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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:06 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:06 pm to
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Indeed, the Founders believed that all humans were endowed with basic rights by their Creator


Just to clarify, Unless those humans were slaves on their plantations.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:24 pm to
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Taking this particular incident out of the context of Russia or Ukraine or Muslim vs Christian or anything else.

If someone deliberately murdered my family. Like in a terrorist incident they shot down my daughters in a shopping mall or whatever. If given the opportunity I would personally torture them to death on live television. And wouldn't care what anyone did to me afterwards.

And I think there needs to be more of that. If more Muslims saw us chopping off their dicks, cutting their throats, and throwing them into a pit of rotting pig carcasses, then maybe they would think twice about taking the express elevator to heaven.


Biggest fact of the entire thread. This is part of why a lot of the right align so much with Russia presently, not that it makes it right but this is part of why. Contrast this with our border and the domestic violence from one particular group of people and you see. They’re out of control with it, it’s not related to Ukraine, but it’s there.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:26 pm to
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Just to clarify, Unless those humans were slaves on their plantations.


Let's not go down that rabbit hole. I am sure our founding fathers would be against electrocuting slaves in the balls.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:27 pm to
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Let's not go down that rabbit hole. I am sure our founding fathers would be against electrocuting slaves in the balls.


I'm sure they would be against it as well, and I certainly didn't intend to connotate that they would support it; however, to say they viewed all humans as equal is not true.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 5:29 pm
Posted by No Colors
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:39 pm to
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to say they viewed all humans as equal is not true.



When they said "All men are created equal" they defined a "man" as a white, educated, landowning male. They absolutely did not consider blacks, servants, slaves, criminals, children, or women as equals.

And they would be the first to tell you that if you extended full liberties and rights to those groups, and gave them the One Man One Vote standard, that the form of government they devised would collapse with the quickness.

Or as Ben Franklin said: "When people discover that they can vote themselves money, that is the end of the Republic."
Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:44 pm to
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script.

Captioned Putin speech blaming Ukraine


Putin calling the Ukrainians terrorists for attacking energy infrastructure is the definition of hypocrisy
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 5:48 pm to
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LOL at all the primitive people in here who think that America was better off when lynching was common.

The rule of law is the most basic foundation of a free society.

That's why the right to an attorney, the right to a fair trial, the legal presumption of innocence, and the prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment are constitutional rights.

And some of you who have just rejected the Bill of Rights in this very thread will turn right around and pretend to be great patriots.

Pathetic.


No one said anything about lynching and it’s interesting that’s the example run to with the obvious connotations. There’s also a distinction between run of the mill, albeit violent, crime from citizens and non-citizen terrorist attacks. On the domestic front, any violent crime should have trials expedited greatly from present and no life in prison. Frick em. Stop this shite.

Convicted of rape, cut their dick off. Murder? Kill ‘em back. Problem solved.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 7:47 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:15 pm to
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Since you wrote this to me and did not answer my question of if you intended this at me I can only assume it was.


I didn't think it was directed at you specifically and I honestly didn't think it was calling anyone racist, just that people long for days past based on some attributes of the time and forget the dark side.

My opinion may be incorrect due to bias because I hate when mom and dad fight.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:20 pm to
Head of RT Margarita Simonyan blames the US and Ukraine for the Crocus City Hall attack

Julia Davis captioned video

Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:29 pm to
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Even if Russia conquers Ukraine will they be left with an Iraq situation? Military is conquered but plenty who harbor a very deep hatred of the occupying Russians who killed their families for Putin's desire for territorial gain, they won't just abide and be peaceful citizens of Russia now.


Russia doesn’t abide by our rules of engagement. They aren’t going to try to be a glorified police force.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 6:49 pm to
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Stidham8


Have you learned how to read a map yet?
Posted by Obtuse1
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:07 pm to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:10 pm to
SBU head: Russia no longer using Crimean bridge for weapons supplies after repeated strikes

by Elsa Court and The Kyiv Independent news desk March 25, 2024 11:43 PM

Russia no longer uses the Crimean Bridge to supply weapons to the front after Ukrainian strikes damaged the crossing, Vasyl Maliuk, the head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), said on air on March 25.

