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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:23 pm to Penrod
Posted on 8/31/24 at 2:23 pm to Penrod
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If we had let this Ukraine invasion go unopposed would Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan be next?
The answer is very clearly no. Even without help they repelled the initial attack. Russia has proven themselves incapable of mass conquest, and it’s pretty silly to still push the “if we don’t stop them here” point in 2024 when we know better
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Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:09 pm to VolSquatch
Russian forces "wiping out" Kursk Oblast's Sudzha with bombs, Ukrainian general says
by Kateryna Denisova August 31, 2024 9:36 PM
Russian troops are “wiping" the Ukrainian-captured town of Sudzha in Russia's Kursk Oblast "off the face of the earth", Oleksandr Pavliuk, commander of Ukraine's Ground Forces, said on Aug. 31.
Russia is regularly shelling Sudzha and attacking it with guided aerial bombs and kamikaze drones, according to Pavliuk.
As Kyiv's incursion into Kursk Oblast enters its fourth week, Ukraine reportedly controls over 1,290 square kilometers (500 square miles) and 100 settlements, Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi said on Aug. 27.
The Kyiv Independent could not verify these claims.
"(Russian forces) are destroying their own people. Despite the fact that Sudzha is in the rear, the Russians are wiping it off the face of the earth," Pavliuk said.
About 200 residents remain in Sudzha, which had a population of 5,000 before the incursion, the general said. Most of them are elderly.
The Kyiv Independent
by Kateryna Denisova August 31, 2024 9:36 PM
Russian troops are “wiping" the Ukrainian-captured town of Sudzha in Russia's Kursk Oblast "off the face of the earth", Oleksandr Pavliuk, commander of Ukraine's Ground Forces, said on Aug. 31.
Russia is regularly shelling Sudzha and attacking it with guided aerial bombs and kamikaze drones, according to Pavliuk.
As Kyiv's incursion into Kursk Oblast enters its fourth week, Ukraine reportedly controls over 1,290 square kilometers (500 square miles) and 100 settlements, Commander-in-Chief Oleksandr Syrskyi said on Aug. 27.
The Kyiv Independent could not verify these claims.
"(Russian forces) are destroying their own people. Despite the fact that Sudzha is in the rear, the Russians are wiping it off the face of the earth," Pavliuk said.
About 200 residents remain in Sudzha, which had a population of 5,000 before the incursion, the general said. Most of them are elderly.
The Kyiv Independent
Posted on 8/31/24 at 3:19 pm to VolSquatch
Germany lost WWI because its economy collapsed. It had whooped the phuck out of Russia and a stalemate on the Western Front.
Poor little boy got all flustered
Poor little boy got all flustered
Posted on 8/31/24 at 4:46 pm to VolSquatch
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Russia has proven themselves incapable of mass conquest, and it’s pretty silly to still push the “if we don’t stop them here” point in 2024 when we know better
Russia was “stopped” initially because Ukraine had been loaded down with Western military equipment and because Russia had to work the kinks out of all their equipment failures and other residue of decades of graft.
I agree with your point when it comes to threatening to the West, but we are talking about threats to the South and East. Far from “knowing better”, we know it’s an established fact. We did not challenge them in Georgia, then they invaded Crimea. We did not challenge them in Crimea, so they invaded Ukraine. Now you say that had we not challenged them in Ukraine they would never ever have invaded anyone else? That seems far from obvious.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:05 pm to GOP_Tiger
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So, apparently the internet is awash with unsubstantiated rumors that Lavrov is dead?
An interview of him appeared on RT today, but of course it may have been recorded some other time.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 5:52 pm to Jim Rockford
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RT
Kremlin funded Russia Today.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 7:56 pm to CitizenK
ISW Update Aug 31
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Key Takeaways:
The Russian military command may have redeployed limited elements intended to reinforce Russia's priority offensive operation in the Pokrovsk direction to defend against the Ukrainian incursion in Kursk Oblast — suggesting that operational pressures from the Ukrainian incursion in Kursk Oblast are impacting Russian operations in every sector throughout the theater.
Ukrainian forces continued to conduct assaults in Kursk Oblast on August 31, but there were no confirmed or claimed Ukrainian advances.
Ukrainian Defense Minister Rustem Umerov reported on August 30 that Russian forces continue to use airfields in Russia within Ukrainian ATACMS range — further highlighting how US restrictions against Ukraine's use of US-provided weapons to strike military targets in Russia are allowing Russia to leverage sanctuary space in deep rear areas to support military operations against Ukraine.
The Russian military command reportedly reorganized the Donetsk and Luhansk People’s Republics’ (DNR and LNR) 1st and 2nd army corps (AC) to create two new combined arms armies (CAA): the 51st CAA and 3rd CAA, respectively.
The Kremlin continues efforts to define Russia's traditional and cultural values as part of ongoing efforts to codify a Russian state ideology.
