going to supply this plant with water if it cannot tap under ground supplies? 2 How are you going to then get the water to the smaller plants for distribution?
This post was edited on 3/19/21 at 8:44 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124225 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:43 am to
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Water can be be man made fairly easily.



Sure, it just takes Hydrogen and Oxygen and a LOT of energy.

Considering we’d need it on a massive scale, I think you’d find the prospect of making water out of gases instead of, you know, just finding or desalinating the water that is available much more efficient.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37519 posts
Posted on 3/19/21 at 8:44 am to
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still think the chemical plants pumping millions of gallons per day from deep aquifers is a bigger deal than a farmer flooding his rice fields.


Most chemical plants and almost all new ones pull from the MS River. Yes there are still plenty that pull from the aquifers, but the article openly says 61% is used for agriculture. Farmers could utilize in clarified MS River water for irrigation and help replenish soil at the same time due to silt deposition as opposed to taking suspended solids free water and using it.
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