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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:42 am to
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:42 am to
Haven't seen Adam book any flights to the region to join in the fight.

As usual, these wars are for someone else's kid to fight, not our glorious politicians.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:43 am to
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I'm curious how this looks if/when the Russians take Kiev.
The Troubles x 100
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:43 am to
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I honestly don't know if at this point they will "take" Kyiv as much as they will surround it, cut it off, and continue shelling it whilst letting the people simmer for a bit. That would help their leverage in negotiations at least a bit.

Counter to that, though, is that the Russians have started allowing some humanitarian evacuations over the past 24 hours from cities, Kyiv included. We'll see, I guess.

Are they still using it as their central command or have they started making contingencies?
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77539 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:43 am to
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Adam Kinzinger
Wouldn’t fight even if there was a war.

War is simply a concept where the young are forced to fight and kill people they do not know or hate, at the behest of the old who will not fight and are the ones who hate the other group.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:44 am to
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As usual, these wars are for someone else's kid to fight, not our glorious politicians.
Yep.
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22828 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:45 am to
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As usual, these wars are for someone else's kid to fight, not our glorious politicians.

The Cheney’s were a prime example of this during OIF and OEF.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
139063 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:45 am to
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The Troubles x 100

This why I never thought Putin would invade. What is he going to do if he takes over the country? The amount of resources he'd have to commit just to maintain power there would be astronomical. Hell, we couldn't maintain power/order in a country half that size
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:47 am to


Adam should meet him at an Arkansas sonic and show him what a real patriot is. See what happens.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
34882 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:47 am to
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Global Food Crisis Grows

Food prices in 6 months will be unrecognisable



[x] Pestilence
[x] War
[ ] Famine
[ ] Death
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:48 am to
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As usual, these wars are for someone else's kid to fight, not our glorious politicians.


Yep.

frick them all.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139063 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:48 am to
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Wouldn’t fight even if there was a war.

War is simply a concept where the young are forced to fight and kill people they do not know or hate, at the behest of the old who will not fight and are the ones who hate the other group.

Adam is a pilot. Maybe he should fly those migs to Ukraine
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:48 am to
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Haven't seen Adam book any flights to the region to join in the fight.

As usual, these wars are for someone else's kid to fight, not our glorious politicians.


Exactly. Hey Adam, how about you get in the fricking trenches or send your fricking kids over there to do it? Oh you’re not going to do that.

I guarantee Adam Kinzinger looks at Bryce Mitchell as some stupid illiterate redneck whose life means nothing that is perfect cannon fodder for the Russians and is pissed off he refuses to be used as such. Adam Kinzinger is an evil, evil man who would intentionally get your kids killed if it meant he got a few grand in bribes from the military industrial complex.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:52 am
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40245 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:49 am to
My husband uses it when he can get it but pretty sure it's been in short supply here .. I try to not ask too many questions.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:49 am to
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This why I never thought Putin would invade. What is he going to do if he takes over the country?


I thought he was just making a play for the Donbas and have Ukraine officially say Crimea is Russian territory. For the same reasons.

Right until the tanks started coming from the Belarus border.

Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:49 am to
Doesn't Kitzinger support escalating the conflict by establishing a no-fly zone? It is all a game to people like him.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:51 am to
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The Cheney’s were a prime example of this during OIF and OEF.


Oh yeah, you know that Liz is foaming at the mouth over the thought of WWIII, especially since she doesn’t stand a chance in hell of getting re-elected, so nows the time that’s got to happen for her to get a bribe out for helping starting it.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:53 am to
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Doesn't Kitzinger support escalating the conflict by establishing a no-fly zone? It is all a game to people like him.


Yes. In Congress only Lindsey Graham has been worse than this war mongering piece of shite coward. He is seriously pissed at Bryce Mitchell for not being perfect cannon fodder for him.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38420 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:57 am to
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This why I never thought Putin would invade. What is he going to do if he takes over the country? The amount of resources he'd have to commit just to maintain power there would be astronomical.
I've typed out and deleted three responses already because I can't put into words my shock at the scale of miscalculation.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:58 am to
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I thought he was just making a play for the Donbas and have Ukraine officially say Crimea is Russian territory. For the same reasons.

I honestly think that the one thing we've kind of gotten wrong about Putin so far is that he "underestimated the resolve of the Ukranians".

I think he knew, to some extent, that it would be a fight, and that Ukraine wouldn't roll over for any of the demands. So, he decided to lay siege to cities across the country in effort to gain leverage through relatively limited destruction.

Now, the battle-readiness of his army seems to have dickered him, and his blitz hasn't been nearly as effective as he expected. That's particularly true when he is trying, or at least was trying, not to completely level the country.

I believe if he thought he could get the Donbas with limited military engagement he would have tried it. He knew Zelensky, and by extension the Ukrainian people, weren't going to lay down.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
19183 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 11:01 am to
I’ve seen some suspect Tucker clips regarding the conflict but Kinzinger also seems kind of up his own arse
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