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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:49 pm to cypher
Posted on 9/2/24 at 1:49 pm to cypher
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Foreign Minister Gabrielius Landsbergis has been one of the most vocal voices among Western top officials, calling for more decisive support for Ukraine and warning against Russian expansionism.
Lithuania like many of Russia's direct neighbors has bitter experience living under Russian heels. If I recall it right, the USSR moved quite a number of Russian there and that has been a flash point.
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Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:04 pm to Auburn1968
@NOELreports:
Ukraine is absolutely turning Sudzha into a fortress that can anchor control of the eastern part of the settlement. As I have mentioned, pushing Russia east out of FPV range of the town means that it's much safer to put guys on excavators to dig.
Ukraine is also still (slowly) pushing forward in the center of the salient.
I just wish that they could take Korenevo at the northwest edge of their control. They made another big attempt a couple of days ago, and it didn't work.
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The AFU has advanced east of Martynovka, Kursk region, based on geolocated footage. Ukrainian units will likely try to continue advancing southeast and cut off Russan forces in Pushkarnoe, Russkaya Konopel'ka and Agronom, with the latter maybe already under Ukrainian control. Also, geolocated footage shows that Ukraine is pushing inside Russkaya Konopel'ka up north.
Ukraine is absolutely turning Sudzha into a fortress that can anchor control of the eastern part of the settlement. As I have mentioned, pushing Russia east out of FPV range of the town means that it's much safer to put guys on excavators to dig.
Ukraine is also still (slowly) pushing forward in the center of the salient.
I just wish that they could take Korenevo at the northwest edge of their control. They made another big attempt a couple of days ago, and it didn't work.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:12 pm to Hateradedrink
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I mean you straight up ignored my question about where is the line that starts “Ukraine first” logic
Oh no, I’ve been “exposed” because I forgot to answer an unimportant question.
I would say if you were against Republicans wanting to fix the border issue before funding Ukraine further, that’s a pretty clear line for me. If you’re being disingenuous with the whole “we are only sending them old stuff” “it’s actually more expensive for us to keep the stuff we sent” argument, that applies because you’re being deceitful to help Ukraine. It’s pretty simple, you put Ukraine over American issues and you’re Ukraine First.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:23 pm to doubleb
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And after that they murdered their Czar and the entire family for losing snother war and ruining the economy.
The Russians were guilty of bad decisions in the lead up to the revolution, and the mistakes they made, the infighting, it opened the door for the Bolsheviks to take power. But the Russians can't be blamed for killing the Tsar and his family, it's not something they could have considered. The Bolsheviks did it
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Nicholas was made a saint for a reason, he died for his people, and that's why you see displays like this 100 years later
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:28 pm to VolSquatch
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The “gas lines” point was certainly an economic one. You went on your little “can’t give In to bullies” diatribe after that. My “cool example” comment was directly after the gas lines comment, not your other rant.
The gas lines were due to geopolitical alliances. Nations banded together to interupt the free flow of oil.
Geopolitics can bring about economic issues. I grant you that, but the key is politics.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:35 pm to doubleb
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Geopolitics can bring about economic issues. I grant you that, but the key is politics.
Yeah, maybe. The two certainly drive/feed off one another
Posted on 9/2/24 at 2:46 pm to VolSquatch
The gas lines led to the building of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve which was all but teats on a boar hog by the mid 1980's. They contain two grades of crude oil, the equivalent of Louisiana Light Sweet and Louisiana Light Sour, by an Act of Congress. By the Mid 1980s major refineries with access to the SPR had reconfigured for heavy and very heavy crude grades due a new product profit center. Thus the SPR wasn't needed like it was in the 1970s. A case can be easily made that the SPR has been a huge waste of money but in constructing and in annual maintenance costs. For the last decade it has been teats on a boar hog with no access by inland refineries and only serves for the global market, not the US market. Cheaper to send via ship to China than by truck, rail or barge to Illinois. No crude oil pipeline go inland any longer regardless of what a clueless public thinks.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 3:13 pm to CitizenK
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The gas lines led to the building of the Strategic Petroleum Reserve
Yes, but the SPR was and still is mostly political.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 4:22 pm to CitizenK
so basically the oil in the SPR cannot be refined in the US?
Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:26 pm to TigersnJeeps
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so basically the oil in the SPR cannot be refined in the US?
It can be refined in most any refinery but is more profitable elsewhere and why when it was bid on it went overseas. Exxon got a fair amount but sold to European refineries.
Profit centers of refineries have changed over the last almost 40+ years now. The refining process units which could have used it efficiently have mostly been demolished in the 1980's and 1990s and replaced or just aren't there any longer.
It was built to replace Mideast crude oil in case of embargo or the Straits of Hormuz being closed. That is a minor source of crude these days so we don't even need it. Even at present reduced capacity it exceeds the amount needed to be in reserve for any crude imported via ship.
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:36 pm to CitizenK
FWIW, we do have a treaty with IEA which expires in 2025 unless renewed, to keep 90 days supply. We have way more than that
It has only ever been used as either a tool to keep prices stable.
We lost one salt cavern in Addis in the early 1990s just like the Bayou Corne Sinkhole. An original site at Weeks Island had to be abandoned and oil transferred elsewhere.
It has only ever been used as either a tool to keep prices stable.
