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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:23 pm to NC_Tigah
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:23 pm to NC_Tigah
It’s been a really rough week for the “I really hate what Russia is doing but Ukraine should surrender because defense is senseless :(“ faux intelligentsia crowd
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:27 pm to GOP_Tiger
This is what Russia is resigning itself to. These fortifications are some 45 km from Ukraine.
Today, Ukraine has significantly expanded the salient to the west. Korenevo, at the northwestern edge of the salient, is a town of some 6,000 people -- actually a big larger than the "city" of Sudzha -- and Korenevo is a key point of Russian resistance right now. Rather than waste troops in costly assaults, Ukraine is simply working on surrounding the city. And as they move west (just south of Korenevo), it cuts off all the Russian troops between them and the Ukrainian border, and that's enabled Ukraine to take probably another 100 sq. km. in that area in the last 24 hours.
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Today, Ukraine has significantly expanded the salient to the west. Korenevo, at the northwestern edge of the salient, is a town of some 6,000 people -- actually a big larger than the "city" of Sudzha -- and Korenevo is a key point of Russian resistance right now. Rather than waste troops in costly assaults, Ukraine is simply working on surrounding the city. And as they move west (just south of Korenevo), it cuts off all the Russian troops between them and the Ukrainian border, and that's enabled Ukraine to take probably another 100 sq. km. in that area in the last 24 hours.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:32 pm to GOP_Tiger
Like I said, Russia knows now that they aren't going to be able to stop Ukraine from taking all this territory to the west of the current salient.
From @wartranslated:
Russia is going to try to hold south of the E38 highway and the railway that runs along the same route. Everything south of that is going to be Ukrainian for a while.
From @wartranslated:
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The mandatory evacuation in the Kursk region has been expanded to the entire Glushkovsky district.
Russia is going to try to hold south of the E38 highway and the railway that runs along the same route. Everything south of that is going to be Ukrainian for a while.
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:45 pm to GOP_Tiger
Here's Tendar's map showing the current salient and the new, mandatory evacuation:
If the current salient is about 1000 sq. kms., then taking this land to the west will eventually double it. And I now think that it's only a matter of time.
I still don't know what's going to happen on the eastern edge of the salient, though. That could end up going several ways. But the first thing that has to happen there is that Ukraine needs to take Giri. We'll then have to see what happens to the bridge over the Psel River to guess the next steps.
If the current salient is about 1000 sq. kms., then taking this land to the west will eventually double it. And I now think that it's only a matter of time.
I still don't know what's going to happen on the eastern edge of the salient, though. That could end up going several ways. But the first thing that has to happen there is that Ukraine needs to take Giri. We'll then have to see what happens to the bridge over the Psel River to guess the next steps.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:49 pm to No Colors
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Putin doesn't speak or understand English.
Putin speaks very good English. This is a video of him speaking English 12 years ago
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Putin claims to not speak or understand English still to this day. Proof otherwise doesn't matter to him.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 5:52 pm to Penrod
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Houston is huge!
Ukraine may well have taken the same amount, or more, of Kursk as the City of Houston, or half the size of Harris County at end of today.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 6:01 pm to CitizenK
Here's the latest map from @liveuamap. I went ahead and circled in yellow the largest gains from the last 24 hours. I also circled in blue the towns of Kerenovo in the northwest and Giri in the east, which I consider to be the key areas of Russian defense.

Posted on 8/14/24 at 6:14 pm to GOP_Tiger
I don't really know anything and just thinking out loud so forgive me in advance. But if Ukraine cannot or does not want to hold the positions in Russia could they pull back, turn around going back into Ukraine and come up behind the Russians somewhere? I'm sure I am simplifying it but just curious.
Edit: I guess the Kursk area is too far north and west for this? Unless Ukraine were able to move more east along the border?
Edit: I guess the Kursk area is too far north and west for this? Unless Ukraine were able to move more east along the border?
This post was edited on 8/14/24 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 8/14/24 at 6:50 pm to GOP_Tiger
You like saying salient. Does it make you feel like a pretend General?
