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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:48 pm to Stidham8
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:48 pm to Stidham8
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There’s no rail-lines further south in the East?
Yes that is another rail line supplying the Izyum axis of advance, but there is no direct rail connection between the two lines. In order for supplies to be moved to the front by rail from Belogrod (which is the main supply hub for the Donbas operation) they must be sent by an indirect route which is almost 600 km long (per google maps) just to reach the other line. Then there is the fact that the other supply rail line is likely already maxed out on capacity so it cannot absorb the extra demand. The road detour is much shorter but like I said earlier it is over a single two lane highway and it is likely that the bridges on that highway are not built to support military traffic. Even if Russia can bypass it having that road and rail line line cut is going to limit the supplies being delivered to Russia which is going to hurt them because they already have tanks and trucks running out of fuel and being abandoned on that front because of lack of supplies.
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I doubt Russia would give it up so easily if it was that vital to success.
1. Russia did not give it up. The Ukrainians have just advanced over the Russian resistance and are within rocket and artillery range of the rail line.
2. Russia has shown to have a piss poor understanding of logistics so far during the war so they might give it up.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 5:03 pm
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Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:50 pm to TBoy
Poland could handle the Belarusians by themselves; however, the US would slaughter the Belarussian army in direct combat. The term Overkill comes to mind.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:50 pm to TBoy
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Vaclav Havel
Great politician and man. I may have disagreed with him on multiple subjects, but I have to give him credit for what he did to move Eastern Europe out of Russian influence towards the EU (and NATO to some extent).
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:52 pm to Centinel
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Great politician and man. I may have disagreed with him on multiple subjects, but I have to give him credit for what he did to move Eastern Europe out of Russian influence towards the EU (and NATO to some extent).
I agree. Havel and John Paul II were like a 1-2 slap to wake people up from their slumber.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:52 pm to Chromdome35
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Poland could handle the Belarusians by themselves
shite, based on the performance of the "Special Military Operation", Poland could handle Russia by themselves.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 4:59 pm to Centinel
I bet Putin wishes he could turn back the clock to mid-February and change his decision-making.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:05 pm to Centinel
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based on the performance of the "Special Military Operation", Poland could handle Russia by themselves.
Drop the steel cage, only one is walking out.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:07 pm to Lakeboy7
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Drop the steel cage, only one is walking out.
And it will be Poland. Those baws have their shite together, and hate Russia with the fire of a thousand suns.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again:
We aren't in Poland to stop Russia. We're in Poland to stop Poland.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:21 pm to Centinel
That’s damn interesting. I had no idea.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:29 pm to Havoc
The Russians airbrush out the beginning of WWII, not letting anyone forget that they whipped Hitler and trying to not let anyone remember having carved up Poland with him, committing the Katyn massacre and expropriating all private property in Poland. The Poles haven't forgotten.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:38 pm to TigerDoc
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The Poles haven't forgotten.
No, no they have not. I spent a week working with their officers in Krakow on an upcoming exercise. Russia came up. You could literally feel the rage coming off of them. It became almost uncomfortable, and the topic was quickly changed.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:40 pm to Havoc
At this point I'm starting to wonder if Vlad has made his way down the dementia road and is making threats that the military would not follow through with. We're not being told the whole truth on the Ukrainian situation. I have no doubt that any surplus military hardware we give them will be sold and the money will make its way back to the Bidens. Just look at who has gone over there. All Democrats (too bad the Russians didn't target that train) and the woman who is stuck changing Joe's diaper.
Look at the past 12 months. The economy went south and the media jumped on the Beijing Olympics. Gas started going up and we got 24/7 Ukraine. Russia was beat back so to get people to ignore gas prices we get this SCOTUS leak. The laptop was verified so they push out this batshit crazy Dept of Truth bitch. And now as the movement away from the center has slowed, they've taken Roe and poured gasoline with this Ultra-MAGA bullshite from both Joe and Peppermint Patty. (It’s going to backfire on them.) I just hope that our decisions as a country are truly being made in the best interest of all parties. I have very little reason to believe they are.
