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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:12 pm to
Posted by Camp Randall
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:12 pm to
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The Kremlin has launched an information operation that seeks to create the false impression that the Russian economy is performing well despite numerous continued indicators of macroeconomic distress.



Where?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/22/25 at 10:35 pm to
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He was fooled and almost all of us were fooled. People largely didn’t know that Fauci was the biggest mass murderer since Mao when Trump left office. Yeah, I’m pissed he gave him a medal, but he can make up for that by giving him a noose.

Within the last year... just because you apparently did not swallow the last dose.

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 1/22/25 at 11:34 pm to
This story is from The People’s Voice, a fake news website. It misrepresents a quote about extraditing cybercriminals, NOT Fauci.

right there under the embed...
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 12:35 am to
Fox News interviews Mike Pompeo regarding Ukraine and Trump's approach.

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6367522662112
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:01 am to
Trumps greatest gift is his ability to make people love him not for what he is, but for what they want him to be.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:09 am to
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The Office of Fossil Energy and Carbon Management (FECM) is directed to resume consideration of pending applications to export American liquefied natural gas (LNG) to countries without a free trade agreement (FTA) with the United States in accordance with the Natural Gas Act.
Irony aside, with this move Trump is taking down a Biden-era barrier to supplying LNG to Europe.

Here's a list of countries that have FTA's with the US:

Australia
Bahrain
Canada
Chile
Colombia
Costa Rica
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Guatemala
Honduras
Israel
Jordan
Korea
Mexico
Morocco
Nicaragua
Oman
Panama
Peru
Singapore

The significance of this list is who is not on it - the Europeans.

US Free Trade Agreements are designed to prevent tariffs and other impediments to trade with the US. But tariff-free trade is definitely not in the European tradition. The amount of EU trade protection laws is vast, reflecting the fact that historically, tariffs have been the only area of complete agreement between the political left and right. There are entire industries dedicated to helping their clients navigate the (quite literally) millions of rules.

So the Biden administration intended to use the leverage of US LNG exports to the EU to break down this trade barrier regime. We won't go into detail as to why this was a bad idea, but as CitizenK has pointed out, it clearly was on multiple levels. It's even questionable that the EU could roll back some of these trade laws if they wanted to. They would be fighting both sides of the aisle so to speak. Just ask the present trade negotiators of the UK...

Trump has taken the view that we all should live so long as to see US-EU trade negotiations result in any significant result. More importantly, this will put us back on track to permanently replace Russian gas with US/Canadian gas in Europe. The desired agreement will be to guarantee these imports against later competion from pipeline gas originating in the Middle East, North Africa, Ukraine or (under a new regime) Russia. Minimum percentages of gas consumed by the EU to have US origin.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:15 am to
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The pause is for new export permits which are required for non FTA nations. No new terminal will get funding without one and per nation it intends to export to.

That being said, we still have to complete those terminals under construction. This should happen in 2028, with some projects already having to sell out due lack of funds to compete. One of those was Driftwood LNG just south of Sulphur, LA on the former Global Marine facility with rolled pipe onto spools for ease of laying in the Gulf of Mexico. There already are no amount of export facilities which can rival the Port of Lake Charles and this would solidify that which already has 4 export terminals under its jurisdiction including the big boy, Cheniere Sabine Pass.
As friends in Lake Charles tell me, with the LNG construction everything changes everyday. But with guaranteed markets in Europe, those days will be over. And give us confidence in projections such as this:

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 2:58 am to
Looking into the future, the only guarantee against further Russian aggression post-Putin will be by limiting their petroleum exports. Thus controlling their revenue. Severely controlling. By substituting non-Russian oil and gas into the European markets this can be done. Sanctions on India and China can clean up the remaining revenue, but the European market will make or break the Russian economy.

I tend to agree with Mornganthau's plan in this application, but that would just lead to another Putin. So keeping a firm hand on the Russian economy by this method, and adjusting the valve if they get froggy, will be best going forward.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 4:28 am to
Pretty sure that I have said enough to cover all of this several times.