Posted on 8/14/24 at 7:09 pm to SiriusBraveFan
No because to do a big maneuver like that extends the logistics train that has to follow a force that is around 15,000 men like Ukraine has in Kursk. It’s not just the troops but also the fuel to keep the 750 or so armored vehicles moving as well. This was well planned by Ukraine. Russia just wants to protect the rail lines and the nuclear power plant in the area which is why they are digging so far back from where the Ukrainians are. This is a bargaining chip at the negotiating table so Ukraine has to eventually dig in themselves to hold the ground because Putin will eventually send endless meat waves to try to take it back.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 7:13 pm to LSUPilot07
Checked in on telegram. Kind of figured they would be raining glide bombs and cruise missles on them. Didn't see any pics or video of that. Lots of damaged equipment from both sides for sure
Posted on 8/14/24 at 7:23 pm to GOP_Tiger
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If tweet fails to load, click here. Why would the Russians brag about this?
Posted on 8/14/24 at 7:44 pm to Tiger985
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You like saying salient. Does it make you feel like a pretend General?
Bless your heart. I can't imagine trying so hard to cope that the best I could do would be to randomly attack a poster for using words that were hard for me to understand.
I'll tell you what: for the next few days, I'll just call it the big-arse area inside Russia that Ukraine controls. Hopefully, that will be easier for you to understand.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 8:32 pm to GOP_Tiger
Ukraine has lost another one of its young fighter pilots in 27 year old Captain Oleksandr Myhula. He was downed in combat by either a Su-35 or Su-30 firing a R37 long range air to air missile. Sadly the Mig-29 he was flying had nothing close to the range in missiles or in radar range compared to the more modern Russian jets. He went down fighting though as any fighter pilot would prefer if they had to. RIP and prayers for his family. They should be damn proud.
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 8:35 pm to No Colors
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They were like: I would do anything for my wife. I would do anything for my kids. I would do anything for my farm. And I would do almost anything for my neighbors and my community. But, Canada? I mean. I wouldn't do a fricking thing for Canada.....what's Canada? Most people around the world feel the same way.
I guess that’s the difference between us and the world because that makes my brain hurt. We have plenty of problems that could go beyond problems at anytime, however it could be the USA VS the world and the majority of people in this country would be screaming frick the world.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 8:37 pm to LSUPilot07
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THE MOTIVATION OF RUSSIAN ORCS BASED ON WHAT A UKRAINIAN SOLDIER HAS WITNESSED OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS
Let's start with how enemy infantry assaults are carried out. At first, a group of about 30 to 40 Russian infantrymen gathers at the initial position, from where they start moving towards our Ukrainian positions, their ultimate goal being the takeover of the dead forest we are entrenched in.
Of course, our pilots notice this group at the beginning of its movement and the orcs end up going the entire distance while under our constant mortar and automatic grenade launcher fire. They’re also being bombed by drones and hit by first-person vision drones (if available). When they get closer, our infantry opens assault rifle and machine gun fire, but the movement of Russians does not stop for a minute. In the end, three to five zombies reach the final goal and immediately hide in what is left of the forest.
One day, I saw them go across the field in a scattered manner. It turned out that our automatic grenade launcher was not properly sight-adjusted to the field and the lack of landmarks made the process very difficult. So a dozen or so soldiers reached our dead forest. The next day, they tried to repeat this tactic, and they all ended up dead.
After the number of scumbags in our forest reaches 10 to 15, they begin to cluster. Sometimes they come to our positions in search of their own guys and are taken prisoners (although very often, they do not surrender and instead engage in combat and die very quickly). Sometimes they explode on their own antipersonnel mines and lie there for several days, disturbing our soldiers’ sleep with their moans. But sooner or later, they gather a group and renew their assault.
If the assault fails, the survivors roll back to their holes where they hide and wait for the next group. They sit there without water and food, yet they take no course of action to change their situation. Sometimes, if our guys have an opportunity, the infantry clears the forest from the orcs that have broken through. But this does not stop the process, as every day a new enemy group leaves its starting position, sometimes several times a day, depending on the availability of reinforcements.
Sooner or later they manage to take over our positions, not because they are super stormtroopers, but because they’re aided by artillery fire, bombing, mortars and drones. The infantry on the ground reaches its destination and starts digging. This practice is also very interesting.
