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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:30 am to
Posted by jimbeam
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:30 am to
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Somehow, someway, I think the farmers around me saw this coming a while ago. They've all used chicken shite.
Urea correlated to NG. But yes urea has skyrocketed before crop prices did. Kicking myself for not making that play.

Also, chicken litter is a limited resource. Not everyone around here (S La) can get it.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:31 am to
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horde food

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Hungary

Of course.
Posted by TacoNash
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:31 am to
NEW: Russia still has 90 percent of combat power in Ukraine still available for use: senior U.S. defense official.

U.S. officials said Tues that 5 percent of Russian equipment had been rendered inoperable or destroyed. Russia deployed up to 190,000 troops to Ukraine's border.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:31 am to
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With the reduction in grain exports from some of these nations, the possibility of famine really doesn’t bode well for the possibility of warfare expanding around the globe, especially in some of the more “third world” countries.


Thats my fear, along with people generally starving, as well.

Being short on BTUs is painful but liveable, being short on kcals aint.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:31 am to
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This is 0% good.

I know the world seems scary right now, but if we lose petrodollar hegemony, things are going to get a lot worse.

Best case scenario is a peace deal between Ukraine/Russia ASAP.

Unfortunately, the Saudis know that Joe doesn't want to promote American production, so he's painted himself into a corner. That's why they're trying to force him into doing shite like helping them with the Yemen war in exchange for oil.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:32 am to
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Also, chicken litter is a limited resource. Not everyone around here (S La) can get it.


Shame. I'm looking at a huge pile of it across the road right now. They'll spread it as soon as it dries off enough from last night's rain.
Posted by When in Rome
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:33 am to
Here's an interesting tweet thread:

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Major General (just retired!) Mick Ryan
@WarintheFuture


Thirteen days since the Russian invasion of Ukraine began. Today I examine reports that Russia has committed 100% of forces assembled before the invasion, including what it means for their campaign. War, among other things, is also about maths.

As always, a shout out to those reporting on the Russian invasion. This includes @KofmanMichael @maxseddon @IAPonomarenko @RALee85 @shashj @DanLamothe @ikhurshudyan @IanPannell @TheStudyofWar @siobhan_ogrady among others. Please follow them.

There is a relationship between resourcing military operations (personnel numbers) and campaign design.

Campaign design is an important component of military professionalism. Through good campaign design, commanders and their staffs’ sequence and orchestrate tactical goals and actions. A vital aspect of campaign design is the prioritization for allocation of forces, logistic support, intelligence, transport, and inter-service collaboration. At least in theory, campaigns should be largely joint rather than service oriented. The Russian Campaign in Ukraine should (in theory) also act as the interface between the tactical battle and activities on the ground, and the achievement of Russian strategic end states.

The Russians, who have previously demonstrated high competence in campaigning and operational art, seem to have forgotten many of its fundamentals in their design and execution of the invasion of Ukraine. Force size and commitment is just part of the evidence for this. Today, in his daily Pentagon briefing highlights, @DanLamothe reports there has been “no appreciable change in combat power Russia has put in the fight. They are still at nearly 100 percent of the combat forces they had arrayed at the border before the invasion.”

Most sources agree Russia arrayed up to 190K troops around Ukraine before the invasion. Open sources note that the size of the Russian ground forces sits at 340K (incl paratroops). Therefore, Russian committed around 55% of their total ground forces to Ukraine. In comparison, at the peak in November 2007, the US Army and US Marines had 170K soldiers and marines in Iraq. US Army total force size was 519K and US Marines was 184K. This represents around 24% of their total regular force deployed in Iraq. sgp.fas.org/crs/natsec/R40. The size of the Russian deployment means that it has taken a major strategic risk in deploying such a significant percentage of its ground combat power on a single mission. It also means that it probably did not expect to use it. This can be traced back to Putin’s flawed strategy, which assumed that the Ukrainians would not resist. And if they did resist, they could be quickly overwhelmed by Russian forces, shattering the myth of Vladimir Putin as a strategic genius.

Let’s be clear: Once this needlessly inevitable war with Ukraine starts, it will ultimately redound to Russia’s great strategic disadvantage.
The Hill

Committing this percentage of combat power as its first echelon in on a single mission presents a significant strategic challenge for Russia. Responsible military institutions always plan for worst case. If you deploy it, you need to assume you might use it. In military operations, casualties & fatigue, as well as equipment losses, wear & tear, will decrease force strength over time. Rotation of forces is necessary for any missions of even medium length duration. Humans can only fight for so long before becoming non-effective.

Russia also had to adapt its campaign design. The first days saw attempts to use light forces & rapid strikes to achieve objectives, including the capture of Kyiv. It has now changed this to a methodical campaign of attrition. These are logistically expense and complex. At the same time, the Ukrainians have the advantages of operating on interior lines. This enables the more rapid redeployment and reinforcement of forces. It also simplifies command and control as well as logistic.

