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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:09 pm to Obtuse1
Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:09 pm to Obtuse1
Poland still working on ways to send the Migs to Ukraine.
Poland is itching for Russia to be put in its place.
Poland is itching for Russia to be put in its place.
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Posted on 3/15/22 at 7:45 pm to WeeWee
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Poland still working on ways to send the Migs to Ukraine.
Poland is itching for Russia to be put in its place.
The internet fricked that. 30 years ago Ukraine would have had the MIGs weeks ago with plausible deniability.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:02 pm to Obtuse1
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Major General Oleg Mityaev confirmed kill by Azov Battalion. a commander of the 150th motorized rifle division.
If confirmed by western sources this will be russian flag officer #4 to be KIA'd.
There has to be either some Ukrainian sympathizers in the russian military leaking out info or some locals are doing a great job of targeting the right vehicle.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:06 pm to upgrayedd
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it's just annoying to see the general attitude that all Russians are bloodthursty murderers and all Ukrainians are stoic Rambos.
The sooner more people look at this conflict in a rational way, the sooner we can see some rational interpretations of the data we're getting.
So I’m sure a lot of folks dismissed your point after reading the first half of this post (and it seems like you push those buttons intentionally, TBH) but I think I understand what you’re saying.
Yes, it is very easy to get sucked into the mindset of always assuming worst intentions from the Russians, while ignoring any legitimate* reasons some of these things may be happening.
*Legitimate feels like an odd word to use under the circumstances, but I’m not sure how else to phrase it. Maybe “pragmatic”?
Anyhow, yes - that does happen. People go overboard sometimes with the assumption that Russia is going out of their way to kill civilians and blow up neighborhoods. But it’s just as easy to assume the Russians waging this war think exactly like us - dismissing the possibility that they might, in fact, place far less value on minimizing collateral damage than western nations.
Generally speaking I think that’s a mistake based on what we know of Putin’s personal history, his domestic actions during this war, the cultural differences between Russia and the west, and Russia’s military history. There’s a lot of middle ground between the extremes of strapping bombs to kids and running around trying to win hearts/minds.
So I think it’s reasonable to suggest that maybe Russia isn’t exactly going out of their way to minimize collateral damage, even if you don’t think that necessarily means they are intentionally targeting hospitals or schools. It’s reasonable to be skeptical of their motives in cases where there might be a logical explanation. You can be wary of giving them the benefit of the doubt without thinking they are all “bloodthirsty murderers.”
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 9:50 pm
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:11 pm to Sooner5030
The Russian military is officer heavy. They don't trust enlisted men and they don't have a professional NCO corps to speak of. Officers have to lead from the front to get anything done and that means a lot of them get killed.
Rob Lee has been posting pictures of Russian casualties. Around half of them are officers.
Rob Lee has been posting pictures of Russian casualties. Around half of them are officers.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:14 pm to Jim Rockford
And keep in mind being able to compensate assets in USD is increasingly attractive to people otherwise being paid in Ruples.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:33 pm to LSUCanFAN
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Don’t remember who I was talking to about this but here the quote
“ Lukashenko says Belarus forces will not join the war:
“I want to emphasize once again that we are not going to get involved in this operation that Russia is conducting in Ukraine. The most important thing, as I tell those of you in the military, is that there is no need for that"
This was from understanding war March 13th update
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The Kremlin may be seeking to take direct control of Belarusian units to deploy them in Ukraine but faces Belarusian resistance. Independent Ukrainian media reported on March 13 that Russian commanders are taking control of Belarusian units to suppress Belarusian soldiers’ efforts to resist going to war in Ukraine and reported “riots” in some Brest-based units.[6] ISW cannot independently confirm these reports through other sources at this time; if confirmed, the reports support ISW’s previous assessment that the Kremlin seeks to bring Belarus into the war but faces resistance from both Belarusian soldiers and Belarusian President Lukashenko. The Ukrainian General Staff additionally reported that Russian forces established a base for repairing and restoring military equipment in Kulichikha, Belarus, (17 km from the border) on March 13.[7]
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:36 pm to StormyMcMan
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Ken Dilanian
@KenDilanianNBC
Scoop: The Biden administration is considering providing Ukraine with U.S.-made killer drones — cutting edge guided missiles that could accurately target Russian tanks and artillery positions from miles away, two Congressional officials said.
NBC News
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There are two variants of the weapon, the Switchblade 300 and 600, that have been sold to U.S. Special Operations Command by manufacturer AeroVironment, based in suburban Washington, DC. The 300 is designed for pinpoint strikes on personnel, and the larger 600 is meant to destroy tanks and other armored vehicles.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 8:52 pm to Sooner5030
No bueno
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:00 pm to DabosDynasty
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Details remain blurry but reports suggest: Ukraine launched its first major offensive of the war earlier in the day on all fronts (south, north, and east). Reports indicate that Russian forces have been pushed back, but we are waiting for more confirmation tomorrow.
Looks like Ukraine is tired of playing defense and is launching an all counter attack. This could get interesting.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:17 pm to Dr RC
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Our intelligence knew it was going to happen, said it was going to happen, and then it happened. The fact that a lot of people were wrong to think Putin was bluffing doesn't make it a sneak attack.
Putin was bluffing. He said he wasn’t going to attack. This was all drills. That was the bluff. And when he invaded another country in an attempt to sack its capital and install a new government without any advanced declaration of war that was the sneak attack.
If it’s not a sneak attack what do you call it? I guess you could call it a special military operation.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:18 pm to theGarnetWay
There are very few things worse than stepping on a lego,
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:25 pm to ned nederlander
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If it’s not a sneak attack what do you call it?
A major miscalculation.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:30 pm to WeeWee
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:38 pm to Mr Happy
Any idea of the possible space-age tech the US is using to help the Ukrainians maintain its air defence?
Posted on 3/15/22 at 9:52 pm to swervr
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Any idea of the possible space-age tech the US is using to help the Ukrainians maintain its air defence?
Probably a combination of AWACS, Growlers, and JSTAR
There’s been whispers of space borne radar surveillance but I dunno
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:01 pm to Tigeralum2008
One of the theories on why Russia has mainly carried this out with 30-40 yr old equipment is because they knew the US would be assisting Ukraine with air/drone operations. They expect major losses because of this and have held their new equipment back hoping to be able to pull this off without mobilizing it. Hence for all the old arse T72s they are using.
This post was edited on 3/15/22 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:07 pm to GREENHEAD22
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They expect major losses because of this and have held their new equipment back hoping to be able to pull this off without mobilizing it.
The hidden playbook. It’s a very optimist view, from the Russian perspective.
Posted on 3/15/22 at 10:22 pm to WeeWee
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A major miscalculation
Throwing a first punch that isn’t a clear knockout usually is.
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