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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:15 am to BugAC
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:15 am to BugAC
We've been trying to tell the chicken hawks for years that there's zero chance a short, ugly Jewish dude could legitimately come out of nowhere with zero relevant experience and win in an overwhelming Orthodox Christian nation, but they refused to believe how evil our deep state is and how much we meddle in foreign affairs.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 11:22 am
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Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:27 am to SirWinston
Hahaha.
Who in their right mind would believe these polls represent the desire of the people for Putin to control all of Ukraine?
That’s what the election was about.
The vodka is surely flowing…
Who in their right mind would believe these polls represent the desire of the people for Putin to control all of Ukraine?
That’s what the election was about.
The vodka is surely flowing…
Posted on 12/3/24 at 11:30 am to CitizenK
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Even with her aristocratic breeding, she was not smart enough to get into college
You can listen to footage of her talking and tell that she was (at the very least) of above average intelligence
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:24 pm to SirWinston
You know that Ashkenazi Jews have higher average IQs than other European whites, right? maybe higher than anybody else on the planet on average.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:40 pm to Lee B
I would not disagree with that statement. When you add the fact that they treat each other as an extended family or fraternity, it's no wonder that they rise to power literally everywhere they have ever lived.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:46 pm to SirWinston
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overwhelming Orthodox Christian nation,
I thought Ukraine was full of godless heathans, Nazis, Jews, and western culturally influenced decadence?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 12:46 pm to SirWinston
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We've been trying to tell the chicken hawks for years that there's zero chance a short, ugly Jewish dude could legitimately come out of nowhere with zero relevant experience and win in an overwhelming Orthodox Christian nation, but they refused to believe how evil our deep state is and how much we meddle in foreign affairs.
He was Kolomoyskyi's creature
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:08 pm to doubleb
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Thousands of Ukrainians are deserting. Thousands are getting killed or wounded. Ukraine had a 10:1 disadvantage in artillery.
Russia is doing what? Gaining a few Kms a month? How is that possible?
Hellin claimed they gained about 700 sq km last month excluding Donbas and Kursk
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:17 pm to Lee B
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South Korean President Yoon Suk Yeol declared martial law on Tuesday as he accused the country's main opposition party of being overly sympathetic to North Korea and other "anti-state" activities.
Yoon said in a late night television address that he made the declaration "to protect the free Republic of Korea from the threat of North Korean communist forces, to eradicate the despicable pro-North Korean anti-state forces that are plundering the freedom and happiness of our people, and to protect the free constitutional order."
South Korean opposition parties had taken the country's parliamentary system hostage and thrown the country into crisis, leaving him no choice but to make the drastic move, Yoon said. Lee Jae-myung, leader of the opposition Democratic Party, which has the majority in parliament, told YTN parliament would try to nullify the declaration.
There's two dynamics at play here... the SK right tends towards dictatorship (they've only truly become Democratic in the 90s) and corruption, and the SK left tends towards being overly sympathetic to the North and feeling that the Kim regime is more "Korean" and that "the West" has hijacked SK.
Add to that current suspicion that Russia is generally conducting its cyber hijinks in response to SK increasingly backing Ukraine.
I find it very hard to believe this isn't just the SK right trying to suppress opposition, not that the opposition is actually a threat to the country. I also find it very hard to believe that there are very many powerful people who would want to hand SK over to the Kims.
Parliament already voted it down but the military won't lift it until the president does.
Big disclaimer though, I really don't know much about SK and I'm probably off-base so feel free to correct me if you have actual information. I'm generally a skeptic of governments when they take actions that suddenly give them lots of power and that obviously happened here.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:36 pm to No Colors
I've actually been to Ukraine multiple times. Kiev, Lviv and rural areas. They are very good people and overwhelmingly Christian.
My ex fiancee is a liberal atheist who still supports the rat Zelenskyy. I sure can pick them
My ex fiancee is a liberal atheist who still supports the rat Zelenskyy. I sure can pick them
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:38 pm to Lima Whiskey
Yup. Extended family / fraternity just as I was saying. I'm sure there's a similar story about Sheinbaum's rise in heavily Catholic Mexico. Zero chance that happened organically.
But the chicken hawks here will call us "anti semitic" for pointing it out.
But the chicken hawks here will call us "anti semitic" for pointing it out.
