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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:28 am to CitizenK
Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:28 am to CitizenK
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In all fairness, the same was said about Irish immigrants, then about Italian immigrants.
Yet they became assimilated and ultimately patriots. Too many of the current Muslim immigrants will do all in their power not to assimilate and adopt American values.
What happened in Lebanon is a lesson that shouldn't be down played.
(Sorry for the side-track)
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 10:44 am to GOP_Tiger
Had to be said. Thanks. It's one poster in general and this thread was much better before his arrival a couple months ago
Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:02 am to AU86
Deployment of the HAWK medium range missile systems in Ukraine. It's been a couple of decades since they were in service in the US and there would seem to be a massive trove in storage. Still said to be 80% effective. They are relatively small, concealable and fairly easy to move around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QzKyxR38k4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QzKyxR38k4
Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:37 am to Auburn1968
Putin is asserting that Orban is visiting him in capacity as (rotating) chairman of the EU... but the EU's position on the War in Ukraine forbids contact between its officials and Russia... but this will repeated by some, as especially within Russia, as some sign that the EU supports Putin...
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Posted on 7/5/24 at 12:44 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The third German Patriot system is a huge deal for Ukraine. Again, the German systems are truck-mounted and mobile, and they are used near the front to keep Russian aircraft (especially bombers) at a distance. The US-supplied system is stationary and protects Kyiv.
Now, in addition to that news, we get this, from Politico:
All of this is of critical importance. Along with F-16s, air defense must protect Ukraine so that they can repair their electric grid and other infrastructure that was so badly damaged when Ukraine ran out of missiles interceptors. On that note, the $2.2 billion in Patriot and NASAMS missiles announced earlier in the week by the Biden administration is also critical.
It appears that Ukraine is going to get the air defense assets it needs to protect the country. And the F-16s should be there any day now.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:09 pm to GOP_Tiger
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F-16s
I'm curious about their strategy for protecting F-16. It seems like they could take two angles
1) multiple dispersed, low profile bases with multiple storage hangars. Planes coming and going in random patterns. Hundreds of possibilities etc.
2) place them all in a central base and park a shite pile of Patriots and other AAA batteries there and just basically challenge Russia to do something about it.
Or maybe some sort of combination with multiple layers of decoys etc.
No doubt there will be a great book (or 10) written about F-16s in Ukraine in 5 or 10 years. The right strategy will be obvious then. It's just not so obvious right now.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 1:41 pm to No Colors
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I'm curious about their strategy for protecting F-16.
It took Russia over 2 years to hit several jets which had been sitting outside for over 5 years (for parts)
Posted on 7/5/24 at 2:46 pm to No Colors
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I'm curious about their strategy for protecting F-16. It seems like they could take two angles
1) multiple dispersed, low profile bases with multiple storage hangars. Planes coming and going in random patterns. Hundreds of possibilities etc.
2) place them all in a central base and park a shite pile of Patriots and other AAA batteries there and just basically challenge Russia to do something about it.
Or maybe some sort of combination with multiple layers of decoys etc.
I'm sure LSUPilot will have thoughts, but mine is that:
- Your Option #2: there will be a main base somewhere in Western Ukraine, with hardened bunkers and air defense to protect it, and
- Your Option #1: planes will regularly operate from several forward bases.
The problem, of course, is that the F-16 has such demanding runway requirements, as we discussed two years ago. The runway has to be very smooth, with absolutely zero debris. These aren't Gripens. The result is that Ukraine will likely be unable to keep these F-16s widely dispersed.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 3:02 pm to No Colors
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1) multiple dispersed, low profile bases with multiple storage hangars. Planes coming and going in random patterns. Hundreds of possibilities etc.
Petraeus suggested dispersal using roads as air strips. He noted that keeping the road clean would be important so as not to suck trash into that big jet engine's mouth.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 3:08 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The problem, of course, is that the F-16 has such demanding runway requirements,
My guess is that this is part of a disinformation campaign.
Yes they have relatively light landing gear. And the engines are susceptible to foreign objects. But these problems may be easier to overcome than we think.
So maybe a big smooth base in western Ukraine as the obvious choice. With some F-16 coming and going. But more of them dispersed than you would think.
Whatever we hear in the press is what the military intelligence wants us to hear. And what it wants Russia to hear as well.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 4:32 pm to No Colors
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My guess is that this is part of a disinformation campaign.
Yes they have relatively light landing gear. And the engines are susceptible to foreign objects. But these problems may be easier to overcome than we think.
I'm quite sure that Ukraine has the equipment and know how to make a freshly paved road and keep it clean. Might need to make the freshly paved road appear old and cracked with a little camo-art.
Decoys could be placed on obviously fresh blacktop.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:04 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Those of you trying to turn this thread into the Poliboard suck.
This board ran off the Ukraine/Russia track quite a while back. It's not Poliboard participants doing it.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:25 pm to DMAN1968
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It's not Poliboard participants doing it.
It kind of is. Politards are special like that
Posted on 7/5/24 at 6:27 pm to DMAN1968
Would have to agree. It's obvious who it is
Posted on 7/5/24 at 9:41 pm to ticklechain
When this topic first appeared the posters appealed to Chicken to let it be for just talking about the war. For those that did not talk about the war, Chicken would warn. But the people that usually spoke soley about the war gradually allowed the politics to come in by discussing the political topics with them. So began the mixture of talks of the war, politics, history, dead cats and so forth. But, its kinda understandable since the actual battles with a lot of news has decreased.
Posted on 7/5/24 at 11:13 pm to jeffsdad
Posted on 7/6/24 at 12:15 am to DMAN1968
quote:hahahahahaha
It's not Poliboard participants doing it.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 6:20 am to WestCoastAg
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Russian President Vladimir Putin used a meeting with Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban on July 5 to oppose a negotiated ceasefire altogether and expressed his commitment to pursuing a "final" end to the war that would achieve his goal of destroying Ukrainian statehood.
Putin is demanding both the surrender of a significant portion of Ukraine's territory and people to Russian occupation and Ukrainian military capitulation in advance of any negotiations on an end-state to the war.
Ukrainian counteroffensive operations that liberate operationally significant territory remain the soundest course of action for degrading Putin's confidence in and commitment to his desired end state for his war of aggression against Ukraine.
Putin's rejection of any ceasefire agreement contradicts the Kremlin's previous effort to place the onus for negotiations on the West and Ukraine.
Putin attempted to portray Orban as an EU representative who can speak on the EU's behalf – a claim that EU officials explicitly denied.
Recent Russian domestic polls suggest that Kremlin information operations are influencing domestic Russian support of the war in Ukraine.
These Russian polls indicate that Russians who criticize the conduct of the war in Ukraine still support the war due to patriotism and disenfranchisement.
Many of Russia's "non-opponents" to the war have criticisms that parallel those of Russian ultranationalist milbloggers, yet they lack the ultranationalists' close attention to the war and desire for political change in support of Russian war aims.
Ukrainian forces conducted successful drone and missile strikes against targets in Tambov and Rostov oblasts and Krasnodar Krai on July 4 and 5.
Russian forces recently advanced near Vovchansk, Toretsk, and Donetsk City.
Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) officials continue to portray themselves as providing adequate medical care and other support for Russian soldiers who fought in Ukraine amid ongoing criticisms that the Russian military command sends injured soldiers to fight on the frontline.
Posted on 7/6/24 at 6:40 am to DMAN1968
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It's not Poliboard participants doing it.
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