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re: Layoffs disproportionately are effecting HR and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion teams

Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:31 am to
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122166 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:31 am to
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People in useless roles do nothing for the economy. With less of these folks sucking up the profit that my folks generate, we’d be able to hire more productive folks and grow the business. But no, we need to slow everything down and run all hires through some BS funnel so some DEI folks can have a job. That job could go to someone actually productive.



Okay, I got it. Seriously, this I have no problem with.

It might actually cost a company more to do this, but diversity hires should be an opportunity and not a privilege. What I mean is.. if someone is a diversity hire, that person should know and after a year a review is done on the person. Are they doing the job as good or better than someone else we can bring in..

That creates incentive and if it works out, that's great. If not, then a company shouldn't be limited by keeping that person. Of course it would cost the company money to keep having to make a diversity hire then replace them if it doesn't work out after a year.

I don't have a problem with giving people an opportunity, but if they suck, a company shouldn't have to keep them. It should be like an NFL team. If someone is named a starter and then they end up playing like shite, they get benched and they try to find a better fit.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
74858 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:43 am to
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Finding joy in the misery of others is the sure sign of a very small, insecure, sad man.


somehow i doubt that you lost sleep when unvaccinated employees were being fired. hypocritical POS
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27784 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:50 am to
Anyone who went into DEI as a life long career is an idiot. It’s a product of a labile societal shift. A whim of the times.

People smart enough to jump in for a year or so? Cheers to you. Gamed the system. Otherwise you’re a moron.

HR departments will survive. People to hire people will always be needed and to enforce basic policies. Violence , sexual harassment, employee impairment, and OTJ injuries. All the woke nonsense? The pendulum gets back to the middle of allowed to rest.
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
3025 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:53 am to
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What % of people of a company generate revenue for said company? “Need product” is cost of goods sold - nope Deliver product to customers is delivery expense - nope Marketing creates demand but is sales promotion and advertising and ATL/BTL expense - nope Customer operations sends the invoice to customer - nope On and on goes the not revenue generating train


Your definition of non revenue generating is terrible

As I said, sales needs a product or service to sell and there is execution on that product or service required to deliver to the customer. So yes, they are directly tied to revenue.

Btw I’m not in sales but sales can’t do their job without me, so yes, I’m in a revenue generating position
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 7:57 am
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
134636 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:54 am to
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I am shocked at how stupid you are in every single thread.
It's not ignorance regarding one topic, you are legitimately the dumbest person on this website.

Lastly, what surprises me the most is how you feel compelled to say something in every thread, even when you have nothing of value to add. This shows just how stupid you are.


Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29726 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 7:57 am to
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Yes, sales can be bloated, but that’s never where you start.


The only checks a company cannot afford to write to a sales person are small ones.
Posted by CunningLinguist
Dallas, TX
Member since Mar 2006
19239 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:02 am to
I guess I take issue with the diversity part of the DEI being useless. We use LSS principles all the time to drive down costs and identify opportunities. A diverse and outside the box set of ideas is crucial to LSS. Getting people from diverse backgrounds helps immensely in that Kaisen world.
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
16709 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:04 am to
Well as it should be the most useless employees are the first out.
Posted by 92Tiger
Member since Dec 2015
617 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:06 am to
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He’s a masochist so yeah he enjoys watching people lose their job



Admittedly, my BDSM game is rusty since my time in Germany, but isn't a masochist one who enjoys receiving pain, and a sadist one who enjoys inflicting it?
Posted by Bruco
Charlotte, NC
Member since Aug 2016
3025 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:09 am to
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guess I take issue with the diversity part of the DEI being useless. We use LSS principles all the time to drive down costs and identify opportunities. A diverse and outside the box set of ideas is crucial to LSS. Getting people from diverse backgrounds helps immensely in that Kaisen world.


Maybe it depends on industry. My industry is pretty binary. Getting an opinion from a black person vs a white person is not relevant in any way shape or form.

