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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 12:48 pm to
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With no sanction quantification, relative or not, that is an absolutely stupid comment. 


What? In the context of the broader argument, it supports my point that they've developed a 'resistance economy' with the IRGC modifying supply chains through foundations, front companies and foreign nationals. It doesn't matter the type of sanction, they've developed a workaround. For example, the sanctions program aimed at curbing their missile program did not succeed in either curbing their to production of domestic ballistic missiles nor their transfer to proxy groups.

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The audacity of blind presumption regarding anyone else's knowledgebase issued from such a painfully clueless perspective is breathtaking.


You can't see the forest for the trees man. Iran was not immediately weakened by the sanctions nor have their been any noticeable effects on their proxies. We know this from their behavior in 2019 but obviously you can't seem to understand that. Oh well.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:01 pm to
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Weird, how did they manage to survive all those decades before getting nukes???


Their nuclear program started when the USSR still existed, so I would wager the USSR's existence probably had a tiny bit to do with that.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41298 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:23 pm to
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That is insane how big that area of fires/explosions is.


It’s funny how liberals will say refrigeration, pizza ovens and cows hurt the climate and climate change is the world’s greatest threat. Yet have zero issues blowing up and burning anything and everything they don’t like. I guess the toxic fumes stop at the border right?
Posted by CitizenK
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Member since Aug 2019
15665 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:29 pm to
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It’s funny how liberals will say refrigeration, pizza ovens and cows hurt the climate and climate change is the world’s greatest threat. Yet have zero issues blowing up and burning anything and everything they don’t like. I guess the toxic fumes stop at the border right?


Most conservatives are cheering this. It's Tucker's Stupid Phuckers and their ilk who aren't.
Posted by texag7
College Station
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Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:34 pm to
If Tucker is “stupid” what does that make you?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15665 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:36 pm to
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You can't see the forest for the trees man. Iran was not immediately weakened by the sanctions nor have their been any noticeable effects on their proxies. We know this from their behavior in 2019 but obviously you can't seem to understand that. Oh well.


His thinking, and that of others, is that Trump caused gasoline prices down in 2020. Meanwhile oil companies were literally pouring free gasoline to the market to keep some of their refining going to make more profitable products than next to no profit gasoline. Exxon Chemical was making bank selling isopropyl alcohol using propylene from the Exxon Refinery cat crackers which were losing shirt money out the wazoo making gasoline. The isopropyl alcohol unit ran well above nameplate capacity and months beyond a scheduled turnaround.

Just like in 2014, many independent oil producers were forced into bankruptcy or mergers with loss of revenue.
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 1:42 pm
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8163 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:37 pm to
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It's Tucker's Stupid Phuckers and their ilk who aren't.

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If Tucker is “stupid” what does that make you?


Reading comprehension is challenging for you, isn't it?
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 1:39 pm
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41298 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:40 pm to
As someone who works at Exxon headquarters you have absolutely zero clue what you’re talking about. My god what a nimwit.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:43 pm to
Luckily for Ukraine, Russia's biggest enemy is itself:

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
4318 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 1:46 pm to
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Several indications that Ukraine used its new jet-powered drones in the attack.
Very, very interesting.

The sound of that engine is unmistakable and it's flying at a low, approach altitude. I doubt seriously that Ukraine got an aircraft to that location and Russian aircraft wouldn't have had time to respond. So, cruise missile.

Did the promised Canadian 'rocket engines' arrive already? Maybe, maybe not. But we do know that the Scalp/Storm Shadow cruise missiles have been there for a long time. Logic is not my strong suit, but this is looking like it could, just possibly, maybe, somewhat be our long-awaited long distance go-ahead.

Some comment has been that the White House will give permission to use the Scalp/Storm Shadow cruise missiles for long range targets soon, but not the US ATACMS. The concern being that Russia would then facilitate a major attack on a US Base in the Middle East to influence the US election. Some commenters have gone as far as to guarantee such an attack will occur this month or next.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3945 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:05 pm to
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The concern being that Russia would then facilitate a major attack on a US Base in the Middle East to influence the US election. Some commenters have gone as far as to guarantee such an attack will occur this month or next.


Yep, I've seen people warning that you can almost depend on it...
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15665 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:16 pm to
Sure buddy sure you do and know.

As to Tucker, Ukraine bad because Nazis. Also Tucker, Nazis good, the West bad. You cannot be a more stupid phucker than buy what this dude sells
Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53711 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:52 pm to
CitizenKuck melt day 973
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138772 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:54 pm to
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Most conservatives are cheering this
Anyone cheering any of this understands too few of the stakes. The attack appears to have been VERY successful. If that fact brings the entire thing closer to an end, I'll clap.
This post was edited on 9/18/24 at 7:22 pm
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5645 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 2:58 pm to
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Several indications that Ukraine used its new jet-powered drones in the attack.


It appears that the Palyantsia is now being used. Here's another strike that may confirm it.

In the Bryansk oblast, an unknown type of weapon struck a Russian military base and destroyed one of the buildings.


18 September, 2024

The moment of the hit was filmed by a Russian soldier, whose video was posted on the Exilenova Telegram channel.

The targeted military base, designated No. 23857, is located near the village of Pochep.

In the video, a Russian soldier captured a distinctive noise resembling the sound of a jet engine.

It is possible that the military base was hit by a Ukrainian Palianytsia long-range drone missile.

The Palyanytsia was developed by Ukrainian specialists in the shortest possible time to create a response to Russia’s constant missile attacks.

Due to the secrecy of the product, the characteristics of the new long-range weapon are not disclosed.

However, it is noted that more than two dozen Russian airfields are within range of this missile.

The Palyanytsia is launched from the ground, and to achieve a long range, the drone missile is equipped with a turbojet engine, which in theory allows for thrust control to achieve the most economical flight speed.

Militarnyi


Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:01 pm to
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As someone who works at Exxon headquarters you have absolutely zero clue what you’re talking about. My god what a nimwit.


Classic "I drive a Dodge Stratus" moment.

Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
20967 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:03 pm to
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BREAKING: Armenia says that it has foiled a Russia-backed coup attempt


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Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
15375 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:08 pm to
This war is still going on?
Posted by dagrippa
Saigon
Member since Nov 2004
12171 posts
Posted on 9/18/24 at 3:59 pm to
3 days more at most
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