The bridge, also called the Kerch Bridge, connects the Russian mainland with the Russian-occupied Crimean peninsula, making it a crucial supply route for the Russian military in Ukraine.

Construction on the 19-kilometer-long bridge began after the illegal 2014 annexation and occupation of Crimea, and was completed in 2018.

The bridge was heavily damaged in Ukrainian strikes in October 2022 and July 2023. The plan to strike the bridge was first conceived in March 2022, Maliuk said.

Before the bridge came under attack, "42 to 46 trains carrying weapons and ammunition passed there per day," Maliuk said.

"Today there are four or five in a day," of which four are for passenger traffic, and one is for consumer goods, Maliuk said.

Russian proxy authorities in occupied Crimea regularly shut down traffic on the Crimean Bridge amid reports of explosions and drone strikes.

When the structure is fully restored, Russia will likely use the bridge once again for weapons supplies, Maliuk said, but implied that Ukraine plans to then carry out another attack.

"Everything has its time," Maliuk said.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:43 pm to
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Since you wrote this to me and did not answer my question of if you intended this at me I can only assume it was.


No, wasn't directed at you at all. Sorry that you thought it was.

quote:


I categorically reject the subtext of your comment that I'm a racist.


No, wasn't going there. Didn't even really mean it as a racial comment. I was referring to lynching in the more general sense of an extrajudicial hanging. Plenty of white people have been lynched.

Again, my sincere apologies for the confusion. You have been one of the best posters in this thread.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/25/24 at 7:46 pm to
Apology accepted, thank you. I removed my post.

I have the same opinion of your posting in this thread.
This post was edited on 3/25/24 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
30689 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:01 pm to
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Head of RT Margarita Simonyan blames the US and Ukraine for the Crocus City Hall attack


Solovyov did too. I find it funny these two can muster such performatively hypocritical indignation when both of them have called for the nuking of London and Washington.

I also love how when Solovyov is acting exasperated they turn the gain up on his mic so you can hear his breathlessness. They do it a lot on his morning show but rarely on the evening show.
Posted by Auburn1968
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Member since Mar 2019
26928 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:16 pm to
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Russia no longer uses the Crimean Bridge to supply weapons to the front after Ukrainian strikes damaged the crossing, Vasyl Maliuk, the head of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU), said on air on March 25.


Perhaps Ukraine should hit the bridge when a long train carrying fuel and armaments is crossing.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 3/25/24 at 8:40 pm to
ISW Update

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Key Takeaways:

The March 22 Islamic State Khorasan (IS-K) attack on Moscow’s Crocus City Hall is a notable Russian intelligence and law enforcement failure, and explaining currently available open-source evidence does not require any wider and more complicated conspiracy theory either within or against the Russian state.

Kremlin officials’ and Russian ultranationalists’ continued insistence on blaming Ukraine for an attack that IS-K very likely committed may come at the expense of Russian internal security and civilian lives.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) confirmed that Lieutenant General Esedulla Abachev became the Leningrad Military District (LMD) Deputy Commander as the Russian military continues the formal disbandment of the Western Military District (WMD) and recreation of the LMD and Moscow Military District (MMD).

Ukrainian officials stated that the Ukrainian strike on occupied Sevastopol, Crimea on the night of March 23 targeted more Black Sea Fleet (BSF) ships and caused more damage than initially reported.

The Kremlin continues to lean on long debunked narratives as part of its wider information operations aimed at discrediting and undermining Western support for Ukraine.

Russian forces recently made confirmed advances near Avdiivka on March 25.


Posted by GOP_Tiger
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21042 posts
Posted on 3/26/24 at 4:30 am to
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Ukraine has claimed yet another successful strike on Russia’s Black Sea Fleet (BSF), announcing on March 26 that the landing ship Konstantin Olshansky had been hit by a Neptune missile.

Speaking on national TV, Navy spokesperson Dmytro Pletenchuk said damage to the vessel was still being determined.


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