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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:33 pm to Malik Agar
Posted on 5/14/22 at 2:33 pm to Malik Agar
quote:Just ”America Last” politicians visiting their constituents.
Our traitors in the senate went to visit zelensky to get their cut of the money.
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:07 pm to tokenBoiler
Posted this on the Political Board but will do so here now, it's nothing unusual to have these visits, they are good for all sides.
And to say that war is fake or overblown or not happening because it is at least somewhat safe to travel is nonsense.
Bush went to Iraq. Freaking LBJ went to Vietnam during the Vietnam war for Chrissakes.
And to say that war is fake or overblown or not happening because it is at least somewhat safe to travel is nonsense.
Bush went to Iraq. Freaking LBJ went to Vietnam during the Vietnam war for Chrissakes.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:10 pm to Eurocat
Another case of your stereotypical redneck who's never left the country, if not their state, and suddenly they're foreign policy experts because they slurp up what the RT feeds them.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 3:11 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:12 pm to Centinel
You're right centinel. I have lived there for 30 years now and the lack of knowlege frustrates me no end.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:12 pm to Centinel
I know this is pretty typical Russian behavior and they do it to us several times a year off the coast of Alaska, but given the situation anyone you military baws feel is more likely something happens one time over Finland or another European country? EU country shoots down the Russian?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:19 pm to Eurocat
I look back on when I boarded that flight at Dulles en route to Kuwait City, leaving the US for the first time sixteen years ago, and how I viewed the world...compared to now, having lived in four countries, visited close to thirty, and spent six years working directly with quite a few European and Middle Eastern militaries and civilian populations.
To say I was naïve prior to leaving the US, even after a BA and MA in Political Science focusing on Foreign and Security Policy, is an understatement. It's one thing to learn these subjects in an academic setting. It's quite another to live them for a career.
My academic learning taught me why this war is so important geopolitically. Having worked with and shared meals with Ukrainians made it hit home at a practical level.
Strategic vs. Tactical, if you will.
To say I was naïve prior to leaving the US, even after a BA and MA in Political Science focusing on Foreign and Security Policy, is an understatement. It's one thing to learn these subjects in an academic setting. It's quite another to live them for a career.
My academic learning taught me why this war is so important geopolitically. Having worked with and shared meals with Ukrainians made it hit home at a practical level.
Strategic vs. Tactical, if you will.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:20 pm to Ronaldo Burgundiaz
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Just ”America Last” politicians visiting their constituents.
Shut the frick up and pay up tens of billions of dollars to the most corrupt country in Europe without any kind of oversight into how the money is spent. They're standing up for Democracy™ on the other side of the world. So what if our own politicians are getting a cut of this money -- stopping Putin is worth it!
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:48 pm to Centinel
Did this thread vanish from the board?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:49 pm to Sooner5030
Someone unpinned it.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:50 pm to Malik Agar
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to the most corrupt country in Europe
Feel free to provide evidence of this that does not involve the Russian Ministry of Defense, RT, or QAnon.
Oh, and also feel free to detail how much time you've spent outside the US interacting with other parts of the world. Let's see if my theory stays true.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:51 pm to dgnx6
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My Ukrainian buddy told me a story
Why are you friends with Nazis?
Because he kills Russian commies.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 3:57 pm to Malik Agar
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Shut the frick up and pay up tens of billions of dollars to the most corrupt country in Europe without any kind of oversight into how the money is spent. They're standing up for Democracy™ on the other side of the world. So what if our own politicians are getting a cut of this money -- stopping Putin is worth it!
The most corrupt country on the continent is Russia. Ukraine is ranked 122 on the Corruptions Perceptions Index and Russia is ranked as 136. LINK
Now go back to RT or TASS or dumbasses4maga.com or toostupidtounderstandwhatamerica1stactuallymeans.net and get a better talking point.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 4:16 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:01 pm to WeeWee
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dumbasses4maga.com
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:05 pm to Eurocat
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Russian President Vladimir Putin is “very ill with blood cancer,” an oligarch close to the Kremlin said in a secret recording obtained by New Lines Magazine.
quote:LINK
Russian President Vladimir Putin appeared to have dark blotches on his cheeks in a video released May 11, 2022.
