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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:38 am to
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:38 am to
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The Financial Times has found out that the United States has purportedly urged Ukraine not to hit Russian oil refineries and other energy infrastructure facilities, as it is concerned that this could lead to higher energy prices



Biden can’t afford even higher gas prices rt now with an election around the corner.





Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
90343 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:43 am to
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You forgot to congratulate Putin on yet *another* free and fair electoral victory the other day!


Like the US?

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38240 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 7:47 am to
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Like the US?


Yep, exactly like the US. There it is folks. We basically live in North Korea. We live in a totalitarian state. The only difference is we have college baseball and the Masters.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
45724 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:31 am to
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The Financial Times has found out that the United States has purportedly urged Ukraine not to hit Russian oil refineries and other energy infrastructure facilities, as it is concerned that this could lead to higher energy prices Biden can’t afford even higher gas prices rt now with an election around the corner.


Yep. If gas prices are >$3.00 per gallon on election day then he is toast. So he definitely doesn’t need Russia importing petroleum products from the global market to make up for lost refinery capacity. Which unfortunately is just another example of Biden screwing Ukraine because it would hurt him politically.
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13519 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:40 am to
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Like the US?


I love how Donald J Trump was President of the United States. With his own appointments as heads of the Military, CIA, NSA, FEC, RNC, DIA, FBI, and others.

And he loses an election to a guy who stayed in a basement. And his only excuse is that "They cheated! It was stolen!". And in 60 court cases, and with access to all of that data and intelligence, and an army of lawyers.....he has produced literally zero evidence of any material fraud or cheating.

And his ex lawyers and advisors are literally going to jail. Pleading guilty to criminal charges. And companies who repeated his claims are literally paying billions of dollars of legal judgements.

All of which could be avoided by just showing proof of what he claims to have happened. And instead we get crickets. And admissions from his lawyers -- while under oath and under indictment -- that they never found a shred of proof.

And you guys still believe him. It just boggles the mind.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 8:43 am to
Stefanishyna on US calls not to hit Russian refineries: We act according to the best NATO standards
ALONA MAZURENKO — FRIDAY, 22 MARCH 2024, 12:50

Deputy Prime Minister for European and Euro-Atlantic Integration Olha Stefanishyna said that oil refineries on the territory of Russia are legitimate targets of Ukraine from a military point of view. According to her, in this case, Ukraine acts according to NATO standards.

Source: Stefanishyna at the Kyiv Security Forum

Stefanishyna was asked how Ukrainian side reacted to the article about the alleged US calls for Ukraine to stop strikes on Russian refineries.

Quote: "The Ukrainian side responded, I think, precisely by achieving its goals and very successful operations conducted on the territory of the Russian Federation.

There are also statements by other officials that these are absolutely legitimate targets from a military point of view. We understand the calls of our American partners. At the same time, we are fighting with the capabilities, resources and practices that we have.

I want to remind my colleagues who make such statements, when in February 2022, I spoke with NATO Headquarters to appeal to the UN, because they are able to "close the sky" over Ukraine.

They said, "Olga, you don't understand NATO standards." In NATO's understanding, this means, first of all, the destruction of infrastructure on the territory of Russia, which makes it possible to bomb Ukrainian cities. Factories that will produce missiles. Therefore, we act in accordance with the best NATO standards."

Details: Commenting on the Russian attack on 22 March, the Deputy Prime Minister noted that she expects her partners to provide Ukraine with weapons: "The reaction is one thing, we expect weapons in the first place."
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
16136 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:19 am to
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Yep. If gas prices are >$3.00 per gallon on election day then he is toast. So he definitely doesn’t need Russia importing petroleum products from the global market to make up for lost refinery capacity. Which unfortunately is just another example of Biden screwing Ukraine because it would hurt him politically.


BP is cutting 1/3 of production from a German refinery due lack of demand. China's economy never really got rolling again. This is all about public perception and not really effect to the price of petrol in England or gasoline in the USA. Heck we even closed refineries permanently as a result of Covid and not seeing demand like it used to be.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:26 am to
I just report the other side since this is an echo chamber, it's bizarre how much that bothers y'all.



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This is sad, you either get sent on a suicide mission...or you get savagely beaten and then sent on a suicide mission.



