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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:56 pm to
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I’m sure this has been discussed in this thread… but does anyone here think it’s possible that the most recent footage of civilians killed execution style could really have been staged like Russia claims?


Yes it could be staged, but it’s highly unlikely. The journalists in the ground were reporting that the bodies had started to smell. An educated eye can see in some of the pictures that the bodies are swollen. That means they have been decomposing for over 5 days. Even though not winter there anymore but it still early spring in eastern europe so it’s cold enough there to slow decomposition. So if Ukraine did stage it they would have to bring bodies in from somewhere else. They couldn’t just kill civilians after the Russians left like the Russians are claiming.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:57 pm to
First confirmation I've seen of the 600 model being sent over...

The Pentagon plans to order and send to Ukraine 10 of the newest model Switchblade drones armed with tank-busting warheads in addition to previously announced deliveries of a less powerful version, according to two people familiar with the decision.

The new Switchblade-600 weapons are part of $300 million in lethal military assistance announced by the Pentagon Friday night that will be contracted directly from industry instead of drawn from existing stocks, according to the people, who asked not to identified discussing the plan.

Bloomberg LINK
This post was edited on 4/5/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 12:58 pm to
It’s not staged. It’s probably legit war crimes with the only other real option being that the Russians just left their own dead to rot during their retreat. The reported mass graves could absolutely be dead Russian soldiers.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:00 pm to
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The Pentagon plans to order and send to Ukraine 10 of the newest model Switchblade drones armed with tank-busting warheads


I hope that number is wrong. The switchblade is a one and done deal.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:03 pm to
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The reported mass graves could absolutely be dead Russian soldiers.

I suppose, but I saw a few pics of some people half-buried. They were all in civilian clothes. Not saying that is irrefutable proof, but I don't see the surviving Russians stripping their comrades of their gear/clothing and then going through the trouble of redressing their dead bodies.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:06 pm to
I haven’t seen the pictures and have no plans to look at them.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:08 pm to
I saw them before Twitter put the "sensitive material" tag on them. I'm not sure I would have looked otherwise.
Posted by TacoNash
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:08 pm to
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Remarkable footage of a single UA T-64BV tank engaging a Russian convoy, destroying a BTR-82A from an ambush position. Though other shots miss, appears that this held up the convoy enough for UA indirect fire to strike it, taking out other armour & leading to a retreat.


Link to twitter video
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:32 pm to
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Remarkable footage of a single UA T-64BV tank engaging a Russian convoy


The positive: Russia losing assets

The negative: a lone tank engaging in an ambush
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:34 pm to
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They were apparently digging trenches in the highly radioactive soil around the ghost forests of Chernobyl.

I read an article about this today. It was written by someone who's been there in the past. The mere act of digging post holes for a fence produces unacceptable radiation. The act of digging and trenching for cover for an army exposes them to lethal doses of radiation. And he said some slept in those bunkers. He also said the world will never know how many Russian soldiers will die as a result of this.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:41 pm to
The Russians were just spraying and praying. That Ukrainian tank is lucky to still be alive, assuming it still is.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:44 pm to
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I read an article about this today. It was written by someone who's been there in the past. The mere act of digging post holes for a fence produces unacceptable radiation. The act of digging and trenching for cover for an army exposes them to lethal doses of radiation. And he said some slept in those bunkers. He also said the world will never know how many Russian soldiers will die as a result of this


Can't wait for the HBO documentary in 2042
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:46 pm to
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Can't wait for the HBO documentary in 2042


Depends on which side wins the upcoming war.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 1:48 pm to
With how cheap, effective and simple things like the javelin and switchblade are, I sure hope our guys are working on something to counter them for our infantry and armor units.
Posted by Lakeboy7
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:18 pm to
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The Russians were just spraying and praying.




Hey man its a technique
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:32 pm to
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With how cheap, effective and simple things like the javelin and switchblade are, I sure hope our guys are working on something to counter them for our infantry and armor units.


Both soft and hard kill active protection systems have been in development since the 80s. Isreal does them best, I think they are primarily hard kill systems. The best solution is having a multilayered protection net that doesn't allow your armor to roll into an ambush.

One of the problems with developing the active protection systems is they have to be fairly specific to the threat in today's world there are more countries building NLAWs and the like so the threats are more varied and thus makes it harder to produce a single system to defeat them all.
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 2:40 pm to
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First of all, frick you for making me go back and look at the pictures but why do you guys just make shite up? I see people on their backs, burned to a crisp, stuffed in drains, intestines hanging out. Have you even seen the pics?

You're "just asking questions", right.





exactly. just asking questions but yet russia releases an article claiming everyone in the world who supports ukraine independence is a nazi and all nazis must be exterminated.

but yea its a false flags.

idiots man.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 3:01 pm to
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Depends on which side wins the upcoming war.



Not afraid of this upcoming war. I'm afraid of the NEXT war.

Russia is going to take a HARD look at itself after this war and make sweeping changes in their military structure.

God help the world if an ultra nationalist Russia actually learns how to fight a modern war.
Posted by Tigeralum2008
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 3:02 pm to
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The positive: Russia losing assets

The negative: a lone tank engaging in an ambush



Served its purpose. They stopped the column and called in an artillery strike on stationary/mobility restricted targets
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 4/5/22 at 3:06 pm to
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With how cheap, effective and simple things like the javelin and switchblade are, I sure hope our guys are working on something to counter them for our infantry and armor units.


Already in place. And the Israelis have a battle-tested system that took out multiple ATGMs during the 2014 thing with Hamas in Gaza.
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