The permit to export to non FTA nations is the block to funding any LNG terminal. Cheniere received this in 2012 after applying for it in 2010. The only export terminal before then was in Alaska and idle. It exported the gas produced near Anchorage before that ran out and was idled. Most of the terminals under construction received their export permits under Biden otherwise wouldn't be under construction.

Trump's lift of the ban has zero effect on terminals under construction, including the one in Mexico which needed a permit due its US natural gas.

As far as the idea that Europe needs cheap Russian gas (about 1/3 of what was burned there pre 2022), I give you South Korea and Japan with 100% imported as LNG who seemed to do well importing from the USA Gulf Coast via the Panama Canal and more costly than to Europe.
This post was edited on 1/23/25 at 4:32 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 1/23/25 at 6:09 am to
Reuters:

Exclusive: Putin growing concerned by Russia’s economy, as Trump pushes for Ukraine deal

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MOSCOW, Jan 23 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin has grown increasingly concerned about distortions in Russia's wartime economy, just as Donald Trump pushes for an end to the Ukraine conflict, five sources with knowledge of the situation told Reuters.

Russia's economy, driven by exports of oil, gas and minerals, grew robustly over the past two years despite multiple rounds of Western sanctions imposed after its invasion of Ukraine in 2022.

But domestic activity has become strained in recent months by labour shortages and high interest rates introduced to tackle inflation, which has accelerated under record military spending.

That has contributed to the view within a section of the Russian elite that a negotiated settlement to the war is desirable, according to two of the sources familiar with thinking in the Kremlin.

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Russia's $2.2 trillion economy had until recently shown remarkable endurance during the war, and Putin has praised top economic officials and business for circumventing the most stringent Western sanctions ever imposed on a major economy.

After contracting in 2022, Russia's GDP grew faster than the European Union and the United States in 2023 and 2024. This year, however, the central bank and the International Monetary Fund forecast sub-1.5% growth, although the government projects a slightly rosier outlook.

Inflation has edged toward double digits despite the central bank hiking the benchmark interest rate to 21% in October.

"There are some issues here, namely inflation, a certain overheating of the economy," Putin said in an annual news conference on Dec. 19. "The government and the central bank are already tasked with bringing the tempo down," he said.


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Putin believes key war goals have already been met, including control of land that connects mainland Russia to Crimea, and weakening Ukraine's military, said one of the sources familiar with thinking in the Kremlin.

The Russian president also recognizes the strain the war is putting on the economy, the source said, citing "really big problems" such as the impact of the high interest rate on non-military businesses and industry.

Russia has hiked defence spending to a post-Soviet high of 6.3% of GDP this year, accounting for a third of budget expenditure. The spending has been inflationary. Along with wartime labour shortages, it has driven wages higher.
On top of that, the government has sought higher tax revenues to reduce the fiscal deficit.

Vyugin, the former deputy governor, said sustained high rates would put pressure on the balance sheets of businesses and banks.
quote:

Putin's frustration was evident at a Kremlin meeting with business leaders the evening of Dec. 16, where he scolded top economic officials, according to two of the sources, who have knowledge of discussions about the economy in the Kremlin and government.

One of the sources, who was briefed after the meeting, was told Putin was visibly displeased after hearing private investment was being cut because of the cost of credit.


Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 6:17 am to
Yet another video of Russians proudly videoing themselves executing Ukrainian POWs. This war continues to be a fight between civilization and primitive barbarism. This is what our resident Putin bros are defending:

LINK
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4328 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 6:24 am to
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As far as the idea that Europe needs cheap Russian gas (about 1/3 of what was burned there pre 2022), I give you South Korea and Japan with 100% imported as LNG who seemed to do well importing from the USA Gulf Coast via the Panama Canal and more costly than to Europe.
Yes, Japan and South Korea have been importing LNG from Ras Laffan (Qatar) for many years now. I don't know what effect the US Gulf LNG has had, but 20 years ago there was a conveyor belt of LNG tankers running back and forth on a tight schedule.