The Ukrainian Armed Forces Center for Strategic Communications (StratCom) announced on August 31 that Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief General Oleksandr Syrskyi officially appointed Captain First Rank Roman Hladkyi as the Chief of Staff of the newly created Unmanned Systems Forces.
Russian forces recently advanced near Chasiv Yar, Pokrovsk, and Donetsk City.
Russian forces are reportedly unable to fight in Ukraine at full strength due to manpower and equipment shortages that resulted from the Kremlin’s ineffective wartime policies.
Posted on 8/31/24 at 10:41 pm to StormyMcMan
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Ukrainian drones successfully hit the Russian Konakovo Power Station outside of Moscow this evening.
The facility, Russia's 8th largest thermal powerplant, is currently wreathed in smoke and flames.
LINK
Posted on 8/31/24 at 11:31 pm to CitizenK
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Ukraine's representative to the United Nations, Sergiy Kyslytsya, has made a provocative statement, hinting that Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov may have died, according to Kyslytsya's statement on the social media platform X.
On August 31, Kyslytsya wrote that for Russian war criminals, a natural death would be a form of salvation. He explained that this would allow them to go straight to hell, bypassing purgatory.
In his post, Kyslytsya included a photo of Lavrov. He then suggested that rumors are circulating about the Russian Foreign Minister's death, although he did not mention Lavrov by name. Kyslytsya concluded his post by saying that he would prefer Lavrov to be alive, so he could see him in the defendant's chair.
"For some Russian war criminals to die in their bed in an elite suburban Landshaft community may seem to be the easiest way out. Even if they omit the dock, they will go directly to hell to burn there for eternity bypassing purgatory … Some say he has already kicked the bucket, and yet ironically I wish he was alive to see him in the dock …," Kyslytsya said.
There has been no official information confirming the death of the Russian Foreign Minister.
On Thursday, August 29, Lavrov participated in a joint press conference in Moscow with Senegalese Foreign Minister Yassine Fall. Moreover, today, Russian Telegram channels and state media outlets have published statements attributed to Lavrov himself. He notably stated that Russia would not negotiate with Ukraine over the Kursk region.
"We do not discuss our territory with anyone," Lavrov said.
He further added that Russia considers four Ukrainian regions — Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson — to be part of its territory.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 2:41 am to CitizenK
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:02 am to Obtuse1
LiveUAmap has a thread showing a significant number of hits. So far, the most impactful seem to be the Moscow oil refinery and power station. I say that not in view of the level of damage (unknown at this time), but rather in view of the fact that bringing the war directly to the citizens of Moscow is a strategic aim.
If Ukraine can regularly hit targets inside Moscow itself, that will have a direct effect on Russian morale.
If Ukraine can regularly hit targets inside Moscow itself, that will have a direct effect on Russian morale.
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Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:38 am to StormyMcMan
Ukrainian General Staff (GSUA) data for August show that combat clashes within Ukraine are reaching 215 per day, all-time highs.
However, what is interesting is that at the same time Russian military equipment losses are falling considerably. Losses of tanks, IFVs, IMVs and towed artillery are all down by close to 25% compared to July.
Much to unpack in the full data, but there are only two options: the Russians are getting vastly better at protecting their front line equipment, or they are running out of replacements.
LINK
However, what is interesting is that at the same time Russian military equipment losses are falling considerably. Losses of tanks, IFVs, IMVs and towed artillery are all down by close to 25% compared to July.
Much to unpack in the full data, but there are only two options: the Russians are getting vastly better at protecting their front line equipment, or they are running out of replacements.
LINK
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:50 am to Coeur du Tigre
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Much to unpack in the full data, but there are only two options: the Russians are getting vastly better at protecting their front line equipment, or they are running out of replacements.
There's a lot of evidence that Russia is again resorting to "meat attacks."
I really think that Putin's plan was simply to go all-out to take as much of Ukraine as possible by the November election, hoping that Trump would win and shut down all aid to Ukraine, and then Putin could essentially freeze the conflict and keep his new territories.
That now looks like a bad plan for a number of reasons, most obviously because he can't simply freeze a conflict with Ukraine in control of significant Russian territory.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 5:59 am to GOP_Tiger
quote:And there's the other reason his plan will fail.
I really think that Putin's plan was simply to go all-out to take as much of Ukraine as possible by the November election, hoping that Trump would win and shut down all aid to Ukraine, and then Putin could essentially freeze the conflict and keep his new territories.
That now looks like a bad plan for a number of reasons, most obviously because he can't simply freeze a conflict with Ukraine in control of significant Russian territory.
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hoping that Trump would win
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:21 am to Coeur du Tigre
Well, anyone predicting the outcome of the presidential election is just guessing, as it's absolutely a 50-50 race right now. Yes, Harris is leading in national polls, but Trump has about a 2% advantage in the electoral college.
Nevertheless, Trump was about 75% to beat Biden, so Putin's odds are less.
But, as we have discussed many times, if Trump wins, he will immediately have to deal with a House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader who are strongly pro-Ukraine and absolutely want restrictions removed on the Ukrainian use of US equipment. Ukraine matters more to men such as Sen. Cotton and Sen. Graham than it does to Trump.
