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Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:18 am to
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17393 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:18 am to
Closed Western Stores in Russia, but not Burger King.

Suggestion - OK BK (and all related brands), no more of you in any Americaan bases since you are helping feed our enemy.

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Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:22 am to
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Closed Western Stores in Russia, but not Burger King.


Sorry, but I disagree with this. Closing retail outlets only hurts Russian civilians and does nothing to impact Putin or his cabal.
Posted by Hog on the Hill
AR
Member since Jun 2009
13494 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:29 am to
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Correct me if I’m wrong but it was my understanding that Russia has veto power so can effectively stop any resolution like that from going to the General Assembly in the first place, since a charter change would require all 5 votes of the permanent members of the security council.

It’s been a while since I had to do anything with UN law, but I didn’t think there was any way this could happen. Am I wrong?
The security council does not have veto power in the general assembly. It's just 2/3 vote with no veto option.
Posted by Abstract Queso Dip
Member since Mar 2021
5878 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:30 am to
Welp there are 2 options. Assassinate Putin which is a war crime or place trade restrictions that hurt everyone and are not an act of war.

I believe the Burger King is able to operate because they are likely supplying their own goods and the stores are franchise owned by a Russian.
This post was edited on 4/4/22 at 11:31 am
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28911 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:30 am to
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I mean is there any other argument they can make to even attempt to save face?

They could call it isolated incidents that they deny but that they intend to prosecute if they find out it was their soldiers who did it?

Problem is the crimes happened during Russian control and weren't discovered until the Russians fled. Also there are living witnesses.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:34 am to
@TadeuszGiczan
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Yesterday, RIA Novosti published a lengthy piece titled "What Russia should do with Ukraine", which explains in detail what Russia understands by denazification. It's truly horrific: 1/6 LINK

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The special operation revealed that not only the political leadership in Ukraine is Nazi, but also the majority of the population. All Ukrainians who have taken up arms must be eliminated - because they are responsible for the genocide of the Russian people. 2/6 LINK

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Ukrainians disguise their Nazism by calling it a "desire for independence" and a "European way of development". Ukraine doesn't have a Nazi party, a Führer or racial laws, but because of its flexibility, Ukrainian Nazism is far more dangerous to the world than Hitler's Nazism 3/6 LINK

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Denazification means de-Ukrainianisation. Ukrainians are an artificial anti-Russian construct. They should no longer have a national identity. Denazification of Ukraine also means its inevitable de-Europeanisation. 4/6 LINK

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Ukraine's political elite must be eliminated as it cannot be re-educated. Ordinary Ukrainians must experience all the horrors of war and absorb the experience as a historical lesson and atonement for their guilt. 5/6 LINK

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The liberated and denazified territory of the Ukrainian state should no longer be called Ukraine. Denazification should last at least one generation - 25 years. Then the author goes on to detail exactly what needs to be done: LINK 6/6 LINK
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
35008 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:35 am to
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As Putin approaches his 70th birthday, he is attended to by a brigade of doctors including Yevgeny Selivanov, an oncology surgeon who specialises in thyroid cancer, according to Proyekt, a Russian investigative journalism group.


Hummm....

Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:43 am to
There’s the little problem of rape torture and execution videos circulating as well. As well there are videos/captured audio of these crimes in the planning stage and bragging about committing these crimes.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:45 am to
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There’s the little problem of rape torture and execution videos circulating as well.


Once those hit the net and start circulating.....
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:46 am to
And they will. It’s inevitable.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:47 am to
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Putin, a black belt judoka who enjoys adventure holidays in Siberia’s boreal forest, is also said to have turned to alternative medicine, indulging in a practice of bathing in blood extracted from severed deer antlers.

This post was edited on 4/4/22 at 11:51 am
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:49 am to
I’m starting to notice downvotes on my posts. I’m starting to think my info is unappreciated lol
Posted by Kcrad
Diamondhead
Member since Nov 2010
67796 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:50 am to
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They could call it isolated incidents that they deny but that they intend to prosecute if they find out it was their soldiers who did it?

Problem is the crimes happened during Russian control and weren't discovered until the Russians fled. Also there are living witnesses.


Do you think the UN or The Hague or Russia will hold any of these soldiers accountable for these war crimes? They might try them in absentia, but I would be shocked if Russia handed anybody over.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28911 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:59 am to
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They might try them in absentia, but I would be shocked if Russia handed anybody over.

So would I. But we are starting to hear the explanation in Russia that the genocide is intentional. (See the posts on the previous page.) At a certain point, Europe will have to get involved. The Russians aren't making sideline sitting any easier with this crap.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46575 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 11:59 am to
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I’m starting to notice downvotes on my posts.


You're damn sure going to get them now. First rule of TigerDroppings is never ask about why you're getting downvotes.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 12:06 pm to
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You're damn sure going to get them now. First rule of TigerDroppings is never ask about why you're getting downvotes.

Don't look it in the eye whatever you do.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 12:11 pm to
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Suggestion - OK BK (and all related brands), no more of you in any Americaan bases since you are helping feed our enemy.


BK should be free to operate with assumed great security risk if they want. They’re not feeding the Russian troops, they’re feeding the hungry civilians who didn’t ask for the war.

There’s thousands of fast food franchises in China who’s Holocausting Uighur Muslims. Locations in Saudi Arabia. South Africa. Are you standing up for them too?
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28911 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 12:11 pm to
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sterday, RIA Novosti published a lengthy piece titled "What Russia should do with Ukraine", which explains in detail what Russia understands by denazification.

That is farking sick. If this kind of thinking has any common acceptance, the Russians are a larger threat to the world than I realized.
Posted by LSUCanFAN
In the past
Member since Jan 2009
28100 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 12:12 pm to
Maybe I’ll take a break, last couple days have been hard. Dear friends back in Europe are wanting to talk and I’ve been listening but this isn’t a sustainable way for me to let off steam or anxiety about what’s happening in Ukraine. I’m just glad I’m on nothing but Facebook and this board for social media.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 4/4/22 at 12:13 pm to
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