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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:30 am to VolSquatch
Posted on 9/1/24 at 10:30 am to VolSquatch
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Welcome back in the 19th century ??
"Russia and China have begun hiring couriers to pay for goods in gold
Russia has begun using gold to pay for goods from China due to problems with bank transfers, Reuters reports. After the US Treasury threatened secondary sanctions for financial transactions with Moscow in June and credit institutions tightened their checks on transactions, one of the working solutions was a scheme with gold: the metal was bought, transported to Hong Kong, where it was sold, and the cash was deposited in a local bank account, the agency's sources report."
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"Russia will change its nuclear doctrine based on an analysis of recent conflicts and the West's actions in connection with the special operation," - Russia Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov
He did not clarify what this change might mean.
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russia does not provide a corridor for the evacuation of civilians in the kursk region, – the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
At the same time, according to Vadym Mysnyk, the spokesman of the "Siversk" OTUV, the russian army continues to bombard cities and villages with anti-aircraft missiles and drones – hitting places where there are no soldiers.
"They (local residents, - ed.) say that they want peace, that is out of politics, that everything stops or that they are given a corridor – the opportunity to leave the war zone, which russia does not give", –the spokesman said.
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Watch as Russia conducts a double tap strike on a subway in Kharkiv using Iskander missiles. One missile is launched and then several minutes later a second one is launched to strike any first responders who have arrived. A van can be seen pulling up to the scene as the strike occurs. A freeze frame from the video shows that this is clearly an Iskander missile. Kharkiv subways served as civilian bomb shelters for months early in the war, but are used less so now. This subway station is connected to a shopping mall.
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Posted on 9/1/24 at 11:04 am to VolSquatch
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quote: We did not challenge them in Crimea, so they invaded Ukraine. Now you say that had we not challenged them in Ukraine they would never ever have invaded anyone else? That seems far from obvious.
Well the point now is the continuation of aid we've already got them to this point. Part of the "knowing better in 2024" is that we live in a timeline where they have been given aid.
You chided me for using historical events to make a point. You like to ignore the past as if each new event is unique.
I remember learning about the Nazis. At first they took Austria without opposition. Then the west gave them Czecheoslovokia even though they had dug in and were ready to fight. Finally when the Nazis took Poland France and England acted.
Putin attacked Georgia and the west watched. Then he took Crimea and entered Donbas. There was little done although Obama sent blankets. Feb of 22 and Putin blows in to take Ukraine. Finally the West replied in a significant way.
Do you see the pattern?
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 9/1/24 at 12:27 pm to doubleb
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
01 September 2024
Russian Ground Forces (RGF) have accelerated their advance towards the eastern Ukrainian city of Pokrovsk over the last seven days. RGF are highly likely within ten kilometres from the edge of the city. The rate of advance is likely to slow as Russian ground forces enter Pokrovsk's built-up areas.
Pokrovsk serves as a key logistics hub for the Donetsk oblast and, if taken, is likely to lengthen and divert existing Ukrainian supply lines. This will likely make it more difficult for Ukrainian Armed Forces to resupply and manoeuvre resources quickly to several key strongholds between Chasiv Yar and Vulhedar.
The operational tempo of military activity has remained low on all other frontlines in eastern and southern Ukraine with no major significant changes in territorial control.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
01 September 2024
Russian Ground Forces (RGF) have accelerated their advance towards the eastern Ukrainian city of Pokrovsk over the last seven days. RGF are highly likely within ten kilometres from the edge of the city. The rate of advance is likely to slow as Russian ground forces enter Pokrovsk's built-up areas.
Pokrovsk serves as a key logistics hub for the Donetsk oblast and, if taken, is likely to lengthen and divert existing Ukrainian supply lines. This will likely make it more difficult for Ukrainian Armed Forces to resupply and manoeuvre resources quickly to several key strongholds between Chasiv Yar and Vulhedar.