All the DEI group has done is foist upon us people who are not qualified. All of our diversity hires have flamed out. We do have diverse people in our group but they were actually qualified, so they have done well.

It’s also hilarious that Asian and Indian folks no longer qualify as “diverse” in our company. We get no DEI credit when we hire them. It’s such a joke. We have also never, ever been pressured to hire a Hispanic person. It’s never come up. We all know what DEI really means.

We would never, ever hire a white male with the background the DEI candidates have. They’d never even get an interview

There are positions in our company where these diversity hires could likely succeed. But no, we need to treat every division the same, so we put them in technical positions and set them up to fail. All so we can feel good about ourselves and DEI folks can have a job. It’s impossible to fire them but luckily they typically self select out due to the pressures of the job.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 8:31 am
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:11 am to
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I am shocked at how stupid you are in every single thread.

It's not ignorance regarding one topic, you are legitimately the dumbest person on this website.

Lastly, what surprises me the most is how you feel compelled to say something in every thread, even when you have nothing of value to add. This shows just how stupid you are.



Not only that, but he openly votes for all of the policies that lead to this sort of bullshite, then tries to mock anyone that disagrees with his stupid ideals.

The ultimate "useful idiot"
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
25893 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:15 am to
Lets be honest. These DEI positions provide no value to a company. In fact, they often achieve an outcome that is the opposite of their initial objective.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48410 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:24 am to
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Finding joy in the misery of others is the sure sign of a very small, insecure, sad man.


Get fricked. These people would have gleefully had me and every other unvaccinated white male sent to an extermination camp last year. Yes, I'm happy to see these people lose their jobs and I hope they have to live under an overpass for the rest of their lives.

This isn't a case of bad things happening to good people. This is a case of bad things happening to awful people, and I can't say I'm terribly upset about it.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89779 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:25 am to
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YES!! The best thing I’ve heard all week is about people being fired!!” Loser


These peoples jobs is to find some obscure thing to fire people.

Oh he didn’t wear his blm sticker today. He needs more equity training.

They are the ones that cancel people.
This post was edited on 11/17/22 at 8:27 am
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
28283 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:26 am to
Let's hope colleges are next.University
of Michigan has a DEI staff of 163 and a quarter make over 100k
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
48410 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:46 am to
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I guess I take issue with the diversity part of the DEI being useless. We use LSS principles all the time to drive down costs and identify opportunities. A diverse and outside the box set of ideas is crucial to LSS. Getting people from diverse backgrounds helps immensely in that Kaisen world.


Diversity for the sake of diversity is never a good thing.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299569 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:49 am to
No issue with diversity, but the only diversity that matters is of thought.

It seems these companies still love generalizing and stereotyping by race to get "diverse thought" using gender and race as a filter.


Seems backward and lazy.
Posted by JKLazurus
Member since Jun 2016
261 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:54 am to
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"76% of job seekers and employees consider diversity and inclusion when sizing up potential employers". What a load of crap and outright lie!


I’m surprised it’s not higher. It should be 100%. It’s a zero sum game, and everyone should consider how they’d be impacted if they accept a job.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
55454 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:54 am to
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Let's hope colleges are next.University
of Michigan has a DEI staff of 163 and a quarter make over 100k


You can forget colleges doing this. They live in an alternate reality where they use YOUR money to carry out all of their clown world fantasies. These people could never survive in the real world. Higher Ed is a protected bubble of useless degrees while people rake in lots of money for doing nothing.

Of course, these same people would exterminate you in a heartbeat, you know, because tolerance.

Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
19485 posts
Posted on 11/17/22 at 8:55 am to
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I was told by this board’s fine denizens that it was all the lazy, good for nothing remote workers who were getting hit with layoffs.


Did you not read the title or something? It says it right there

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Layoffs disproportionately are effecting HR and Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion teams
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