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Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:54 am to
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 8:54 am to
Russian invaders destroy or damage 630 religious buildings in Ukraine – expert

During the full-scale war, Russian invaders have destroyed or damaged 630 religious buildings in Ukraine and killed over 40 priests and pastors.

This was stated by Head of the State Service of Ukraine for Ethnopolitics and Freedom of Conscience, Viktor Yelenskyi, during a press conference at Ukrinform.

"During this war, over 40 priests and pastors have been killed, and 630 religious buildings have been destroyed or damaged. There have also been cases of abduction of clergy, such as in Kherson region, where on February 14, Priest Stepan Podolchak of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church was abducted," Yelensky informed.

He noted that Russia is one of the countries where religious freedoms are most strictly limited, and what is happening in the occupied territories cannot be legally defined in any way.

According to the Head of the State Service, the Russian Orthodox Church actively persecutes religious organizations that do not fall under its jurisdiction.

"When Russia claims to protect the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, it must first and foremost protect it from Russia. During the war, 14 priests of this church have been killed, more than 100 churches have been destroyed, and nearly 200 have been damaged," Yelenskyi said.

He reminded that in August, a law was passed to terminate the activities of religious organizations linked to the Russian Orthodox Church in Ukraine. The Russian Orthodox Church openly declared its participation in the war against Ukraine, and this law is aimed at protecting Ukrainian identity and statehood from the influence of this church.

As previously reported, on August 20, the Verkhovna Rada passed Law No. 8371, banning religious organizations linked to the Russian Orthodox Church.

According to the press service of the SBU (Security Service of Ukraine), since the beginning of Russia's full-scale invasion, criminal cases have been olaunched against more than 100 clergy members of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate), almost 50 of whom have already been notified of suspicion, and 26 have received judicial verdicts.

Ukrinform
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:03 am to
highly recommend Craig's newsletter article referenced in the Ukrainska Pravda article.


Russia's war spending may be twice its military budget, risking economic collapse

Volodymyr Tunik-Fryz — Sunday, 12 January 2025, 23:32

The amount of Russia's military spending that is funded through a shadow financing scheme could be equal to its official military budget and may be contributing to rising inflation risks in the country.

Source: Craig Kennedy, a former investment banker at Bank of America and Morgan Stanley, in his Navigating Russia newsletter

Details: Since February 2022, Russian banks have been required to issue preferential loans to military enterprises on terms dictated by the state. According to Kennedy, over 70% of corporate loans in Russia since 2022 have been granted to sectors involved in the war.

Kennedy reports that over the three years of the war, this scheme may have provided the aggressor with funds equal to its official military budget. At the same time, it has led to unprecedented corporate borrowing, reaching US$415 billion.

Quote: "This report estimates that US$210 to US$250 billion of this surge consists of compulsory, preferential bank loans extended to defence contractors – many with poor credit – to help pay for war-related goods and services."

More details: At the start of the full-scale invasion, the off-budget financing scheme helped Russia maintain its military budget at a controllable level, misleading international experts into believing the country faced no financial issues in funding the war.

However, Kennedy says Russia's current reliance on off-budget financing is creating problems, driving inflation and interest rate hikes.

Now the scheme risks triggering a systemic crisis due to disproportionately high interest rates, liquidity and reserve problems at banks, and a severely compromised monetary transmission mechanism.

Kennedy emphasises that the longer Moscow delays ending the war in Ukraine, the closer it will move towards corporate and banking collapses which the Russian government would be forced to cover. These difficulties could also lead to a fall in GDP.

Kennedy argues that Western resources can surpass Russia's capacity to sustain a war of attrition against Ukraine. He calls for continued support for Ukraine and tougher sanctions, and rejects any notion of sanctions being lifted in exchange for a ceasefire.

Quote: "Moscow’s funding challenges only increase from here, especially if coalition countries enforce more fully the powerful energy sanction tools at their disposal.

Through continued resolve and a clear understanding of Moscow’s vulnerabilities, Ukraine and its allies can realise the full potential of their negotiating leverage, avoid making unnecessary concessions, and reduce the longer-term risks posed by Russian revanchism."

Ukrainska Pravda
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:35 am
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:11 am to
Many of these people are delusional. They not only aren't willing to accept the realities on the ground, they are bewildered that their globalist, unipolar, woke world is being rejected worldwide. Failed policies that people no longer accept. Mass illegal immigration, climate change bullshite, endless war, etc. etc. Examples: US elections and the total rejection of Biden/Harris, Trudeau in Canada, Scholz in Germany, Macron in France, Starmer in GB, Austria etc. etc.

These people support pouring billions more into Ukraine but I have asked several times how will that reverse the situation and bring about victory for Ukraine? And I get crickets from them every time. In actuality, things have gotten worse for Ukraine after the latest 61 billion was allocated.

Their failed leftist policies are being rejected worldwide.

Here is an example of their delusion. Nothing but lies, weakness and total failure.

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Trump must go in and end this immediately or he is going to get sucked into a much worse situation if the war is allowed to continue. The crash that is coming down the road is much worse that the one we currently have.

He must say: This isn't my war, I dont support the continued slaughter and for the sake of Ukraine it must end now.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:25 am
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:25 am to
you’re going to be incredibly disappointed when nothing different happens with Ukraine and Trump is busy tweeting about H1Bs and canada
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:25 am to
quote:

Trump must go in and end this immediately or he is going to get sucked into a much worse situation if the war is allowed to continue. The crash that is coming down the road is much worse that the one we currently have.

