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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:05 am to
Posted by El Segundo Guy
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:05 am to
Europe has nothing to contribute except IOUs and virtue signals. The Ukrainians need bodies, not meaningless social media posts about solidarity. Outside of bodies, guns and money won't stop Russia; the past 3 years has shown that.
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:19 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:28 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:29 am to
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:34 am to
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:41 am to
Now do support for more aid
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:47 am to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 11:57 am to
Firing squad except Putin is a Christian and wouldn't do that
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Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:00 pm to
UK Defence Secretary to travel to US to discuss 'parameters' of European peace plan in Ukraine , — Financial Times

??Gili will arrive in Washington on March 5 to present to the Trump administration the proposals of Europe and Britain for resolving the conflict in Ukraine, developed at the summit in London last weekend.

(let me guess: give us security guarantees and we will conquer Moscow - why else would they chose another stupid picture with a clown in camo...)"

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Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:02 pm to
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Did the other countries vote on it?


Yeah, they voted to remove voting rights from a member country.

How democratic of them.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:03 pm to
Trump is painting himself and the GOP into an indefensible corner. As I said last week, every time he speaks into a microphone, he costs the GOP 5,000 votes in 2026. That may be understated due to what he is saying into those microphones now.

Cutting all aid to Ukraine is a huge boost to our principle enemy and threat for the last eight decades, but it can be justified to the mouth breathers as saving tax dollars.

However, suspending the Pentagon's cyber offensive against Russia doesn't save any tax dollars. Nor does cutting all intelligence feed to the Ukrainians. Doesn't save a nickle. How will the White House traitor justify either of these orders? When is Trump going to start dropping the pretense and start talking about Putin as America's misunderstood friend?
Posted by Hog Zealot
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:06 pm to
I’d pay big money to have had a lens to GOPtigers living room last night during the speech. He knows Mike Johnson!!!! He will show Trump how to win in Ukraine.

RIP GOPtiger. Gone too soon.

Posted by LSUPilot07
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:19 pm to
Zelensky needs to sign that mineral deal and he needs to do it now. Stay in Ukraine and let Kellogg be your intermediary between he and Trump. Europe is talking a big game but look at Germany. They can’t send anything because they don’t have shite left, same with the UK. There is no other option left for him and he knows it from the statement he sent out after the White House blowup. I hate Putin and hope he dies a slow death one day for what he did to Ukraine but this needs to end, even if it’s just a ceasefire.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:19 pm to
Isn't that the guy who was convicted of giving away state secrets because he couldn't keep his dick in his pants?
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:25 pm to
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Europe Confronts the Rise of the Brutal American The Atlantic - no paywall

Good article by one of the best writers on Eastern Europe and Russia. She makes a great point:

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The Oval Office meeting, the subsequent announcements, and the speech to Congress also clarified something else: Trump, Vance, and many of the people around them now fully inhabit an alternative reality, one composed entirely of things they see and hear in the ether. Part of the Oval Office altercation was provoked by Zelensky’s insistence on telling the truth, as the full video clearly shows.
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But Trump and Vance are not interested in the truth about the war in Ukraine. Trump seemed angered by the suggestion that Putin might break deals with him, refused to acknowledge that it’s happened before... Vance—who had refused to meet Zelensky when offered the opportunity before the election last year—told the Ukrainian president that he didn’t need to go to Ukraine to understand what is going on in his country: “I’ve actually watched and seen the stories,” he said, meaning that he has seen the “stories” curated for him by the people he follows on YouTube or X.
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this alternative reality is directly and profoundly shaped by Russian propaganda
When your life is built on a series of huge lies, you are going to get angry when confronted with the truth. Any criminal lawyer, psychologist or police officer depends on this tell every day. I was told many years ago that when you get angry about something, you're wrong about something. It's your job to figure it out. But knowing this, anger becomes your friend as you know when you're wrong about something.

But with an IV feed of Russian bots, Trump and Vance stay angry all the time and worse, have no perspective to understand the truth. Nor incentive, being the cowards they are.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:33 pm to
In WWII Stalin called on all Russians to stop the Nazi invaders. Ordinary Russians fought, were maimed, and died answering the call. Still today the ordinary Russian receives respect and admiration for thd sacrifices they made and the defeat of the Nazis.

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· Follow ???? Ukrainian parliament proposes to put all guys on military registrations since the age of 14.

To the last Ukranian!


With the hated Russians occupying a large part of their nation and pouring more missiles, weapons and men into Ukraine to take more of the land why would Ukrainians not fight just as hard as the Russians did in WWII.

After all millions must have relatives that were starved to death by Russia. Millions do not want to be Russians. Why should they not fight?
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:39 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:42 pm to
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Zelensky needs to sign that mineral deal and he needs to do it now.
What does that get him? Nothing.

He arrived in the White House Friday after weeks of negotiation, ready to sign. But needed the security guarantee. As we all know now, there was no security guarantee and was never going to be one. Trump lied.

What makes you think this changes by signing it now? Trump is still lying. It's not a mineral deal, it's a mineral robbery.

If I were Zelensky, I would demand US armaments in return for partial mineral rights deals. $250 million in arms of Ukraine's choice and paid for by Ukraine - nothing free - for $250 million worth of contracted mineral rights. After delivery, another $250 million swap. And another after that. Everyone gets what they want on the time schedule they want.

But that's not going to happen because Putin will tell Trump no. We all know that.
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:47 pm to
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How did you like Trump's speech last night? I bet it chapped your arse.




It was hilarious. What an idiot he is!
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 3/5/25 at 12:55 pm to
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It was hilarious. What an idiot he is!


Yes, what an idiotic speech. Getting 260 top Democrats to expose themselves on national television all at one time as total fools could only be done by an idiot right?
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