The operational tempo of military activity has remained low on all other frontlines in eastern and southern Ukraine with no major significant changes in territorial control.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 3:43 pm to cypher
This looks more like a unit that converts sulfur to sulfuric acid. The sulfur is recovered from H2S received from hydrotreating and is used in sulfuric acid alkylation units for reformulated gasoline with the alkylate enhancing octane (RON) rating. Such a unit also uses spent sulfuric acid to regenerate it.
Tigris, help me out here as to what you might think.
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Tigris, help me out here as to what you might think.
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Posted on 9/1/24 at 4:53 pm to doubleb
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Do you see the pattern?
Weak world leaders lead to bad things?
Posted on 9/1/24 at 7:32 pm to CitizenK
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This looks more like a unit that converts sulfur to sulfuric acid.
That could easily be correct. But I know very little about refineries and barely a little about sulfuric acid plant. From what I do know (from 30 years ago being inside a sulfuric acid reactor), sulfuric acid reactors are large dome shaped vessels with very large outlet pipes at the top since it is a low pressure reactor. And it is a strongly exothermic reaction so a steam generation reactor makes sense, and video 2 seems to show that (small pipes in the bottom (water), larger out the top sides(steam)).
Interesting to see Ukraine hitting a refinery in Moscow. It's always hard to know what is going on in a war but with the Kursk invasion this seems a bit like Ukraine's Tet offensive (sorry, that reference was more than 50 years ago, and so irrelevant to some).
Posted on 9/1/24 at 7:43 pm to Tigris
Isw update Sept 1
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Key Takeaways:
Ukrainian forces reportedly conducted the largest series of drone strikes against targets within Russia on the night of August 31 to September 1.
Ukrainian forces continued to conduct assaults in Kursk Oblast on September 1, but there were no confirmed Ukrainian advances.
Recent Russian domestic polls suggest that Ukraine's incursion into Kursk Oblast has not yet degraded Russian domestic support of the war in Ukraine in the short-term following the Kursk incursion and that Russian support for the war has remained high since 2022.
Armenian Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan confirmed at an August 31 press conference that "Armenia has frozen its participation in the [Russian-led Collective Security Treaty Organization] CSTO at all levels," after Armenia has effectively abstained from participating in the CSTO for nearly a year.
Russian forces recently advanced north of Kharkiv City, southeast of Kupyansk, southeast of Pokrovsk, and southwest of Donetsk City.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 8:15 pm to Tigris
Short and fat unlike modern day hydrotreaters a single tall reactor. Old style was a series of short fat reactors
Posted on 9/1/24 at 11:23 pm to StormyMcMan
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Recent Russian domestic polls suggest that Ukraine's incursion into Kursk Oblast has not yet degraded Russian domestic support of the war in Ukraine in the short-term following the Kursk incursion and that Russian support for the war has remained high since 2022.
That’s because they are bogus polls.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 12:45 am to WeeWee
quote:Even if they had legitimate polls, with Russians they would get the same results:
That’s because they are bogus polls.
"I support the war" ______4%
"I don't support the war" __4%
"Please don't hurt me" ___92%
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:06 am to Coeur du Tigre
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That’s because they are bogus polls. Even if they had legitimate polls, with Russians they would get the same results: "I support the war" ______4% "I don't support the war" __4% "Please don't imprison me" ___92%
FIFY
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:11 am to WeeWee
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That’s because they are bogus polls.
The liberals are opposed to the war, and the large majority of the Jewish population appears to be opposed. But numerically, these are not large groups.
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incursion into Kursk Oblast has not yet degraded Russian domestic support of the war
It won’t, and I don’t understand why people think it would
Sacrifice is a core feature of their culture.They burned Moscow to defy Napoleon. And this is just a small slice of the countryside in Kursk.
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:19 am to WeeWee
"Wow" is an understatement. This goes hard.
Video is from the 3rd Assault Brigade (Azov). The first part shows the POV of the drone dropping the incendiary material, and the second is from an observing drone.
Video is from the 3rd Assault Brigade (Azov). The first part shows the POV of the drone dropping the incendiary material, and the second is from an observing drone.
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 6:36 am to GOP_Tiger
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"Wow" is an understatement.