The Strategy of Exterior and Interior Lines in the Light of Modern War
(1921). The Strategy of Exterior and Interior Lines in the Light of Modern War. Royal United Services Institution. Journal: Vol. 66, No. 461, pp. 101-113.
Taylor and Francis Online

The Russians are operating on exterior lines. They seek to advance on multiple axes from different parts of Belarus, Crimea, Russia & Donbas. This is complex, and in war, the more complex a plan is, the more likely it is to run into problems. We have seen these manifest. Russia now finds itself in a situation where it has not achieved key military objectives in the north, east & south. It has concurrent offensives in different, disconnected parts of Ukraine. It has committed all the military forces it had for Ukraine on these missions. There is little prospect of a quick resolution, so fighting we continue for at least weeks and perhaps months. All of this time will see the Russians and Ukrainians lose more personnel and equipment, which on both sides will be hard to replace.
20/25 The Russians will need to find solutions to this ‘100% committed’ problem soon. There are three key problems that they must solve.

First, they need a theatre level reserve in the north if they are to complete encirclement of Kyiv & follow-on attack on the city. The size of Russian forces currently in the north is likely to be insufficient for both tasks. They may have to pause other ops to do so. Second, the Russians more broadly may need to start planning for more reinforcements and rotating forces. Both humans and equipment need breaks in combat to retain effectiveness over the medium and longer term. And Russian losses have probably been higher than anticipated. Third, Russia must look at other military commitments both within & beyond its borders. Does the importance of their strategic goals in Ukraine justify stripping more Russian troops from other missions and garrisons to reinforce a combat weary and degraded force in Ukraine? The Russian campaign design for Ukraine is flawed. It sets too many operational objectives for a Russian ground force that is not large enough to secure them. They will seek other methods – more airpower, artillery, rockets – to prevent a stalemate setting in. That ends update 13. Russian campaign design, and their ability to achieve campaign outcomes on the ground, has been found wanting. With all their theatre forces committed, the Russians will become increasingly desperate to achieve their aims.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:33 am to
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With the reduction in grain exports from some of these nations, the possibility of famine really doesn’t bode well for the possibility of warfare expanding around the globe, especially in some of the more “third world” countries.


This on top of the disrupted supply lines due to Covid. Something like 400,000 starved to death in Myanmar alone over the disruption of the supply lines. This is really the unsung story of Covid and something journalists seemingly aren’t curious about is how many people did the disruption of the supply lines kill? We’re eventually going to find out, and I’m willing to bet that killed more people than Covid itself did… and this is about to make things a whole lot worse.
This post was edited on 3/9/22 at 10:35 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:33 am to
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U.S. officials said Tues that 5 percent of Russian equipment had been rendered inoperable or destroyed. Russia deployed up to 190,000 troops to Ukraine's border.


Does this jive with the numbers we've been given so far?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:34 am to
@JackDetsch
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Russia's military has made progress in Ukraine's north and south over the past 24 hours, but advance remains "uneven": senior U.S. defense official

U.S. has seen progress in advances on Mikolaev, over 100k from Odessa, and to just outside of Kharkiv.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:34 am to
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@WarintheFuture


Elite follow during this war.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:35 am to
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Does this jive with the numbers we've been given so far?

The same officials also said today that the Russians have lost "hundreds" of vehicles and equipment. That would be in line with what the Ukranians are saying. Maybe not the same number of 100s but at least in the ballpark.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:37 am to
It is also interesting to see that the Ukrainians have evidently started to salvage the vehicles and equipment from the field, bring it to secure areas, and either repair them or use them for parts.

We weren't seeing much of that before. It was either drive the ones that were operable off or blow them up.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:38 am to
I'm curious how this looks if/when the Russians take Kiev.
Posted by Hangit
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:39 am to
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Hungary has already started, and I’m also hearing rumors China has as well.


The Ukraine is holding on to wheat and oats. Indonesia is keeping their palm oil. Wholesale prices are climbing.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:39 am to


What a fricking piece of shite Adam Kinzinger is. He and Lindsey Graham are actively trying to start World War III, and he’s pissed off someone doesn’t want to die because Adam wants to line his buddies pockets in the military industrial complex and get bribes from them. Such a piece of filth and should be kicked the frick out of office.
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:40 am to
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If countries start to horde food, we are in big trouble.
I’m sure the Biden admin would frick it up but is the US not a major food producer? Feel like we have enough grain and beef to survive if that’s redirected internally
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75735 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:41 am to
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I'm curious how this looks if/when the Russians take Kiev.

I honestly don't know if at this point they will "take" Kyiv as much as they will surround it, cut it off, and continue shelling it whilst letting the people simmer for a bit. That would help their leverage in negotiations at least a bit.

Counter to that, though, is that the Russians have started allowing some humanitarian evacuations over the past 24 hours from cities, Kyiv included. We'll see, I guess.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
77539 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:41 am to
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I’m sure the Biden admin would frick it up but is the US not a major food producer? Feel like we have enough grain and beef to survive if that’s redirected internally
I was talking more on the global stage, not so much pertaining to America itself.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 3/9/22 at 10:42 am to
The US can 100% feed itself
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