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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:41 pm to Lee B
Posted on 9/18/24 at 11:41 pm to Lee B
NATO doctrine called for countries that were attacked and invoked Article 5 to hold off the Russians for 10 days in their country while NATO assembled a force and came to their defense.
Estonia has suggested too much damage could be done in that 10 days, and has asked for a change: the permission to counter-attack the Russians immediately in Russia.
NATO has said yes.
RBC-UKRAINE: Estonia may strike Russian territory in event of threat of war with NATO - Chief of Staff
Estonia has suggested too much damage could be done in that 10 days, and has asked for a change: the permission to counter-attack the Russians immediately in Russia.
NATO has said yes.
RBC-UKRAINE: Estonia may strike Russian territory in event of threat of war with NATO - Chief of Staff
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 12:44 am to Lee B
Are they just being paranoid now, or... Jewish Space Lasers at work?
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Posted on 9/19/24 at 3:51 am to Lee B
Posted on 9/19/24 at 4:20 am to cypher
LOL at "BRICS"
LINK
Exclusive: Ammunition from India enters Ukraine, raising Russian ire
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Exclusive: Ammunition from India enters Ukraine, raising Russian ire
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NEW DELHI, Sept 19 (Reuters) - Artillery shells sold by Indian arms makers have been diverted by European customers to Ukraine and New Delhi has not intervened to stop the trade despite protests from Moscow, according to eleven Indian and European government and defence industry officials, as well as a Reuters analysis of commercially available customs data.
The transfer of munitions to support Ukraine's defence against Russia has occurred for more than a year, according to the sources and the customs data. Indian arms export regulations limit the use of weaponry to the declared purchaser, who risks future sales being terminated if unauthorised transfers occur.
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Among the European countries sending Indian munitions to Ukraine are Italy and the Czech Republic, which is leading an initiative to supply Kyiv with artillery shells from outside the European Union, according to a Spanish and a senior Indian official, as well as a former top executive at Yantra India, a state-owned company whose munitions are being used by Ukraine.
The Indian official said that Delhi was monitoring the situation. But, along with a defence industry executive with direct knowledge of the transfers, he said India had not taken any action to throttle the supply to Europe. Like most of the 20 people interviewed by Reuters, they spoke on condition of anonymity due to the sensitivity of the matter.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 5:36 am to Lee B
Lmao. What the hell is Estonia gonna do? They have zero tanks, 12 artillery pieces and 5 aircraft?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 5:57 am to ticklechain
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Lmao. What the hell is Estonia gonna do? They have zero tanks, 12 artillery pieces and 5 aircraft?
While very small in numbers, they probably have long range weaponry that can strike logistics well behind the front lines.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 6:16 am to ticklechain
Estonia, like it's Baltic neighbors, sent most of its equipment to Ukraine. They know the stakes.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:03 am to GOP_Tiger
That's what I seemed to remember also. Doesn't look like they have the capability to do much of anything, much less launch an offensive against Russia. Kinda why I was scratching my head about them seeking permission to attack before a force was generated
Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:11 am to ticklechain
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That's what I seemed to remember also. Doesn't look like they have the capability to do much of anything, much less launch an offensive against Russia. Kinda why I was scratching my head about them seeking permission to attack before a force was generated
I think you are misreading the policy change. This is not giving Estonia the green light to “launch an offensive against Russia.” They are discussing the response if Russia launches an offensive against Estonia.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:16 am to TBoy
That's what I read also. Didn't really think they had any military capabilities to speak of if Russia did attack. I guess I should have clarified a counteroffensive.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 7:59 am to bigjoe1
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Lmao. What the hell is Estonia gonna do? They have zero tanks, 12 artillery pieces and 5 aircraft?
While very small in numbers, they probably have long range weaponry that can strike logistics well behind the front lines.
And will make sure to have a lot more of it, now... and a lot of those Ukrainian jet drones.
They're also a very cyber-focused nation.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:12 am to Lee B
and does this mean that Poland and Finland have to wait before joining Estonia, or Latvia, or Lithuania?
I'd assume Kaliningrad would be attacked by Poland in a counter-offensive instantly...the Russian Navy in the Baltic sea gets attacked my all the NATO Navies...
and also, this is being planned out beforehand, not just vaguely thrown out as "yeah, do whatever..."