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Kolomoyskyi was born into a Jewish family in Dnipropetrovsk, Ukrainian SSR, Soviet Union. Both parents had graduated in engineering. His mother worked at the university and father in a metallurgical plant.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:44 pm to VolSquatch
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Hellin claimed they gained about 700 sq km last month excluding Donbas and Kursk
If the front is 350 KM long and you move forward 2 KM you gain 700Km.
Making statements like that are really meaningless. To determine if it is significant then you need to describe what was taken not just talking about the area taken.
For instance Ukraine took 1000 square Km of Kursk in a week. How significant was that?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:46 pm to SirWinston
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My ex fiancee is a liberal atheist who still supports the rat Zelenskyy. I sure can pick them
Is that who spawned your out of wedlock child ?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:51 pm to SirWinston
One of Ukraine’s problems was you had these oligarchs who did not see themselves as Slavs, they’re not, and who felt fully entitled to loot the country for their own benefit. Kolomoyskyi stole billions.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 1:58 pm to GOP_Tiger
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3 different type of antipersonnel mine systems are being provided, per NYT:
America's area denial anti-personnel mines are battery activated and become inert pretty quickly when the battery runs down. Russian anti-personnel mines are mechanically triggered and remain a danger for years.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 2:13 pm to doubleb
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If the front is 350 KM long and you move forward 2 KM you gain 700Km.
Making statements like that are really meaningless
It means they are making slow but consistent gains across a wide area, I don't think that qualifies as meaningless by any stretch unless you are just a sunshine pumper who wants to ignore the state of the conflict
Posted on 12/3/24 at 2:23 pm to VolSquatch
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I find it very hard to believe this isn't just the SK right trying to suppress opposition, not that the opposition is actually a threat to the country. I also find it very hard to believe that there are very many powerful people who would want to hand SK over to the Kims.
Parliament already voted it down but the military won't lift it until the president does.
Big disclaimer though, I really don't know much about SK and I'm probably off-base so feel free to correct me if you have actual information. I'm generally a skeptic of governments when they take actions that suddenly give them lots of power and that obviously happened here.
The current President there barely won office, the parliament is controlled by the opposition party, a lot of his cabinet members have been caught in corruption, and he's probably going to be impeached.
So, yes, he is just using this as an excuse to exert power over the opposition. And it won't/can't work.
But that's separate from the South Korean Left being sympathetic to- or outright supportive of - Kim, in the same way that a lot of Americans on the right have become sympathetic to/supportive of Putin. They view him as better "morally" than the West, of for different reasons.
You can gauge a lot about societies from their entertainment, right?
In the past couple of decades there's been a lot of South Korean movies with either outright ("Parasite") or metaphorical (zombie and monster flicks) critiques of South Korean Capitalism. A few years ago the biggest domestic hit there was a "cop buddy" action flick, where a North Korean cop and a South Korean cop have to team up to stop something of other... you know the plot of these, "48 Hours," etc. The North Korean cop was physically fit, very serious and competent and devoted. The South Korean cop was played by a famous comedian there... his character was overweight and slovenly, a drunk, incompetent and corrupt, outright stupid, a total frick up obsessed with old American pop culture who had to be saved by the NK cop over and over. That's a glimpse into how they kind of view things. There is an anti-american/capitalism thing brewing in the sewers (where a lot of the poor population live) there...
(EDIT - I forgot "Squid Game," which is the most scathing critique of Capitalism and Billionaires ever... and a phenomenal international hit!)
So, in this incident, claims of "North Korean manipulation/sympathies" are being used as a smoke screen to grab power.
But those things actually do exist there.
This post was edited on 12/3/24 at 2:47 pm
Posted on 12/3/24 at 2:26 pm to Lima Whiskey
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One of Ukraine’s problems was you had these oligarchs who did not see themselves as Slavs, they’re not, and who felt fully entitled to loot the country for their own benefit. Kolomoyskyi stole billions.
That's the problem of Russia, also, writ large... even if they see themselves as "Slavs" or Russians, they have the old-Mongol-era mindset that they are above the peasants and can loot the country.
Posted on 12/3/24 at 2:34 pm to SirWinston
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My ex fiancee is a liberal atheist who still supports the rat Zelenskyy. I sure can pick them
What was his name?
Posted on 12/3/24 at 2:36 pm to VolSquatch
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It means they are making slow but consistent gains across a wide area, I don't think that qualifies as meaningless by any stretch unless you are just a sunshine pumper who wants to ignore the state of the conflict
Wrong answer.
It’s meaningless if there is no context.
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