Putin allegedly has leukemia. I know as an MD I am not suppose to root for cancer. However I am rooting for cancer and I am rooting for a very painful treatment course for Vladimir the Not So Great.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 5:00 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:16 pm to WeeWee
Dr Mike Martin
Interesting take on why Russia's Army in Ukraine might collapse sooner than expected.
Interesting take on why Russia's Army in Ukraine might collapse sooner than expected.
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And in many places the Russians look overextended. It’s very easy, for instance, to cut the coastal link up the Russians have created between Donbas and Crimea.
So, if skilful, the Ukrainians should focus on creating this fear and panic amongst the Russian forces—that way they are likely to engender complete collapse amongst them.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 7:22 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:22 pm to Centinel
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to the most corrupt country in Europe Feel free to provide evidence of this that does not involve the Russian Ministry of Defense, RT, or QAnon. Oh, and also feel free to detail how much time you've spent outside the US interacting with other parts of the world. Let's see if my theory stays true.
How much of the legendary Ukrainian corruption is directly attributable to the fact that Russia occupied/controlled Ukraine for the entire 20th century and has had its stooges trying to proxy rule it since then?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:24 pm to Centinel
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Someone unpinned it.
That’s a real shame. This thread has stayed remarkably on point, with minimal flaming, and provides solid coverage of what is functionally the first peer v. peer war of land conquest since WWII (apologies to Iraq v. Iran, we hardly knew ye).
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:37 pm to ned nederlander
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Someone unpinned it.
Guess that means the war is over then
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:41 pm to StormyMcMan
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Guess that means the war is over then
Putin got his resources, our politicians got their laundering money, war over
Posted on 5/14/22 at 4:49 pm to Obtuse1
I know this is an old post I'm referencing, but as a M1A1 and M1A2 tank crewmember for over 20 years, I enjoy following armor tactics and battles.
It's hell. Maybe not as much in an IFV, but in a MBT, a knife fight can be very disorienting to tank crews. 4 guys all talking on the intercom and 2 radios full of traffic along with the sound of a 120 mm cannon, 2 7.62 machine guns and a 50 cal it is chaotic. As a driver you can't hear commands from the TC, as a gunner it can take a minimum of say 4 seconds between main gun engagements is about enough to make a huge pucker factor.
In a platoon (4 tanks) upon contact, it takes all 4 crewmembers on each tank to execute their duties. Action right or left depending and start reigning hell. But that all goes out in a knife fight. It's pop smoke and reverse to keep the front slope at the enemy and ty t find an IV line or cover. You don't want to go forward because you can overrun the smoke.
I didn't watch the video in question, so I am not speaking to the actual video. But IF your tank is operational, you are going to fight your tank and Death Before Dismount.
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Being a light infantry grunt at heart I don't remember the mounted battle drill for a near ambush
It's hell. Maybe not as much in an IFV, but in a MBT, a knife fight can be very disorienting to tank crews. 4 guys all talking on the intercom and 2 radios full of traffic along with the sound of a 120 mm cannon, 2 7.62 machine guns and a 50 cal it is chaotic. As a driver you can't hear commands from the TC, as a gunner it can take a minimum of say 4 seconds between main gun engagements is about enough to make a huge pucker factor.
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If your vehicle is still operational you immediately return fire, pop smoke, and move out of the kill zone.
In a platoon (4 tanks) upon contact, it takes all 4 crewmembers on each tank to execute their duties. Action right or left depending and start reigning hell. But that all goes out in a knife fight. It's pop smoke and reverse to keep the front slope at the enemy and ty t find an IV line or cover. You don't want to go forward because you can overrun the smoke.
I didn't watch the video in question, so I am not speaking to the actual video. But IF your tank is operational, you are going to fight your tank and Death Before Dismount.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 4:53 pm
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