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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/1/24 at 12:44 pm to
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 12:44 pm to
Thousands of Ukrainians are deserting. Thousands are getting killed or wounded. Ukraine had a 10:1 disadvantage in artillery.

Russia is doing what? Gaining a few Kms a month? How is that possible?
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 12/1/24 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38159 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 1:50 pm to
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Russian troops deployed in Syria have suffered "significant" losses, some Russian units are surrounded, and "hundreds" of Russian soldiers are missing, according to HUR.


Oh no. RIP sir Winston’s good Christian lads. You figured they would have learned their lesson after we wiped out hundreds of them under Trump at Khasham.
This post was edited on 12/1/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1859 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 2:08 pm to
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after we wiped out hundreds of them under Trump at Khasham.


Forgot about that. Didn't a special forces unit take out 200+ wagner fighters?
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13311 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 3:29 pm to
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How is that possible?

They haven't started trying yet.

I literally read that on the Poliboard about 6 months ago. And it got like 50 up votes.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 3:50 pm to
There is a desertion problem, but it is from being in battle for over two years. That takes a mental toll on those at the front. For Russia, they have units behind the front to shoot any deserters, While I have not found the real source, lots of desertions for Russia in Kherson, where there isn't much fighting.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
22594 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 5:28 pm to
Paid revolutionaries, seriously?
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13133 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:26 pm to
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Paid revolutionaries, seriously?


Surprised it took this long.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41299 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 6:29 pm to
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For Russia, they have units behind the front to shoot any deserters


Ukraine had a unit where their entire job was capturing deserters. The amount got so large they then decriminalized it as long as you came back
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:46 pm to
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Ukraine had a unit where their entire job was capturing deserters. The amount got so large they then decriminalized it as long as you came back


No comparison, try harder next time
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 7:47 pm to
quote:

Ukraine had a unit where their entire job was capturing deserters. The amount got so large they then decriminalized it as long as you came back


Exactly the opposite, as usual. Ukrainian troops have informally left generally whenever they wanted/needed, as command never rotated them out. They almost always came back. This system went back to the early days of the war, when guys informally volunteered for a while, and then might go home to harvest crops or something.

But that system isn't working. A new edict promises strong criminal punishment for those away from their posts.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41299 posts
Posted on 12/1/24 at 10:06 pm to
quote:

Exactly the opposite, as usual. Ukrainian troops have informally left generally whenever they wanted/needed, as command never rotated them out. They almost always came back. This system went back to the early days of the war, when guys informally volunteered for a while, and then might go home to harvest crops or something. But that system isn't working. A new edict promises strong criminal punishment for those away from their posts.


You’re openly lying yet again. The bill to decriminalize troop desertion was passed in August. And yet another bill Nov 21st.

Here’s the bill in your native Ukrainian
LINK

Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 12:05 am to
ISW Update Dec 1

quote:

Key Takeaways:

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) reportedly replaced Lieutenant General Sergei Kisel with Colonel General Alexander Chaiko who will reprise his previous assignment as commander of the Russian Force Grouping in Syria, though it remains unclear how Russian operations in Syria may change.

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree approving the 2025 federal budget and the 2026–2027 draft federal budget on December 1.

Russian state media reported that the Russian military command appointed Colonel General Rustam Muradov as the First Deputy Commander of the Russian Ground Forces.

The Georgian opposition continues to contest the legitimacy of Georgia's ruling Georgian Dream party's electoral victory following Georgian Dream's suspension of Georgia's European Union (EU) membership accession talks.

Ukrainian forces recently advanced in Kursk Oblast, and Russian forces recently advanced near Pokrovsk and Hulyaipole..
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 3:37 am to
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You’re openly lying yet again. The bill to decriminalize troop desertion was passed in August. And yet another bill Nov 21st.

Here’s the bill in your native Ukrainian
LINK


Good grief, are you really that stupid? No wait, I already know the answer to that. I just wish that you mom would make you so your reading comprehension homework and quit posting here until you finish 5th grade.

The new law that you just posted was:

quote:

"5. A person who during the martial law for the first time committed a criminal offense provided for in Articles 407, 408 of this Code may be released from criminal liability in accordance with the procedure provided for by the criminal procedural legislation of Ukraine, if he voluntarily applied to the investigator, prosecutor, to the court about the intention to return to this or another military unit or to the place of service to continue military service and with the written consent of the commander (chief) of a military unit (institution) for the continuation of such a person's military service"


So, yes, in conjunction with the new crackdown on desertion there was also this law saying that prosecution can be avoided if the accused returns to his military unit. The whole point is to get those men back to the front lines.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 7:44 am to
Russia Flees Damascus: Abandoned Military Equipment, Command Shake-Up, Major Losses in Syria

by Kyiv Post | December 2, 2024, 2:59 pm

In the Syrian capital of Damascus, armed clashes have erupted between rebels and government forces loyal to Bashar al-Assad, with the situation for Russians in Syria deteriorating rapidly.

As a result, Russian military personnel and diplomats have begun urgently evacuating the capital, Ukraine’s Defense Intelligence Directorate (HUR) reported on Monday, Dec. 2.

According to intelligence reports, opposition forces are actively advancing southward in Syria, with initial battles reported in the cities of Hama, Homs, and Suwayda.

“The aggressor state’s military contingent has fled from Hama and evacuated to the Khmeimim Air Base. The head of the Russian coordination headquarters located in Khmeimim, Col. Gen. Alexander Zhuravlyov, acknowledged that the Assad regime has lost control over the situation,” the report states.

Ukrainian intelligence also said that Russian forces have abandoned a military base in the city of Khan Shaykhun, leaving behind a significant stockpile of weapons and equipment. This hasty retreat raises many questions, as Russia previously had a stable presence in Syria.

Amid the chaotic withdrawal of Russian troops, Arab-language social media channels are abuzz with discussions about the resignation of the commander of the Russian contingent, Gen. Sergey Kiselyov.

Simultaneously, Col. Vadim Baykulov, who commanded a Russian special forces unit, has been urgently summoned to Moscow. He is expected to explain why his unit suffered losses and how military equipment in Aleppo ended up in enemy hands, intelligence reports reveal.

The Kyiv Post
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1859 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 8:13 am to
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imultaneously, Col. Vadim Baykulov, who commanded a Russian special forces unit, has been urgently summoned to Moscow. He is expected to explain why his unit suffered losses


Bet he hopes the interview takes place in a ground floor office.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15666 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:02 am to
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Bet he hopes the interview takes place in a ground floor office.


He could be transferred to a frontline unit against Ukraine.
Posted by bigjoe1
Member since Jan 2024
1859 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:29 am to
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He could be transferred to a frontline unit against Ukraine.


We have places for people like you.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41299 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:27 am to
quote:

there was also this law saying that prosecution can be avoided if the accused returns to his military unit. The whole point is to get those men back to the front lines.


No shite Lindsey. The entire point is there were so many people leaving they had to pass a law removing prosecution.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
28544 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:29 am to
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Russian forces have abandoned a military base in the city of Khan Shaykhun, leaving behind a significant stockpile of weapons and equipment.

Sounds familiar
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