He must say: This isn't my war, I dont support the continued slaughter and for the sake of Ukraine it must end now.

Instead, they're saying lower the draft age, and y'all refuse to realize it's not ending... because...
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Many of these people are delusional.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:26 am
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:29 am to
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He must say: Thus isn't my war, I dont support the continued slaughter and for the sake of Ukraine it must end now.



Thats a big issue I have with this whole situation. Had our leadership said this from the beginning and been willing to negotiate, it probably ends in the first few months if not year.

Russia's initial attack failed, whether you think it was an all out blitz intended to be a "3 day operation", just initial maneuvering at the start of a conflict, or somewhere in between (this is where I am on it, for the record).

Once that initial attack failed, there should have been a big push for peace. We had the upper hand on Russia... but I think the west got a taste for victory and assumed they could keep winning. Since then the wins have come more as embarrassing headlines for Russia rather than actual operational success for Ukraine.

So we continue pouring resources into this conflict that increasingly looks like it will end in a similar or worse way for Ukraine than it would have if they had just given up some land in 2022 that they will lose anyway whenever it ends.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:34 am to
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Instead, they're saying lower the draft age, and y'all refuse to realize it's not ending... because...



If its not ending now then its because Russia isn't ready for it to end, IMO. And if they aren't ready for it to end, then they have some information that is telling them they can get more out of Ukraine in X amount of time than they can today.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:34 am to
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you’re going to be incredibly disappointed when nothing different happens with Ukraine and Trump is busy tweeting about H1Bs and canada



You may be right. If Trump goes down those paths he is making a mistake. Following this failed policy in Ukraine and/or prolonging it will draw Trump into a quagmire like what happened to Johnson in Vietnam. A quagmire that the majority of Americans do not support and will end in total disaster.
This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:39 am
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:41 am to
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If its not ending now then its because Russia isn't ready for it to end, IMO.

A story as old as the SMO.
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And if they aren't ready for it to end, then they have some information that is telling them they can get more out of Ukraine in X amount of time than they can today.

I think you're conflating the word information with dictator. Easy to confuse.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:41 am to
quote:

you’re going to be incredibly disappointed when nothing different happens with Ukraine and Trump is busy tweeting about H1Bs and canada


I find it ironic that all of the Biden voters or the ones at least that didn't vote for Trump in here are now on the Trump train and are saying: Look at what Trump is saying! Look at what Trump is doing!!

A hope and a prayer.

This post was edited on 1/13/25 at 9:44 am
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:42 am to
The only thing that will stop the war on the Russian side is a collapse of their economy. Putin sure as shite is pot committed with all of the damage it's done to the Russian economy and industry. If he can steal all of Ukraine, he can stay in power.

Until then we get to see the mighty Russian war machine and propagandists doing their business.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:51 am to
quote:

And if they aren't ready for it to end, then they have some information that is telling them they can get more out of Ukraine in X amount of time than they can today.

I think you're conflating the word information with dictator. Easy to confuse.


Dictator or not, Putin has shown himself to be fairly shrewd and calculating. If we were just dealing with some moron, why is everyone so concerned about him?

In fact, just in the past few months we have operational evidence that he is receiving reports and reacting to those reports. With the Kursk situation its pretty obvious someone told him that they could either go clean up Kursk or keep advancing. He wants to keep advancing, so he got help from North Korea in Kursk. Of course the results of that so far from a Russia perspective are either bad or mixed, but its clear that was Putin responding directly to the realities on the ground based on information he was given from people closer to the situation than he is. Acting like he is just moving chess pieces with no context is doing ourselves a disservice by underestimating one of our biggest geopolitical adversaries.

Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8423 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:53 am to
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If he can steal all of Ukraine, he can stay in power.


They will spin almost any gain of territory as a Russian victory. I don't think he needs all of Ukraine at all.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 9:56 am to
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The only thing that will stop the war on the Russian side is a collapse of their economy.


You are correct and these sanctions have failed to accomplish that.

Russia still exports oil and gas.
Technology still flows in from China
No consequences for Iran or N. Korea
No consequences for India
No consequences for what Russia is doing in Africa in the looting of millions or billions of dollars or resources.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:02 am to
quote:

I don't think he needs all of Ukraine at all.


They have no interest in occupying all of Ukraine. Only up to the Dnieper River and Odessa.

And if this war continues with the same existing parameters that is what they will eventually get.

Occupying western Ukraine would be a nightmare for Russia.
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:25 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:39 am to
Posted by John Barron
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Posted on 1/13/25 at 10:42 am to
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41423 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:04 am to
quote:

Many of these people are delusional.



Keep in mind.

A mega Ukraine supporter waited under a bush to kill Trump because he believed Trump would kill Ukraine support.

That fact was not touched here with a 10 foot pole.

What if Kamala won and a Russian tried to kill her? Do you think Lee B, Citizen L and GOOP_Tiger would mention that story?

That’s who you’re dealing with. Adjust your expectations accordingly.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11215 posts
Posted on 1/13/25 at 11:33 am to
"religious freedoms are most strictly limited". I have letters in my file warning against the observation of Christmas from the govt in Saudi. The muslim attack on christians world wide will only end when the last christian is dead
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