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re: Let's have a nice American Civil War argument
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:43 pm to Salmon
Posted on 1/29/19 at 12:43 pm to Salmon
After the first half of the 1800s the UK was already courting the US for eventual support in European conflicts.
There were plenty of international observers watching the battles during too. Mechanized warfare was a new thing to be witnessed, studied, and improved upon.
There were plenty of international observers watching the battles during too. Mechanized warfare was a new thing to be witnessed, studied, and improved upon.
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Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:01 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Melt Day: 56,177 
tGoat american
tGoat american
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:05 pm to PhilipMarlowe
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Melt Day: 56,177
I don't care who you are... that's funny
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:05 pm to Cdawg
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This topic becomes so silly.
Always devolves to the simplest booger fight
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:20 pm to MLCLyons
The SE US has more advantages than anywhere else in the country. Extremely fertile farming land. Major sea ports. The union saw value in the region. To say we would have struggled as an independent country is laughable.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:25 pm to AUCE05
The SE US would have struggled as an independent country.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:39 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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"It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all. Even if this were true, which we deny, . . .
Cui Bono?
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:51 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
The sole cause of the civil war was corrupt politics. Politicians putting their own self interests above country. Funny how these assholes never learn.
Kill 700,000 citizens and these idiots are still on the same path.
Kill 700,000 citizens and these idiots are still on the same path.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 1:52 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
IT WAS NOT ABOUT SLAVERY. IT WAS ABOUT STATE’S RIGHTS!!!!
to own slaves.
to own slaves.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 4:42 pm to browl
Wow, you guys are lost. What a shame it is. Seemingly smart fellas, too.
ETA. I now remember this exact same thing happening the last time this topic came up on the OT.
ETA. I now remember this exact same thing happening the last time this topic came up on the OT.
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 1/29/19 at 6:09 pm to browl
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ETA. I now remember this exact same thing happening the last time this topic came up on the OT.
It’s an OT favorite topic. Vietnam is a favorite as well when it comes to military history.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:06 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
It's hilarious that anyone would argue that slavery was not a root cause of the Civil War or that slavery was some benevolent institution. The Confederacy was created, and seceded, to maintain its abominable slave-based economy and lifestyle. To argue otherwise is misplaced pride in carrying dead people's baggage.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:11 pm to Saint Alfonzo
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I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races … I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of Negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races from living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be a position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race.
A. Lincoln
Posted on 1/29/19 at 7:43 pm to TDsngumbo
ETA: Damnit! liz18lsu beat me too it! 
This post was edited on 1/29/19 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 1/29/19 at 8:06 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
All of those quotes proved to be correct. The South’s leaders were smart and honorable men, not some backwoods racists.
There’s a reason we call it the war of Northern Aggression
There’s a reason we call it the war of Northern Aggression
Posted on 1/29/19 at 9:20 pm to deltaland
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This post was edited on 10/15/20 at 8:40 am
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:21 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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all government derives its validity from the consent of the governed.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:44 pm to browl
You are correct sir!!!
The Civil War was fought because the rich northerners were not happy that the backwards morons in the South had more money than they did. The north had industry and they were prosperous. However, the South had agriculture and they were even more prosperous due to the fact that the south had FREE LABOR!! This made the South more prosperous than the north by a large divide. The north would not let this stand. 1st came the crazy taxes, then WAR!!.
It was about economics!
Abolishing slavey was the only way to level the playing field.
The Civil War was fought because the rich northerners were not happy that the backwards morons in the South had more money than they did. The north had industry and they were prosperous. However, the South had agriculture and they were even more prosperous due to the fact that the south had FREE LABOR!! This made the South more prosperous than the north by a large divide. The north would not let this stand. 1st came the crazy taxes, then WAR!!.
It was about economics!
Abolishing slavey was the only way to level the playing field.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:51 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
My grandfather always said that the war of northern aggression was about state’s rights.
Looking back, he was ridiculously racist in almost all aspects of his life except whenever he talked about this. When I see him in hell I’ll have to ask him about it.
Looking back, he was ridiculously racist in almost all aspects of his life except whenever he talked about this. When I see him in hell I’ll have to ask him about it.
Posted on 1/29/19 at 10:54 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
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Let's have a nice American Civil War argument
Sure, if it pops off again... Soibois will lose Bigly
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