NATO did not have any plans about invading Russia, only plans dealing with defending member countries in those countries. Putin has managed to get that updated out of necessity.
I'd assume Kaliningrad would be attacked by Poland in a counter-offensive instantly...the Russian Navy in the Baltic sea gets attacked my all the NATO Navies...
and also, this is being planned out beforehand, not just vaguely thrown out as "yeah, do whatever..."
NATO did not have any plans about invading Russia, only plans dealing with defending member countries in those countries. Putin has managed to get that updated out of necessity.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:27 am to GOP_Tiger
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Estonia, like it's Baltic neighbors, sent most of its equipment to Ukraine.
Hey Bill. Did they cut a deal like all of those other European "allies" to send their old stuff because they will be getting new stuff furnished by the US taxpayer?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:28 am to Lee B
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 19 September 2024
On 16 September 2024, Russian President Putin signed a decree to increase the size of the Russian military with an additional 180,000 personnel to 1.5 million in total coming into effect from December 2024. This is the third decree that has been signed by Putin to increase the size of the Russian military since the start of the Ukraine conflict in February 2022.
Russia's aspiration to expand its military is well-established. In December 2022, then-Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu called on the Russian forces to be enlarged to 1.5 million. Russia will likely increase the number and size of units in its ground forces to accommodate the majority of the additional 180,000 personnel. Despite the stated intent to expand its force, it is likely that this ambition will be hampered by continued heavy losses sustained in the conflict against Ukraine and recruitment challenges.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 19 September 2024
On 16 September 2024, Russian President Putin signed a decree to increase the size of the Russian military with an additional 180,000 personnel to 1.5 million in total coming into effect from December 2024. This is the third decree that has been signed by Putin to increase the size of the Russian military since the start of the Ukraine conflict in February 2022.
Russia's aspiration to expand its military is well-established. In December 2022, then-Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu called on the Russian forces to be enlarged to 1.5 million. Russia will likely increase the number and size of units in its ground forces to accommodate the majority of the additional 180,000 personnel. Despite the stated intent to expand its force, it is likely that this ambition will be hampered by continued heavy losses sustained in the conflict against Ukraine and recruitment challenges.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:33 am to Lee B
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and does this mean that Poland and Finland have to wait before joining Estonia, or Latvia, or Lithuania?
I'd assume Kaliningrad would be attacked by Poland in a counter-offensive instantly...the Russian Navy in the Baltic sea gets attacked my all the NATO Navies...
and also, this is being planned out beforehand, not just vaguely thrown out as "yeah, do whatever..."
Good Lord Leon.
Do you honestly believe that Putin will attack any NATO country? You people live in a fantasy world. This is not reality. It's clown world. The US is not a serious country under this treasonous regime.
On one day you say Putin's army has advanced <2 kilometers in a year and then you clowns believe he is going to invade Poland and/or the Baltic the next. He can't even defeat Ukraine!
This post was edited on 9/19/24 at 8:58 am
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:47 am to AU86
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Good Lord Leon.
Do you honestly believe that Putin will attack any NATO country? You people live in a fantasy world. This is not reality. It's clown world. The US is not a serious country under this treasonous regime.
On one day you say Putin's army has advanced <2 kilometers in a year and then you clowns believe be is going to invade Poland and/or the Baltic the next. He can't even defeat Ukraine!
Well Buttercup, do you really think Al Qaeda would attack the United States?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 8:56 am to Lee B
They are two types that believe/and are pushing the narrative that Putin can attack/invade Nato with conventional forces:
1. The stupid/naive/sheep
2. The ones that are making money off of it.
Which one are you?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:00 am to AU86
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On one day you say Putin's army has advanced <2 kilometers in a year and then you clowns believe be is going to invade Poland and/or the Baltic the next. He can't even defeat Ukraine!
If the West had stood by and watched Russia take Ukraine as they did with Crimea, I could see Russia trying to reclaim parts of Finland or the Baltic states.
Obviously Finland and most of Eastern Europe believed it. Are they clowns too?
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:01 am to AU86
You're not considering the possibility that your boy Trump cripples NATO... which is a possibility.
Posted on 9/19/24 at 9:03 am to AU86
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Do you honestly believe that Putin will attack any NATO country?
That's the whole point of the announcement.... that their is more then "just coming to their defense within 10 days"
by stating the whole of NATO can immediately reply to russia in russia proper is an additional deterrence to said russia attack on NATO......
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