Look at the past 12 months. The economy went south and the media jumped on the Beijing Olympics. Gas started going up and we got 24/7 Ukraine. Russia was beat back so to get people to ignore gas prices we get this SCOTUS leak. The laptop was verified so they push out this batshit crazy Dept of Truth bitch. And now as the movement away from the center has slowed, they've taken Roe and poured gasoline with this Ultra-MAGA bullshite from both Joe and Peppermint Patty. (It’s going to backfire on them.) I just hope that our decisions as a country are truly being made in the best interest of all parties. I have very little reason to believe they are.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:44 pm to MSUDawg98
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At this point I'm starting to wonder if Vlad has made his way down the dementia road and is making threats that the military would not follow through with. We're not being told the whole truth on the Ukrainian situation. I have no doubt that any surplus military hardware we give them will be sold and the money will make its way back to the Bidens. Just look at who has gone over there. All Democrats (too bad the Russians didn't target that train) and the woman who is stuck changing Joe's diaper.
Oh look, another Magastanian. Did you ever consider that maybe, just maybe, despite Potato Joe being incompetent, backing Ukraine was the correct decision considering they were invaded for a second time this decade by Russia, for bullshite reasons?
I detest Biden, and I detest progressive democrats. However backing Ukraine is the right move, both strategically and militarily. I can look beyond my hatred for Biden to see this. Why can't you?
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 5:45 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:49 pm to Centinel
I have ZERO problem with them/us backing Ukraine. My comment was more about the media and how they have been acting like the propaganda wing of the DNC.
ETA: And the political stunt Pelosi pulled by not bringing a bipartisan group of legislators.
ETA 2: Take a look back through the thread. I have been on the opposite side from most of the people arguing against helping Ukraine.
ETA: And the political stunt Pelosi pulled by not bringing a bipartisan group of legislators.
ETA 2: Take a look back through the thread. I have been on the opposite side from most of the people arguing against helping Ukraine.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 5:54 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:50 pm to Centinel
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I detest Biden, and I detest progressive democrats. However backing Ukraine is the right move, both strategically and militarily.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:54 pm to MSUDawg98
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ETA: And the political stunt Pelosi pulled by not bringing a bipartisan group of legislators.
Like it or not, they are the majority. And I would also ask, did Pelosi not ask for Republicans to join, or did she ask and they said no?
I honestly don't know the answer, but I wouldn't put it past Republicans to refuse her offer out of spite. And I wouldn't put it past Pelosi to not even ask out of spite. There's no question she's a hyper-partisan toxic bitch, but she has her equals on the other side as well.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 5:56 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 5:56 pm to MSUDawg98
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I have ZERO problem with them/us backing Ukraine.
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I have no doubt that any surplus military hardware we give them will be sold and the money will make its way back to the Bidens.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 6:04 pm to Centinel
quote:Kingzinger sure didn't refuse the 1/6 appointment and he's one of the most qualified Republicans to visit and assess the situation. She didn't want anyone except Democrats being in the footage of that meeting. It's politics but some things should be above all else and she is incapable of seeing that.
did Pelosi not ask for Republicans to join, or did she ask and they said no?
I honestly don't know the answer, but I wouldn't put it past Republicans to refuse her offer out of spite. And I wouldn't put it past Pelosi to not even ask out of spite.
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quote:No doubt. The difference is she been there so long and can get away with it. If there is a red wave I think the committee floors will be covered in blood by the time they are done with investigations and stripping committee assignments. (Likely why there's so many battles in the GOP primary with Trump vs moderate Republicans.)
There's no question she's a hyper-partisan toxic bitch, but she has her equals on the other side as well.
This post was edited on 5/10/22 at 6:12 pm
Posted on 5/10/22 at 6:07 pm to Tigris
quote:Well considering the Bidens have already used Ukraine to funnel money into their pockets and the grift that always occurs when you throw slush funds to the MIC... Both statements can be and very likely are true.
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I have ZERO problem with them/us backing Ukraine.
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I have no doubt that any surplus military hardware we give them will be sold and the money will make its way back to the Bidens.
Posted on 5/10/22 at 6:07 pm to MSUDawg98
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She didn't want anyone except Democrats being in the footage of that meeting.
Not surprising in the least. Like I said, hyper-partisan toxic bitch.
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It's politics but some things should be above all else and she is incapable of seeing that.
She sees it, she just doesn't care.
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