Two fools come out with shovels, sometimes even without wearing body armor, and start pounding away at the ground. After about half an hour they are either killed or wounded. But then two more come in and continue the process. At the same time, two more fools drag a log through the forest. They come under fire, but two more run after them, pick up the log and drag it further. At the same time, another group of stormtroopers starts moving. This ant hill movement exhausts our mortar and automatic grenade launcher ammo. Our drone pilots fly non-stop, but they don't even have time to recharge their batteries and eventually the moment comes when the scumbags prevail unpunished.
Zombie apocalypse movies, although exaggerated, convey the atmosphere of what is happening. Nothing stops them. If they can still move, they continue to advance in our direction.
Some say that the Russians are fighting for money. But I don't see it that way because I don't understand how much money you have to pay someone to get them to end their own life. It is said that in order to understand a person, you need to put yourself in their shoes, so I tried:
Here I am, a Russian soldier, at the initial position, and the assault begins. There are a couple of dozen corpses scattered around, but our group keeps moving. It goes along the dead forest and all around along the way there are dead bodies. Some have been dead for so long that they’ve already turned into bones. Then, we come under fire and a part of our group dies. But I keep running, jumping over the dead bodies, whose numbers don’t diminish. A first-person vision drone arrives and kills a couple more people from our group. Everyone scatters across the field, but there are 400 meters left to the goal and I make the last dash. During the sprint, the rest of the group comes under machine gun fire and only three of the initial thirty guys reach the forest. All the rest are either dead or wounded. By the end of the day, they will all die.
Then I'll have to lie in a crater under a fallen tree, covered with two dead bodies left over from the previous assault and hope that I will live to see the arrival of reinforcements — one or two more similarly motivated, suicide-destined fools. I forgot to mention the smell. I would give a lot to forget th? stench.
But enough of exploring the Russian war mindset.
At our position, there were more than forty dead bodies of Russian orcs — those who managed to reach us but did n
Full article here
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Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:12 pm to Jim Rockford
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CNN has uncovered online job vacancies for trench diggers in Russia’s Kursk region, as satellite imagery shows a new trench system has been dug in the region.
“Friends, they asked me to publish this announcement from Kurchatov,” said one user in a group called Typical Lgov on the Russian social media website Vkontakte. Kurchakov is a nearby town adjacent to the Kursk nuclear power plant.
“We need people to dig trenches in Lgov. They also have equipment but no drivers. Payment every week,” it added.
Meanwhile, a construction company in the distant region of Bashkortostan posted a job listing on the website Avito, announcing that workers are needed for digging trenches in Kursk region. It said workers would be paid between $1,600 to $4,000 a month.
“We provide: Three meals a day; All necessary tools; Work clothes; Transportation to the place of work at the expense of the company,” the advertisement said.
What do you bet that after they dig the ditch they'll get handed a rifle and told to defend it.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:18 pm to bigjoe1
I would make it rain cluster shells or ATACMS on those trench diggers and their equipment.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:20 pm to LSUPilot07
Me too. That's why I bet they don't tell them they're gonna be defending it.
Posted on 8/14/24 at 9:49 pm to bigjoe1
ISW Update Aug 14th
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Key Takeaways:
Russian milbloggers claimed that Ukrainian forces marginally advanced in Kursk Oblast amid a generally slower tempo of Ukrainian operations as Russian forces continue attempts to stabilize the frontline in the area.
Ukrainian officials continue to discuss ongoing Ukrainian operations in Kursk Oblast and offer their interpretations of the political impact that Ukraine may aim to generate.
Ongoing Ukrainian operations in Kursk Oblast are generating tangible defensive, logistical, and security impacts within Russia.
The Russian government continues recruitment efforts to support operations in Kursk Oblast.
Chechen Akhmat Spetsnaz Commander Apty Alaudinov seems to be posturing himself as the spokesperson for the Russian defense in Kursk Oblast, but his claims have consistently been false and largely contradict claims made by relatively reliable Russian milbloggers.
Ukrainian forces conducted a large series of drone strikes against Russian air bases in Russia on the night of August 13 to 14, damaging several airfields.
Georgia’s ruling Georgian Dream party furthered a narrative echoing a Kremlin information operation meant to justify Russia’s violence against the territorial integrity and sovereignty of states formerly colonized by the Soviet Union and Russian Empire.
Russian forces advanced north of Kharkiv City and southeast of Pokrovsk.
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