Damn! That's a poor mans way to deliver the equivalent of napalm from the Vietnam era.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:16 am to GOP_Tiger
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Die Welt: For the first time in almost two years, EU countries purchased more gas from Russia than from the USA in a single quarter. From April to June, the EU bought 12.7 billion cubic meters of gas from Russia, compared to 12.3 billion cubic meters from the USA.
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Former convict Artur Kurshev, who fought in Storm-Z, has been arrested in the Leningrad region of the Russian Federation. He stabbed a girl to death for "calling him a fool".
In April 2023, Kurshev was sentenced to 9 years in prison for the murder of his friend, but he was released after being recruited into Storm-Z and sent to a war zone in Ukraine.
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Poland has right to shoot down Russian missiles over Ukraine for national security Polish FM says.
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JUST IN: Turkey has applied to join BRICS - Bloomberg
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Last night, rumors of a Ukrainian breakout in Kursk led to a friendly fire incident in the Russian rear area.
Russian milboggers report that a group of Russian militia "fired at everything that moved" on the critical Kursk-Lgov supply route, injuring several.
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??European funds more than doubled their investment in defense companies because of the war in Ukraine, — Financial Times.
According to the latest data from Morningstar Direct, investments in this sector increased from €3.2 billion in the first quarter of 2022 to €7.7 billion.
It is noted that this increase reflects the new priorities of European countries to strengthen their defense industry against the background of threats from the russian federation.
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According to Reuters, The Romanian government has today approved a draft law that allows for transferring a Patriot PAC-3 missile defense battery to Ukraine and has sent it to parliament for consideration. Once reviewed, the system can be operationally transferred to Ukraine.
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Kursk panic: War correspondent Roman Saponkov reports that after rumors circulated about Ukrainians breaking through to the Lgov-Kursk highway last night, local "self-defense" forces—armed civilians—opened friendly fire, nearly killing Russian soldiers. He says it's not the first time it happened.
There's more to this story now.
A Russian serviceman shared on Telegram about his interactions with the Kursk territorial defense. He described the situation as complete chaos, with the territorial defense forces more likely to harm each other than the Ukrainians.
Some members are in a constant state of paralysing panic, imagining Ukrainians everywhere and growing suspicious of their fellow Russians.
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?? JUST IN: Another Russian general has been detained
The Russian Investigative Committee has opened a criminal case against Major-General Valery Muminjanov, deputy commander of the Leningrad Military District for logistics, for taking a large-scale bribe.
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Ukrainian farmers will be fully compensated for the demining of their lands — 3 million hryvnias have been allocated for this in the state budget.
The Ministry of Economy adopted the relevant changes at the government meeting on August 23, 2024.
The sites must be inspected for mines and located outside a 20-kilometer zone from the front line or the state border.
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:42 am to doubleb
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You chided me for using historical events to make a point.
Actually I chided you for making one example from 50 years ago to try and make an economic point today. Especially when it involved today’s version of Russia which didn’t exist in the example you gave.
“You gave a bad example” isn’t “let’s just throw out history”
Posted on 9/2/24 at 7:44 am to VolSquatch
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Actually I chided you for making one example from 50 years ago to try and make an economic point today. Especially when it involved today’s version of Russia which didn’t exist in the example you gave.
“You gave a bad example” isn’t “let’s just throw out history”
Actually all you said was
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Cool example from half a century ago
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Shut up fig
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 8:17 am to StormyMcMan
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Actually all you said was quote:Cool example from half a century ago
And how does that throw out all of history exactly?
“Cool example” - singular example
“From half a century ago” - I.e. when the Soviet Union was around.
And the post was in response to an economic point.
All the relevant information is there with the context.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 8:17 am to StormyMcMan
Oh and Citizen K is a huge fig, that needed to be said. And that post wasn’t at all connected to the point you’re attempting to refute
Posted on 9/2/24 at 8:39 am to VolSquatch
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And that post wasn’t at all connected to the point you’re attempting to refute
Which is? Point out where I was refuting any point. I want exact quotes just like you always demand
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