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re: LaToya Cantrell rips story about S&WB owed $134M: 'What do you want to do, screw the city?

Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by ibldprplgld
Member since Feb 2008
27867 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:07 pm to
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If a city can't run something as simple as water and sewage collection, what can it be trusted to run?



Well, Nola's water and sewerage is anything but simple, but I take your point that the city has lost the right to run it. Privatize it and let's call it a day.
Posted by joshwj93
Member since Feb 2019
627 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

If a city can't run something as simple as water and sewage collection, what can it be trusted to run?

They got those dangerous statues off the streets baw
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91871 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:10 pm to
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That's a relief. Student daughter called and said she needed $500 for the water bill. What?? Moved in and didn't get a bill for six months.


I don't have a ton of sympathy (not that you're asking for it) for people who don't get a bill for a while and then get one for 6 months at once. If you're using water, you should pay for it. If you're not getting a bill, I don't expect you to voluntarily send in payments, but you should inquire about it and/or keep money aside for when it ultimately arrives.
Posted by beaverfever
Arkansas
Member since Jan 2008
36327 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:15 pm to
How stupid are people that think the government should be given control over more parts of our lives?
Posted by lionward2014
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2015
14525 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:16 pm to
My last month bill was nearly $200, or about 4x's higher than the average on a month that has less days...It is insane how dumb the people that run the SWB are.
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20733 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:28 pm to
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How do they have $134M in unpaid bills?


Chances are that figure isn’t correct. They’re probably including the $20,000 bills some people have gotten.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:29 pm to
you have to love the epicenter of this backwards arse shithole of a state. we have the mayor of our biggest city scolding the press for reporting the truth because it may cause her claims for money to effectively become a fraud
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41600 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:30 pm to
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How do they have $134M in unpaid bills?

You don't pay the water bill, shut the water off. If you don't have consequences to not paying a bill, then why would you pay it?


It's a horrific combination.

1) Years and years of horrific leadership at that organization, combined with DGAF employees

2) A billing system that is so completely, utterly screwed up, that no one has any reasonable idea if the numbers are accurate or not

3) No one on staff who can figure out how to fix the numbers / program

4) Terrible inputs - because of the lack of a competent meter read staff, many of the billing inputs are incorrect or just flat out made up

5) A significant part of the population feels they shouldn't have to pay a water bill for any reason, and they are taking advantage of this.

It's almost to the point where they just need to say, F it, and wipe out all the unpaid bills, and start fresh with 0 balances for everyone. Maybe, maybe, we can fix the issues going forward, but I don't see any way we can ever really fix the past issues. It's that bad.

Edit: I understand the moral hazards of wiping the slate clean and starting over with billing. It's not an action I would recommend lightly. It's that bad.
This post was edited on 3/20/19 at 12:35 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:33 pm to
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My brother's neighbor in Lakeview received a $73,000 bill f

culture
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 12:55 pm to
I'm all for giving them the money, as long as it's delivered by the Legislative Auditors after they've crawled so far up New Orleans' arse that they taste its breakfast before it does and people are in jail.
Posted by Higgysmalls
Ft Lauderdale
Member since Jun 2016
8017 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:33 pm to
If they can’t meter it properly, they need to set a base price. If you don’t pay you don’t bathe
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 1:44 pm to
The thought of her and her cronies being able to turn around the S&WB is high comedy. New Orleans is fricked.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
Member since Jun 2008
51852 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:20 pm to
New Orleans needs to get rid of the current water system and embrace a new way.

Air to water generators
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
7520 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:29 pm to
But whatabout political patronage?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
122522 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:32 pm to
At least she doesn't sit around watching TV rambling on twitter about a former senator who passed away months ago.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33424 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:46 pm to
Sounds like the S&WB will not turn off service for the supposed indigent population/mayor’s voting base and want to pass those bills onto the wealthier customers
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25427 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 2:58 pm to
You're giving them too much credit. There's a much simpler explanation.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:00 pm to
Non-payment of water and sewer service is a real thing, compounded by municipal ordinances that require habitations to have it.

In other words, water and sewer service will become the next government freebie. Democrats, unite.
Posted by OvertheDwayneBowe
Member since Sep 2016
3531 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:07 pm to
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It's almost to the point where they just need to say, F it, and wipe out all the unpaid bills, and start fresh with 0 balances for everyone. Maybe, maybe, we can fix the issues going forward, but I don't see any way we can ever really fix the past issues. It's that bad.


Or just come up with a reasonable household rate per household. I think mine is always around $80 per month. So $55 for water after taking out trash service.

Make everyone pay the same rate for a few years and backdate that for people who haven't paid or dispute their bills. Then you call it even.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45405 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 3:55 pm to
The S&WB won't know until June at the earliest how much money they are owed. That's why people aren't paying their bills. The bills aren't accurate, and people won't know until June. In the mean time their leaders are hoping for a cash infusion from the state until they can get things together.


quote:

According to the committee's accounting, the S&WB charged customers $680.5 million for sewer and water service over the past three years but collected only $546.6 million, leaving about $134 million owed.


S&WB Executive Director Ghassan Korban, who is just beginning his sixth month in charge of the broken agency, told the committee that it would be June before the agency could provide an accurate figure.
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