We lost one salt cavern in Addis in the early 1990s just like the Bayou Corne Sinkhole. An original site at Weeks Island had to be abandoned and oil transferred elsewhere.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 5:49 pm to CitizenK
So, in theory, it could still be used in some sort of national emergency - just not efficiently or (secondarily or tertiary in an emergency) as profitably.
Thanks for the explanation...
Thanks for the explanation...
Posted on 9/2/24 at 8:00 pm to TigersnJeeps
ISW Update Sept 2nd
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Key Takeaways:
Iran is expected to “imminently” deliver ballistic missiles to Russia to support the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
Russian President Vladimir Putin gave an interview to Mongolian outlet Unuudur ahead of his visit to Mongolia on September 2-3, emphasizing historical and modern Russian-Mongolian relations and current trilateral economic and energy initiatives with Mongolia and the People's Republic of China (PRC).
Russian and Mongolian officials indicated that the International Criminal Court (ICC) warrant for Putin's arrest will not impact Putin's ongoing visit to Mongolia, despite Mongolia's legal obligation to enforce this warrant.
Russian authorities detained Leningrad Military District (LMD) Deputy Commander Major General Valery Mumindzhanov on corruption charges on September 2.
Russian forces recently regained lost positions east of Korenevo amid continued Ukrainian assaults in Kursk Oblast on September 2.
Russian forces recently advanced in the Siversk, Chasiv Yar, and Pokrovsk directions and southwest of Donetsk City.
Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) officials are highlighting Russian military training capabilities, likely in an attempt to promote military recruitment and as part of long-term efforts to rebuild the Russian officer corps.
Russian occupation officials announced the start of the school year in occupied Ukraine, highlighting Russia's various efforts to coopt the educational system and forcibly Russify and militarize Ukrainian children and youth.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 9:01 pm to Lima Whiskey
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Nicholas was made a saint for a reason, he died for his people,
He died for his people only because Britain didn’t want to give him and his family asylum. Nicholas and his family were trying their hardest to escape Russia in between his abdication and the overthrow of the provisional government by the Bolsheviks.
Posted on 9/2/24 at 9:31 pm to TigersnJeeps
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So, in theory, it could still be used in some sort of national emergency - just not efficiently or (secondarily or tertiary in an emergency) as profitably.
Thanks for the explanation...
Refining capacity would go done by up to 10%.if Canadian imports stopped If we stopped exporting and refineries were forced to use more tight shale crude, then it would go down another 10%, maybe more. So it would definitely affect drivers and gas lines would be back in several parts of the nation just like in the 1970's.
A refinery has higher crude oil throughput the heavier the crude oil is. Thus a refinery with primary feed of Canadian will be over 10% higher capacity than what is in SPR. There would be less asphalt available. When certain profit centers dry up, that makes the cost to just breakeven in things like everything at the pump cost more, Typically refineries have very low profit margins if any
This post was edited on 9/2/24 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:22 pm to CitizenK
Posted on 9/2/24 at 10:43 pm to Jim Rockford
One of these guys actually made a good point. Nuclear war is just one of many apocalyptic scenarios in the modern world, and it's less exotic than some. It's lost its mystique; it's a fear of the last century. Why worry about nuclear incineration when you can worry about being hunted by AI powered drones or dying of bioengineered viruses.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 12:25 am to Jim Rockford
Latest:
Right in the center of the line.....while ukranians are off wandering in the hinterlands. I know, I know, the ukes took four times that territory in Russia. Yep, Russia is bearing down on Washington DC and ukes are bragging about the territory they took in Wyoming.
BBC did a story on visiting secret army training centers for ukraine. Very professionally done but the reporter said one thing struck him.......most of the new soldiers being trained were in their 40s and 50s.
Why wont ukraine at least try and defend the center of their line instead of wasting time in the middle of nowhere up north?
And what are they doing with the patriot missile systems, the same thing they did with the f-16s. Russia is raining down on most major cities, including Kyiv now.
zelensky needs to sit down now before he doesnt have anything to negotiate with.
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Russia advanced on 477 sq km (184 sq miles) of Ukrainian territory in August, Moscow’s biggest monthly increase since October 2022, according to data supplied by the Institute for the Study of War and analysed by the AFP news agency.
Right in the center of the line.....while ukranians are off wandering in the hinterlands. I know, I know, the ukes took four times that territory in Russia. Yep, Russia is bearing down on Washington DC and ukes are bragging about the territory they took in Wyoming.
BBC did a story on visiting secret army training centers for ukraine. Very professionally done but the reporter said one thing struck him.......most of the new soldiers being trained were in their 40s and 50s.
Why wont ukraine at least try and defend the center of their line instead of wasting time in the middle of nowhere up north?
And what are they doing with the patriot missile systems, the same thing they did with the f-16s. Russia is raining down on most major cities, including Kyiv now.
zelensky needs to sit down now before he doesnt have anything to negotiate with.
Posted on 9/3/24 at 1:31 am to trinidadtiger
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zelensky needs to sit down now before he doesnt have anything to negotiate with.
You seem obsessed with this idea. Putin has said negotiations are impossible. So who would Zelensky sit down with?
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Why wont ukraine at least try and defend the center of their line
If Ukraine isn't defending the center of their line, why isn't Russia rolling through to accomplish all of its objectives and end the war?
And -- for like the 10th time -- what are the Russian army objectives?
You always seem to know what Ukraine is doing. And what they should be doing.
So, tell us: What's Russia doing?
Posted on 9/3/24 at 2:05 am to No Colors
You should just give up with him. There's no cure for mental retardation.
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