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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:20 pm to
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:20 pm to
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“If Ukrainians have asked the whole world to be all in for democracy, we need them to be all in for democracy.”


I agree with this. Never understood why the 18-26 age group weren't the first drafted.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21177 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 6:21 pm to
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Just like Bunk this Barron dude and others love to cite far leftists

Because that's who they are. At least lima owns it.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 7:39 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:08 pm to
https://www.sevimdagdelen.de/will-nato-encircle-china-next-nato-charts-a-new-course/

Will NATO encircle China next?!? And other hot takes sponsored by the CCP that John Barron and Lima support
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 8:51 pm to
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I agree with this. Never understood why the 18-26 age group weren't the first drafted.


Demographic collapse. Ukrainian males aged 18-26 mostly have not married and fathered children, yet.

Without children, there is no Ukraine in the future.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

I agree with this. Never understood why the 18-26 age group weren't the first drafted.


Prime breeding age to keep population up for the future. Meanwhile Russia's is collapsing.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1944 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:18 pm to
I get that but, with a manpower shortage I don't see how they have a choice.
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 9:26 pm to
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I get that but, with a manpower shortage I don't see how they have a choice.


It's calculated tightrope
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3959 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 10:21 pm to
Russia has sent its "undesirables" from the East to do the dying, as far as younger males (and this gets rid of potential future insurgents, also)... then it concentrated on the older poor males... it's trying to avoid the remaining young men of Moscow and St. Petersberg if it can help it.

So, if Ukraine sacrifices its young males while Russia manages to preserve some... Russia wins, in a sense.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/12/25 at 11:58 pm to
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 2:20 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4595 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 4:56 am to
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Just like Bunk this Barron dude and others love to cite far leftists, whether North American or European.

Hmmmm

As soon as there's a Ukrainian offensive, like clockwork the Russian trolls go into overdrive. From the recent Barron/Bunk/Lima post count, the Ukrainians must be kicking serious arse... Yet again.

quote:

GeoConfirmed UKR - Investigation

When Ukraine undertakes offensive operations, Russia attempts to manipulate/influence the information environment. For nearly three years, we have been monitoring the war in Ukraine, and another notable trend has emerged: whenever Ukraine initiates an offensive operation, social media becomes inundated with claims of significant Ukrainian losses.

However, we have observed that these claims often consist of disinformation: they may reference outdated losses, incidents from different regions, or even Russian losses reported as Ukrainian losses... (I kid you not). This misinformation is often compiled in a way that suggests Ukraine's offensive efforts are failing, thereby attempting to sway public perception.

LINK
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5724 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 6:44 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
13 January 2025
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Russia launched approximately 1,700 One Way Attack Uncrewed Aerial Systems (OWA UAS) of varying types into Ukraine in the month of December 2024, a decrease from November's total of 2,300. This was the first time that a decline in numbers has been seen since March to April 2024. It is likely that weather factors impacted operations early in the month, possibly evidenced through several nights of waves greater than 100 OWA UAS that followed periods of particularly low or no activity.

The Ukrainian Air Force reported that 53% of Russian OWA UAS were shot down, while the remainder were disrupted using electronic warfare or had already flown off course without causing a significant threat. Various factors can impact the monthly launch rates positively or negatively, however it remains likely that Russia can sustain numbers in excess of at least 1,500 per month.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:23 am to
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the Ukrainians must be kicking serious arse... Yet again.


Do you honestly believe that? Genuinely asking. If so, why?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 7:28 am to
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CitizenK... don't keep fueling the troll train.

They don't believe you because they're in their parent's spare bedrooms pretending to be grown-ups on here.


We don't believe him because he has proven to be an outright liar on multiple occasions, and cannot provide any proof of his claims.

I HIGHLY disagree with you often, but don't think you a liar.

Citizen still won't even admit that Ukraine blew up Nordstream
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 7:29 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16108 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:05 am to
IF you had been in this thread from the start, it's generally the case when the trolls begin posting. Thus historically accurate.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:32 am to
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IF you had been in this thread from the start, it's generally the case when the trolls begin posting. Thus historically accurate.



So you've got no actual information of value to add, thanks for your response
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:33 am to
it's uncanny
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5724 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:50 am to
Russia's energy giant Gazprom plans major layoffs as Europe market shrinks, media reports

by Tim Zadorozhnyy January 13, 2025 4:13 PM

The Russian energy giant Gazprom is preparing to lay off 1,600 employees from its central office as it faces significant financial losses and dwindling market presence in Europe, Russia's local 47News media outlet reported on Jan. 13.

The news comes after Ukraine halted the transit of Russian gas to other European countries, ending an arrangement dating back to Soviet times.

Deputy Chairman of the Management Committee Elena Ilyukhina reportedly sent a letter to Gazprom CEO Alexey Miller, outlining the need for cost optimization due to "challenges facing the Gazprom Group."

The Kyiv Independent
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