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re: Louisiana: Repeal of film credit fails again, along with income tax reduction

Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by CocomoLSU
Inside your dome.
Member since Feb 2004
156644 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Less people

Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
12298 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:19 pm to
It is not the role of the government to pick winners and losers. Tax credits targeted towards certain industries is doing just that. If the industry is a loser here, there is no reason to use taxpayer money to incentivize it.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9776 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:44 pm to
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Shouldn't the bigger story here be that YET AGAIN the legislature failed to reduce our income tax? Something that was promised to be done when the state approved Landry's tax swop earlier this year?


They were already reduced from 6% to 3% for anyone making over $50,000 annually. I’m not one to turn down another tax reduction, but let’s not pretend that most of us didn’t already get a 50% reduction in state income taxes.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
49661 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:51 pm to
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It is not the role of the government to pick winners and losers. use


Yet this is exactly what Trump is doing with tariffs.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28603 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:56 pm to
The movie industry employs tradesmen including carpenters, electricians, commercial drivers, caterers, and a lot of other folks. That's actually a pretty good use of a tax credit because of where the money actually flows.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 5/13/25 at 3:58 pm to
Nobody’s making movies here anymore so who cares?
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
36224 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 4:48 pm to
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I see nothing wrong with using tax credits to bring jobs to Louisiana.


I’ve always thought we should give tax credits to oncologist and certain cancer research centers.

1. It would hopefully attract doctors to move here. That trickles down to hiring nurses, staff and they have money to spend at restaurants and other services they use.
2. Doctors typically prioritize their kids education. That makes our state less dumb.
3. We have cancer alley, why not bring people here to treat and research on it?
Posted by rltiger
Metairie
Member since Oct 2004
2446 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 5:21 pm to
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They were already reduced from 6% to 3% for anyone making over $50,000 annually. I’m not one to turn down another tax reduction, but let’s not pretend that most of us didn’t already get a 50% reduction in state income taxes.


We should have Zero state income tax. I’m not gonna thank them since now they give me a reach around.

Our annual state budget is over 44 billion. Ridiculous.

Alabama’s is 40 billion with @23% more people

Tennessee is 56 billion with @ 62% more people

I pay an obscene amount in taxes and all I see is state and federal elected officials continue to overspend and benefit financially from these expenditures.


Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 5:25 pm to
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It is not the role of the government to pick winners and losers. Tax credits targeted towards certain industries is doing just that.


I respect the theory of your opinion, but the fact is that if Louisiana doesn’t do it, other states will, and those credits make a difference to businesses. They will factor them into their plans. It’s a don’t hate the player, hate the game situation
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15451 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 5:49 pm to
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“If we keep paying out $125 million a year to a single industry, we’ll never have the room to give that money back to working families.”


How about this, just stop stealing money from working families in the first place?
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
58222 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 6:06 pm to
Yup. The other states and Europe do it . That is one reason Trump is looking at tariffs as Europe heavily subsidizes film productions.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2567 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:31 pm to
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Even if a good portion of it is to fund the salaries of out of state millionaires and the jobs created pay a pittance?


The salaries are a very short sighted way of looking at it. They are injecting millions of dollars from outside of the area into the local economy that would otherwise be spent elsewhere.

Using rough numbers from the article there are $125MM in tax credits per year. If the credits are a 40% rebate for money spent in LA then it can be assumed that the movie industry injects $300MM into the state of LA's economy each year.
This post was edited on 5/13/25 at 8:51 pm
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2567 posts
Posted on 5/13/25 at 7:41 pm to
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It is not the role of the government to pick winners and losers. Tax credits targeted towards certain industries is doing just that. If the industry is a loser here, there is no reason to use taxpayer money to incentivize it.


That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at is the government is doing their job of selling our state to outside investors. They are going to invest the money somewhere. Our elected leaders owe it to the citizens to create growth opportunities by attracting new businesses and new industries to our state, not sit on the sidelines while the investment goes to neighboring states.
Posted by BlackAdam
Member since Jan 2016
7182 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 10:33 am to
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Nobody’s making movies here anymore so who cares?


That is true. Almost nobody is making movies anywhere in America. The previous administration helped the unions strong arm the MPA into a contract that made domestic film production cost prohibitive.

I know a lot of local crew who have not worked in film since late 2023.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42653 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 11:25 am to
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Using rough numbers from the article there are $125MM in tax credits per year. If the credits are a 40% rebate for money spent in LA then it can be assumed that the movie industry injects $300MM into the state of LA's economy each year.


The rebates are between 85 and 90 per cent.

There have been numerous studies including one by the State Auditor that the state gets z return of 25 cents on the dollar.

The state has limited resources, and it’s obvious that the state could get a better return on their investment and get outsiders to come to La. and build permanent facilities which employ workers year round.
Posted by armytiger96
Member since Sep 2007
2567 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 1:40 pm to
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The rebates are between 85 and 90 per cent.


Article states 40%. I have no idea if you or the article are correct.

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The motion picture production tax credit, in place since 2002, offers up to 40% in rebates for in-state expenditures by film and TV productions, with additional incentives for employing Louisiana residents or investing in rural areas. Louisiana Economic Development has reported that the program issued over $500 million in credits since 2018.


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There have been numerous studies including one by the State Auditor that the state gets z return of 25 cents on the dollar.


I take studies with a "grain of salt" because they can always be manipulated based on assumptions and desired outcomes.

Do the studies take into following revenue generated from:

Sales tax on items purchased for production
Sales tax on private money spent by those that temporarily relocate here for the project
Hotel occupancy taxes
Gasoline tax
Income tax
Vehicle rentals

Do they take into consideration indirect residual revenue such as increased tourism?
Do they take into consideration additional income or sales taxes each time money exchanges hands once its been injected into the economy?

If so how do they accurately measure these . . . That's right assumptions.

This post was edited on 5/14/25 at 1:41 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42653 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 2:36 pm to


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Article states 40%. I have no idea if you or the article are correct.

I stand corrected, the law was changed a year or so ago.

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I take studies with a "grain of salt" because they can always be manipulated based on assumptions and desired outcomes.


I’ll go with studies made by the Legislative Auditor over some random poster on a message board every time.

But then the study was made the credits were much higher so it’s out of date.
Posted by Mingo Was His NameO
Brooklyn
Member since Mar 2016
37536 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 2:37 pm to
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I’ll go with studies made by the Legislative Auditor over some random poster on a message board every time.


Ones probably an idiot and the other is probably corrupt and/or incompetent
Posted by Drank
Member since Jun 1864
Member since Dec 2012
12344 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 2:52 pm to
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Or do we all want to live in wooden shacks by sugar cane fields or in swamps.



Not sugar cane fields or swamps but absolutely on a mountain and/or in the woods.
Repealing film tax credits is a TERRIBLE idea, however.
Posted by MyRockstarComplex
The airport
Member since Nov 2009
5056 posts
Posted on 5/14/25 at 4:00 pm to
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Almost nobody is making movies anywhere in America.


“Hold my beer”
- New Jersey

Again, ebbs and flows. The markets tank and rebound. The business is fickle.
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