Most of the leftist idiots claiming that Trump will do Putin's bidding don't even really believe that -- it's simply a talking point to try to get people to vote for Harris.
But I am sorry for even referencing the US election in my post above this one, as we will now have several pages of unrelated discussion.
Nevertheless, Trump was about 75% to beat Biden, so Putin's odds are less.
But, as we have discussed many times, if Trump wins, he will immediately have to deal with a House Speaker and Senate Majority Leader who are strongly pro-Ukraine and absolutely want restrictions removed on the Ukrainian use of US equipment. Ukraine matters more to men such as Sen. Cotton and Sen. Graham than it does to Trump.
Most of the leftist idiots claiming that Trump will do Putin's bidding don't even really believe that -- it's simply a talking point to try to get people to vote for Harris.
But I am sorry for even referencing the US election in my post above this one, as we will now have several pages of unrelated discussion.
This post was edited on 9/1/24 at 6:22 am
Posted on 9/1/24 at 6:22 am to Obtuse1
The first Russian I ever met was the refinery manager for this Moscow refinery back in 1992. He was brought by Finnish and Swedish brokers to Shell's Carson site of its Wilmington, CA refinery. HIs only words spoken in English were "Thank you Mr. Roosevelt" for the 3 each Naphtha Desulfurizers identical the one there built in 1943. They were all built by CF Braun, Alhambra, CA.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 7:02 am to CitizenK
Largest Ukrainian Drone Assault Sparks Fires at Two Power Plants and Oil Refinery in Moscow Region
Russia experienced its largest drone assault, with 158 Ukrainian drones targeting multiple regions. The scale of the strike suggests a significant escalation in Ukraine's drone capabilities.
by Kyiv Post | September 1, 2024, 10:08 am
Russia experienced its largest drone assault since the full-scale invasion began, with 158 Ukrainian drones targeting multiple regions, according to a statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense.
The true number of drones may be even higher, as suggested by reports from regional authorities.
A local official in the Moscow region said three drones had tried to hit the Kashira coal-fired power station.
"There were no victims nor damages," he said, adding that electricity was still reaching clients "correctly".
However, the footage filmed by the residents suggest that the drone attack caused explosions and fire at the power plant.
Russian news agencies also reported a fire at the Moscow oil refinery in Kapotnya; videos from the site also suggested a drone strike on the oil depot. In spite of this, mayor Sergei Sobyanin said there was "no damage or casualties".
Another fire broke out at a Konakovo power plant in the Tver region. The Konakovo GRES is one of the largest power plants in the Central part of Russia, the 8th largest thermal power plant in the country.
According to the Ministry of Defense, drones were shot down over 15 regions, with the highest concentrations in the Kursk (46), Bryansk (34), and Voronezh (28) regions. Despite the defense measures, the attacks resulted in critical infrastructure fires.
The Kyiv Post
Russia experienced its largest drone assault, with 158 Ukrainian drones targeting multiple regions. The scale of the strike suggests a significant escalation in Ukraine's drone capabilities.
by Kyiv Post | September 1, 2024, 10:08 am
Russia experienced its largest drone assault since the full-scale invasion began, with 158 Ukrainian drones targeting multiple regions, according to a statement from the Russian Ministry of Defense.
The true number of drones may be even higher, as suggested by reports from regional authorities.
A local official in the Moscow region said three drones had tried to hit the Kashira coal-fired power station.
"There were no victims nor damages," he said, adding that electricity was still reaching clients "correctly".
However, the footage filmed by the residents suggest that the drone attack caused explosions and fire at the power plant.
Russian news agencies also reported a fire at the Moscow oil refinery in Kapotnya; videos from the site also suggested a drone strike on the oil depot. In spite of this, mayor Sergei Sobyanin said there was "no damage or casualties".
Another fire broke out at a Konakovo power plant in the Tver region. The Konakovo GRES is one of the largest power plants in the Central part of Russia, the 8th largest thermal power plant in the country.
According to the Ministry of Defense, drones were shot down over 15 regions, with the highest concentrations in the Kursk (46), Bryansk (34), and Voronezh (28) regions. Despite the defense measures, the attacks resulted in critical infrastructure fires.
The Kyiv Post
Posted on 9/1/24 at 8:28 am to cypher
2,500 MW capacity built in 1962 and originally fueled by Mazut (heavy fuel oil) converted to natural gas in the 1980's. Steam boilers with steam turbine driven generators. Ukraine may being doing Russia a favor, annual maintenance costs must be out the wazoo.
Posted on 9/1/24 at 9:25 am to Penrod
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We did not challenge them in Crimea, so they invaded Ukraine. Now you say that had we not challenged them in Ukraine they would never ever have invaded anyone else? That seems far from obvious.
Well the point now is the continuation of aid we've already got them to this point. Part of the "knowing better in 2024" is that we live in a timeline where they have been given aid.
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