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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 5/4/22 at 11:35 am to Lakeboy7
Posted on 5/4/22 at 11:35 am to Lakeboy7
Old Russian woman REALLY doesn't think much of Ukrainian woman. They are both in Sweden. Not really war related but funny to see her just lose her shite.
YT vid
Has anyone seen a good article about who would fill the power vacuum if Vlad kicks the bucket or is ousted? I am curious about the devil you know etc.
YT vid
Has anyone seen a good article about who would fill the power vacuum if Vlad kicks the bucket or is ousted? I am curious about the devil you know etc.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 11:39 am to Obtuse1
This might be the biggest proof that Russia is planning on announcing war and mobilization on May 9
LINK
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?? Kremlin spokesman: War declaration on May 9 'nonsense.'
Kremlin's spokesman Dmitry Peskov dismissed reports that Russia could officially declare war against Ukraine and start a national mobilization on May 9, when Russia celebrates the Soviet Union's victory in World War II.
LINK
Posted on 5/4/22 at 11:41 am to Obtuse1
The irony is Russia could be a superpower if they would embrace western ideals and methods like Ukraine has. Not the kind of superpower Putin aspires to be, but a superpower nevertheless.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 11:59 am to Lakeboy7
quote:This surgery could not have come at a worse time for Vladimir. The time that Putin spends in theater and recovery for his surgery will be critical. We know he has burned bridges with the FSB. That leaves the siloviki and the military leadership. We can safely forget the military leadership as we have seen what they are made of. So who wants to protect Putin now that he is not the all-powerful genius? Going forward, who wants to take responsibility this shite sandwich? The populace can be managed post-coup with propaganda, but is there someone with the ambition to take over? Or will they protect Putin?
potential coup activity.
I think the timing is right, cant do it quickly or he is a martyr. Plus it takes time to organize and you have to let the suffering sink in and you want some survivability, nobody wants to go on a one way trip.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:08 pm to Coeur du Tigre
Maybe he does not wake up from surgery.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:10 pm to roobedoo
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Maybe he does not wake up from surgery.
Man no pressure on the surgical team huh?
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:17 pm to Coeur du Tigre
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The populace can be managed post-coup with propaganda
This is the sad truth about the Russian people. They have never advanced beyond a strict hierarchical society and likely won’t. Russia should be broken up and ruled by democratic nations.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:25 pm to Kentucker
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This is the sad truth about the Russian people. They have never advanced beyond a strict hierarchical society and likely won’t. Russia should be broken up and ruled by democratic nations.
The model here is possibly South Korea or Taiwan. Both nations have an inherent respect for hierarchy and have evolved into modern democracies.
There’s a book on this (can’t remember it now). But basically to follow the SK/Taiwan model, Russia should be under authoritarian (but non-corrupt rule) for the next few decades slowly working in Western values and gaining the trust of the western world until a true democracy can be established.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:32 pm to Kentucker
Russia went from 600 years of the Romanovs to civil war to one of the most oppressive regimes in modern history… unlike the west, they never experienced the bourgeois gaining power… they went from extreme right to extreme left when no in between.
and at this point, they probably never will.
and at this point, they probably never will.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:32 pm to Lakeboy7
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Man no pressure on the surgical team huh?
Or maybe the surgical team has been paid...
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:41 pm to Spaceman Spiff
A little extra something, something in the IV.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 12:41 pm to BRIllini07
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The model here is possibly South Korea or Taiwan. Both nations have an inherent respect for hierarchy and have evolved into modern democracies.
I just don’t see it… western countries have controlled parts of Asia for decades/centuries… through colonization and/or military interventions… for better or for worse, that structure has left an imprint.
That hasn’t happened in Russia… they’ve been walled off for centuries
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:03 pm to Lakeboy7
quote:This whole thing is really reinvigorating the sense of pride I have in our military. The gap between "us" and "them" hasn't seemed wider at any other point in my lifetime.
And if it happens that SPC is ready, he has been trained for that contingency.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:04 pm to lowspark12
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I just don’t see it… western countries have controlled parts of Asia for decades/centuries… through colonization and/or military interventions… for better or for worse, that structure has left an imprint. That hasn’t happened in Russia… they’ve been walled off for centuries
Good point. Maybe it has to go region by region then. For instance, Ukraine seems to have shifted West remarkably between 2014 and now (but that required the annexation of Crimea to “scare” them a bit).
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:39 pm to BRIllini07
Ukraine is a relatively special case. It came into the USSR as a Soviet Social Republic under Lenin because it had a history of status as a "protectorate" with semi-autonomy and had even established itself as an independent Republic for about 5 years after rising up shortly after the October Revolution. It has its own language. Most Russians culturally have traditionally seen themselves as the "Great Russian" branch of the East Slavs with the Belorussians ("white Russians") and Ukrainians (pejoratively the "little Russians") being the others and the "Great Russians" will generally want a nation of their own and would be hard to divide. They're also so geographically spread they're hard to occupy. But if they started dropping nukes, maybe we'd try.
Russian media, of course, is playing up this "the West is coming for you now" to the Russian boomers, claiming the West is Nazi to invoke images of the Great Patriotic War (WWII).
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 1:51 pm
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:53 pm to lowspark12
quote:Russian nationalists would argue that is exactly what Western nations are doing in Finland, Poland, and Ukraine (and maybe even the Baltic states).
western countries have controlled parts of Asia for decades/centuries… through colonization and/or military interventions… for better or for worse, that structure has left an imprint.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/4/22 at 1:59 pm to Gravitiger
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Russian nationalists would argue that is exactly what Western nations are doing in Finland, Poland, and Ukraine (and maybe even the Baltic states).
Can Russian nationalists justify their invasions of Poland abd Finland ????
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:06 pm to doubleb
I'm sure they'd find some reason to. They're Russian nationalists.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:09 pm to Gravitiger
For sure. They justified invading Hungary and Chechoslovakia on Communist liberation ideology and they don't have that now. Now, it's "the west is coming for us so we have to take them out first" and then the ethnonationalist imperialist element sees itself as wanting Moscow at the head of pan-Slavic empire.
Posted on 5/4/22 at 2:19 pm to BRIllini07
Ukraine started shifting to the west as early as 2003-04.
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