In this case, supply and logistics are solid. The problem will be politics as we cannot separate energy supply from strategic considerations. If the Europeans move towards making a permanent energy agreement with all suppliers, the US needs to be a big part of it. We will demonstrate that we are the most secure and European-friendly source of LNG, a position that Russia used to have. Maybe we can hire Merkel as a lobbyist... No?
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41304 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 6:25 am to
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Yet another video of Russians proudly videoing themselves executing Ukrainian POWs. This war continues to be a fight between civilization and primitive barbarism. This is what our resident Putin bros are defending:


Both sides are factually on video doing this. Who gives a shite
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 6:32 am to
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Both sides are factually on video doing this.


Where are the videos of Ukraine executing Russian POWs?

quote:

Who gives a shi


People who have a shred of decency.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4328 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 6:39 am to
from the Reuters article:

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Reuters has previously reported that Putin is ready to discuss ceasefire options with Trump but that Russia's territorial gains in Ukraine must be accepted and that Ukraine must drop its bid to join the U.S-led NATO military alliance.

Again, the primary issue in any negotiation will be the sanctions. If Trump wishes to ease these limits on Russian revenue, all we can expect will be a pause in the fighting. If the sanctions are kept in place and enforced, Putin will not be able to restart the war. And eventually the Ukrainians will take back their land and obtain membership in NATO. When the Ukrainian version of the Little Green Men reappear, the Russians will not have the ability to stop them. And NATO will look the other way just as they did when the Little Green Men first appeared in 2014.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41304 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 6:47 am to
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People who have a shred of decency.


You’re a neocon with an outdated political identity that would cry with joy if every Russian was killed. What would you know about decency?

Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 7:16 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
23 January 2025

On 17 January 2025, Russian President Vladimir Putin and Iranian President Massoud Pezeshkian signed a new 20-year Comprehensive Strategic Partnership Agreement.

Russia and Iran's partnership has almost certainly been driven by mutual security and economic interests, with both states growing closer since Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022. Russia has remained reliant on Iranian military support as the war in Ukraine has continued. However, a level of mistrust remains and tensions in the relationship will highly likely present obstacles to the expansion of their cooperation.

The agreement is part of a wider framework of cooperation between the two states across various sectors, almost certainly representing a commitment to strengthen bilateral ties. It covers cooperation across defence and security, economy, trade, transportation, energy, technology, information and cyberspace security. In contrast to Russia's agreements with the Democratic People's Republic of Korea and Belarus, the Russia-Iran agreement does not include a mutual defence clause.

The agreement highly likely provides a legal framework for further Iranian-Russian cooperation, formalising existing and future collaboration efforts. However, it is unlikely to represent any significant uplift to the partnership or materially expand the scope of their current cooperation.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 7:18 am to
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Again, the primary issue in any negotiation will be the sanctions


I agree 100%.

I'd also like to thank both you and Citizenk for your info on the LNG industry.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 7:24 am to
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It doesn't make much sense that Trump would exaggerate numbers for negotiation purposes. Do you not think that Putin knows exactly how many casualties Russia has incurred?


Sure it does. Russia has a huge propaganda campaign but their news isn't on total lockdown either. Russians can see what people like Trump say, and when Trump says that those who might not trust the Russian government might believe him. The audience isn't Putin or anyone who actually knows the numbers, its everyone else in Russia who doesn't. Social pressure from within is still pressure.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 1/23/25 at 7:27 am to
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Russians lose many in meat waves that is just the nature of their attacks.



John Hellin reposted a good thread the other day about why people who say they are using "meat waves" are just proving they don't know shite about military tactics. Even the North Koreans are using light infantry tactics, its just that the nature of light infantry advances is that you're going to lose men.

Smooth brains think an officer just points in a direction and the Russians run towards it
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