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Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42757 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:33 am to
Yesterday you posted that Zelensky ruled with an iron hand and didn’t allow pictures of damaged Ukrainian cities and facilities to leak out; however, less than 24 hours later you post pictures of last night’s damaged.

It’s obvious you make a lot of stuff up. I think it’s best that you stick to your day job.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 9:44 am
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13164 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:33 am to
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230 of his 237 posts are in this thread or directly related to the Russo-Ukranian war. He is either a pussy alter or posting from a bot farm inside Russia. At least Ruff Fish was open about his citizenship.


Exactly, he has been obvious from the beginning. His second post was sports related, I guess to try to create some sort of cover.



But then his next 100+ posts were purely Russia Ukraine, every single one, and he's not really bothered any pretense about it. It's really not hard to figure out.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42757 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:37 am to
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That's really shitty of Russia if true. Babies and old people with no heat.


Err Sir Windbag, the Russians launched an all out major attack on babies and old people over two years ago.
Posted by klrstix
Shreveport, LA
Member since Oct 2006
3598 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:44 am to
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allies will start developing their own nuclear weapons because America is dysfunctional and unreliable.



Wow .. its almost as if when America abandons our leadership role in the World, other nations will rise up to fill that void...

Nature never tolerates a vacuum..

Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26923 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:54 am to
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The Financial Times has found out that the United States has purportedly urged Ukraine not to hit Russian oil refineries and other energy infrastructure facilities, as it is concerned that this could lead to higher energy prices



Biden can’t afford even higher gas prices rt now with an election around the corner.


As Obama said, "Never underestimate Biden's ability to frick things up."
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
26923 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:57 am to
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Poland's Foreign Minister, Radoslaw Sikorski: If the US fails to deliver military support to Ukraine despite the Commander-in-Chief's desire to do so (President Biden), allies will start developing their own nuclear weapons because America is dysfunctional and unreliable.


Fact check: TRUE


Tying US aid to Ukraine to the US border was weak leverage and confusing. Tying the US border to a continuing resolution would have been strong leverage and an appropriate government partial shutdown.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 9:59 am to
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esterday you posted that Zelensky ruled with an iron hand and didn’t allow pictures of damaged Ukrainian cities and facilities to leak out; however, less than 24 hours later you post pictures of last night’s damaged.



"When in the last 18 months have there been pictures of military targets hit in Western Ukraine? Almost never"

You missed a key word there chief.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:07 am to
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But then his next 100+ posts were purely Russia Ukraine, every single one, and he's not really bothered any pretense about it. It's really not hard to figure out.


How retarded do you have to be to believe Russia is paying people to post in this thread? Y'all are down bad after last night.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42757 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:08 am to
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You missed a key word there chief.


Oh, so the tyrant permits pictures in large parts of Ukraine and not others? Don’t you think that’s nice of him?

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42757 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:10 am to
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Tying US aid to Ukraine to the US border was weak leverage and confusing. Tying the US border to a continuing resolution would have been strong leverage and an appropriate government partial shutdown.


That was stupid.

Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13519 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:23 am to
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This is sad, you either get sent on a suicide mission...or you get savagely beaten and then sent on a suicide mission.


Sounds like this war has turned into a nightmare of death, destruction, injuries, heartbreak, and spiraling risk for the entire world.

Sounds like millions will be displaced. Millions will be traumatized. Millions will go hungry. Billions of people will spend more for basic goods. And hundreds of billions of dollars will be wasted rather than invested in growing something productive.

Sounds like an ill conceived plan, by an isolated autocratic dictator, incorrectly assessed and poorly executed.

Sounds like a bad deal all the way around. So maybe he should just pack up and go home before it gets worse?

Or did you think you would have it the other way?
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:24 am to
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"When in the last 18 months have there been pictures of military targets hit in Western Ukraine? Almost never"


Try to keep up comrade. Even you should be able to figure out why such a law is necessary. Hint: "Loose Lips Sink Ships".

Zelenskiy Signs Law Restricting Distribution Of Ukrainian Military Information

According to the document, filming the movements of Ukrainian military personnel, sites of shelling, street names, transport stops, shops, factories, and other civilian and military facilities is now prohibited.
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