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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:26 am to
Posted by jeffsdad
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 7:26 am to
Well, at least we know where Putin may demonstrate his tactical nukes.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:04 am to
Any big changes during the first 12 hours of the much anticipated Great Donbas offensive?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:11 am to
Good question
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45918 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:22 am to
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Good question



Well one thing is for certain. Russia has not learned to check the weather before starting an offensive. I just checked it and its raining all across the front today and supposed to be cloudy and in the 40s - 60s for the next 10 days. The ground is not going to dry up enough for tanks to move effectively off road.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:35 am to
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What happened to OMLandshark?

Hopefully in a straight jacket.
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:36 am to
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The ground is not going to dry up enough for tanks to move effectively off road.


Sitting ducks for Javelins and Switchblades.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
10362 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:40 am to
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Twitter - Major break from Kremlin policy at Siberian University -



FWIW, Novosibirsk State University is actually one of the few world-class universities in Russia. Thus, it doesn't surprise me that the faculty - many of whom travel much more extensively than the average Russian - would be against the war.

But it does surprise me that they feel emboldened to make a public statement. In normal times, a public statement like this would result in immediate death to a Russian academic career.

Given the heavy top-down administrative structure in Russian universities, this statement could be a sign that powerful people once loyal to Putin are greenlighting dissent.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 8:42 am
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61773 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:46 am to
I thought I read in the comments from the link that this wasn’t an official University URL so some are doubting the validity
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45918 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:54 am to
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The ground is not going to dry up enough for tanks to move effectively off road. Sitting ducks for Javelins and Switchblades


Don’t forget about the Ukrainian farmers.
Posted by MikeyFL
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 8:54 am to
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I thought I read in the comments from the link that this wasn’t an official University URL so some are doubting the validity



That also doesn't surprise me. There's no way such a statement could be made from the official university URL. Similar to China, university websites are constantly monitored by the government.
Posted by TideHater
Orange Beach AL
Member since May 2007
19934 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 9:43 am to
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You can

1) be very sad for the Ukrainian people and any prospect of western freedom and liberalism coming to their nation any time soon

2) oppose US involvement in the conflict


I am listening to the Dems and Biden. I am praying that the Ukrainian Azov Battalion, Right Sector, and White Hammer divisions beat back the Russians. Ukraine has had 8 years of civil war. If they want to be Nazis then that is no business of the Russians. Our racist Dems and Liberal leaders are wanting you to support Ukrainian Facism....so we def should.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:03 am to
Do we think we are getting to the point where Russia will lose Crimea and/or Donetsk? Is Ukraine showing signs of being emboldened towards that end?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54880 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:05 am to
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Do we think we are getting to the point where Russia will lose Crimea and/or Donetsk?
I think they are just trying to defend a likely more organized and more focused second attack phase at this point.
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 10:06 am
Posted by Palantir
I've been a Columbia House
Member since Oct 2020
691 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:10 am to
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I am listening to the Dems and Biden. I am praying that the Ukrainian Azov Battalion, Right Sector, and White Hammer divisions beat back the Russians. Ukraine has had 8 years of civil war. If they want to be Nazis then that is no business of the Russians. Our racist Dems and Liberal leaders are wanting you to support Ukrainian Facism....so we def should.
What
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46635 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:27 am to
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I am listening to the Dems and Biden. I am praying that the Ukrainian Azov Battalion, Right Sector, and White Hammer divisions beat back the Russians. Ukraine has had 8 years of civil war. If they want to be Nazis then that is no business of the Russians. Our racist Dems and Liberal leaders are wanting you to support Ukrainian Facism....so we def should.



Oh no. It's retarded.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29043 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:44 am to
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Do we think we are getting to the point where Russia will lose Crimea and/or Donetsk? Is Ukraine showing signs of being emboldened towards that end?

There is no doubt that Ukraine is motivated to keep its entire country intact. However, Russia still has the ability to overwhelm the Ukrainian military along a focused front. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a stalemate near the present lines.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24472 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:47 am to
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Any big changes during the first 12 hours of the much anticipated Great Donbas offensive?


I am looking to this board the get an idea as to whether Ukraine can push back against this onslaught. I read action is along a front for hundreds of miles. Soon the logistics lines will be stretched and the Ukrainians can fight back if they are able to. I have no idea right now.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45918 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 10:54 am to
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Do we think we are getting to the point where Russia will lose Crimea and/or Donetsk? Is Ukraine showing signs of being emboldened towards that end?



Ukraine has had some success with counterattack. They drove the Russian forces completely away from the eastern suburbs of Kyiv and had encircled most of the Russian forces Northwest of Kyiv before Russia retreated back to Belarus. However those success were limited in scope geographically. The Ukrainians are still in the process of mobilizing and training their reserves. It is still going to be awhile before they are ready launch a counter offensive that throws Russia back. However, they might get lucky as they continue their push on Kherson and cause the Russian conscripts to flee back to Crimea like the Russian conscripts around Kyiv fled back to Belarus.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:04 am to
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push back against this onslaught


Defense in depth, skirmish fall back to strongpoints, let the Russians get strung out and uneven then start hitting back. Thats worked pretty well so far.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 11:22 am to
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If they want to be Nazi’s that’s no business of the Russians


Given the country overwhelmingly elected a Jewish president, the odds that the Nazi influence of Azoz could seriously impact geopolitics is remarkably small.

And…as discussed 55 times in this thread, the current Eastern European definitions of “Nazi” vary significantly from what we think of that term in the West.
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