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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:46 pm to
Posted by Lee B
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 4:46 pm to
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Russians are confident that they hit two Patriot launchers. Ukrainians say that they hit decoys.



Correct me if I'm wrong, but if they hit a missile system, isn't there usually additional explosions as the missiles detonate? There doesn't seem to be any, so it seems it is a decoy... or compared to footage I've seen before of the Air Defense or missile systems getting hit.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:02 pm to
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3573 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:40 pm to
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The Russian Orthodox Church falsely claims that soldiers who perished in the ‘Special Military Operation’ have begun to resurrect.



Welp.. I guess that's it.... the Russian Zombie Apocalypse has started...

Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 5:58 pm to
Those of you who have served in combat zones... am I incorrect in thinking this would not really do any good?

The Moscow charitable foundation donated 20 bulletproof vests with wooden plates to ruzzian military personnel

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This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 6:07 pm to
And as we were speculating about the effectiveness of North Korean and Chinese arms...

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Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 7/6/24 at 6:43 pm to

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Caspar Grosse, a German medic in that unit, said he saw the soldier plead for medical attention in a mix of broken English and Russian. It was dusk. A team member looked for bandages.

That is when, Mr. Grosse said, a fellow soldier hobbled over and fired his weapon into the Russian soldier’s torso. He slumped, still breathing. Another soldier fired — “just shot him in the head,” Mr. Grosse recalled in an interview.

Mr. Grosse said he was so upset by the episode that he confronted his commander. He said he spoke to The New York Times after what he regarded as unwarranted killings continued.
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In a second episode, a Chosen member lobbed a grenade at and killed a surrendering Russian soldier who had his hands raised, video footage reviewed by The Times shows.
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In a third episode, Chosen members boasted in a group chat about killing Russian prisoners of war during a mission in October, text messages show. ...

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This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 6:50 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 7:46 pm to
how dare the Ukrainians kill surrendering Russians after this:

UKRAINSKA PRAVDA: "Russians behead Ukrainian soldier in Donetsk Oblast"

On 17 June 2024, the Ukrainian military received information that soldiers from a Russian unit in the Volnovakha district of Donetsk Oblast had ordered their subordinates not to take Ukrainian soldiers prisoner, but to behead them instead.

While carrying out aerial reconnaissance at a combat position in Donetsk Oblast, Ukrainian forces spotted a damaged armoured vehicle belonging to the Ukrainian defence forces. The severed head of a Ukrainian defender was lying on top of it.


Independent 7/2/24: "Russia is ordering its troops to kill Ukrainian prisoners of war - why?"

“The logic is very straightforward: the killing of defenceless [Ukrainian] military personnel is intended to prevent Russians from themselves surrendering to the Ukrainian army on the basis that if [Russians] are doing this to them, the Ukrainians will do the same to you if you give up. Therefore, don’t surrender to them, rather kill yourself.
This post was edited on 7/6/24 at 7:53 pm
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:08 pm to
NYTimes 4/12/23: "Video appears to show the beheading of a Ukrainian Prisoner of War"

The U.N. mission monitoring human rights in Ukraine said it was “appalled” by the video, which appeared to record the beheading of a Ukrainian soldier by Russian troops.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:32 pm to
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:

Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban continues to posture himself as a potential mediator to end the war in Ukraine despite Putin's rejection of mediation or serious negotiations. Orban is likely aiming to shift Western focus towards possible peace negotiations as part of his overarching effort to undermine European support for Ukraine.

Orban's and others' calls for negotiations and Ukraine's peace formula, are distinct efforts with different aims, and Russian President Vladimir Putin has demonstrated he is not interested in any negotiated agreements short of Ukraine's capitulation.

Ukrainian forces struck energy infrastructure in Krasnodar Krai with drones on the night of July 5 to 6.

Iran announced on July 6 that Iran and Russia signed a bank agreement on July 4 enabling Russia and Iran to trade in the Russian ruble and Iranian rial.

The Russian government continues efforts to isolate the Russian people from material it considers antithetical to state interests and ideology.

Russian forces recently advanced near Kupyansk, Siversk, Toretsk, and Avdiivka.

Russian federal subjects (regions) continue to increase monetary incentives to recruit contract soldiers (kontraktniki).


Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15751 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 8:49 pm to
A Patriot battery consists of several launchers, a radar module, an electric power generator and a control module. At a minimum it has 7 locations over at least a square mile.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 10:54 pm to
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
3947 posts
Posted on 7/6/24 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

A Patriot battery consists of several launchers, a radar module, an electric power generator and a control module. At a minimum it has 7 locations over at least a square mile.


Ah, thanks... so the Russians are claiming that they hit the radar module?
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15751 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 7:03 am to
Russian tanks in storage are mostly scrap. Satellite photo survey shows this.

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Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 8:30 am to
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The Russian Orthodox Church falsely claims that soldiers who perished in the ‘Special Military Operation’ have begun to resurrect. LINK


This is what Lima actually believes.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15751 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 9:35 am to
I have not watched this yet, but Perun is usually a source of reason without bias and with a tad bit of dry humor.

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Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:07 am to
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15751 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:15 am to
The Russian turtle tanks seem to hide that they are using OLD tanks and also seems to be tactic used by Ivan the Terrible vs Mongols, gulyay-golrod, or moveable forts.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:37 am to
Other random tweets

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China and Belarus announce joint 'anti-terrorist' army drills near Brest in Belarus (8-19.07), at the border with Poland & Ukraine

This comes as:

1. Belarus and Russia maintain weaponized migration pressure at EU borders
2. Poland starts to limit the Silk Road rail transports at the main gateway near Brest (Malaszewicze hub) due to risks of sanctions circumvention and Minsk's aggressive behavior
3. Belarus ramps up propaganda hysteria on the supposed threat of millitary aggression from Ukraine

China claims the drills were planned in advance (Xinhua), yet Beijing must be aware of this context. Bad signaling vis a vis Europe.

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I'd take this one with a grain of salt

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The numbers documented in the latest article of the Economist reporting on the Russian losses in Ukraine in the last two years are staggering. They have exceeded all losses the Soviet Union and the Russian Federation experienced from 1945 to 2022, combined. Somewhere between 462,000 and 728,000 of Russian soldiers have been permanently eliminated, basically confirming the numbers Ukrainian forces have been reporting all along.

You can also see from that chart that the numbers of destroyed Russian militants has increased, significantly, over the past months, especially in connection with the failed Kharkiv incursion. It confirms what I was suspecting for a while. Russia is trying to brute-force a decision on the battlefield, respectively, is trying to project that it is making progress on the ground and lie to the public that Russia is winning the war. Though a few gains have been made on the ground, they all have been tiny. In some cases such as the Kharkiv incursion, they have been even partially reversed.

Strategically seen the Russian offensives have been all but a string of failures. The attrition rate of Russian human material and hardware is not sustainable on the long run. The situation of the Russian armor and the reserves have recently also been part of the debate. Depending on the analysts, Russian reserves of armor will last between 18 and 36 months, but it will end in a foreseeable future.

The Ukrainian drone campaign against Russian oil facilities and other high value targets in Russia might expedite Russia's downfall. It is a thorn in Russia's side, which many still don't take notice of enough.

Summarizing the paragraphs above, it appears that the Kremlin considers this year to be the make-or-break period. The Russian reserves are not enough to sustain a prolonged war, beyond the next 2 or 3 years. It is coming to on end, one way or another, so more than ever Russian cannon fodder has to be thrown into the fire. Putin needs to convince or more specifically bluff that Russia is winning, now more than ever, but numbers are not lying and Russia is failing by virtually every metric.

This is why Russians are investing so much to install their puppets in Western leadership positions and hope that they stop the war for them. This concerted effort by Russia will accelerate in the coming months. If Russians fail in doing so or their puppets do not turn out being this good, especially after realizing that long-term precautions have been taken to mitigate those risks, it will have a dramatic impact on the Russian war effort.

Europe and especially Germany are holding the keys for Russia's end. It is up to their determination to steer into the right direction, even without the US. The economic capacities are available even today.

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quote:

Dutch Foreign Minister on military training in Ukraine: no plans yet, but not ruled out

"We are currently in talks with other partners. We don't have any concrete plans for training yet. As you know, we are already training in other countries," Caspar Veldkamp said during a visit to Kyiv.

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Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13135 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 10:47 am to
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Perun is usually a source of reason without bias and with a tad bit of dry humor.


Perun is an excellent source, the only one I watch without fail. He works in the defense industry in Australia in some capacity and knows what he is talking about.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 7/7/24 at 11:26 am to
Is this a x source or telegram or what?
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