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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:28 am to
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:28 am to
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Who's winning?
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:34 am to
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Who's winning?

Since the war started, Russia has lost all of its advanced radar planes, it's Black Sea Fleet, 18% of it's oil refinery capacity, billions in international trade, access to the SWIFT systems, Indian arms deals, and most (if not all) of their foreign reserves, while facing 18% YoY inflation, a devalued currency and a brain drain of 1M young, educated workers.

But Russia has gained 8% of Ukraine's land, some of which contains oil, which Russia already had in abundance.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 10:48 am to
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The Financial Times has found out that the United States has purportedly urged Ukraine not to hit Russian oil refineries and other energy infrastructure facilities, as it is concerned that this could lead to higher energy prices and further escalation.



"As long as it takes!!"

Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:21 am to
There were before and after satellite photos of what Russia claimed was THE ammo storage depot for Ukraine. In fact, it is where decades OLD solid fuel ballistic missiles had been stored for decades, with degraded solid fuel that still made a big bang. Likely stored there by the USSR from their agreement in START to reduce their solid fuel ballistic missiles.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:28 am to
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ColtRange


You can try and pretend you’re some neutral contrarian all you want, but you’re on record here crying that we have been too mean to the Russians for “decades,” meaning going back to when they were the Soviets. You just need to accept your identity and go to a DSA meeting, link up arms and express solidarity with the “global south” while having a candlelight vigil for big mean US imperialism.
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:45 am to
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You can try and pretend you’re some neutral contrarian all you want, but you’re on record here crying that we have been too mean to the Russians for “decades,”


Source? Should be easy to find. Ask Tigris or Obtuse, they've apparently been through every single one of my posts in the last 24 hours
Posted by North Dallas Tiger
United States of America
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:52 am to
So is Ukraine winning and Russia losing this conflict? Please clarify.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25934 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:53 am to
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we have been too mean to the Russians for “decades,” meaning going back to when they were the Soviets.


I’m not claiming to know the positions of anyone’s arguments here, but this seems a pretty weak counter, unless it was stated “since the 1980s” or something.

As they haven’t technically “been Soviets” in 33 years. How many decades is that?
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 12:40 pm
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
11240 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:55 am to
"since the war started". But in the last 24 hours, Russia has destroyed about 1/2 of Ukraine's power generating capability, a claim that would be very easy for western spooks to verify .

Western media has no comment

FAFO is pretty much the Russian strategy to hold the nazi's in check
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 11:59 am to
Iskander just hit the port in Odessa

Posted by Tigerdad2001
Watson
Member since Sep 2013
999 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:06 pm to
We are wasting so much and it seems unrealistic that Ukraine can/will win. Let's go ahead and finish these fools because they're not gonna stop at Ukraine!
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13520 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:22 pm to
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port in Odessa


So instead of going after Ukraine war production, Russia is targeting their port infrastructure to make it impossible for them to export grain?
Posted by ColtRange
Member since May 2023
1002 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:36 pm to
Terrorist attack in Moscow



LINK

There are some pretty terrible videos of the attack on twitter. Apparently there was a large explosion and fire now



This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 12:46 pm
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38497 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 12:52 pm to
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Terrorist attack in Moscow


Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38240 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:04 pm to
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Terrorist attack in Moscow


BRB, sending thoughts and prayers.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:08 pm to
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Posted by RLDSC FAN
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Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:31 pm to
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5740 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:36 pm to
Ukraine's PM says Ukraine needs 24 hours to completely restore power supply to population
Economichna Pravda — Friday, 22 March 2024, 16:59

It will take 24 hours to reconnect all household consumers who have been cut off from the power grid due to the Russian attack on Ukraine's energy system.

Source: Ukraine's Prime Minister Denys Shmyhal at a government meeting

Details: The minister noted that Russia's strikes today (22 March) primarily targeted the Ukrainian energy sector. About 20 substations and power plants have been hit, including the Dnipro hydroelectric power plant.

"Most importantly, the power grid is integral, and the power system operates stably. Thanks to the additional protection of our power facilities, we have withstood the attack. There is no capacity shortage, and none is currently expected. Repair crews are working around the clock to restore power to Ukrainian homes as soon as possible," Shmyhal added.

The Ukrainian prime minister explained that the power supply will be restored in three stages:

first, critical infrastructure (heat supply, water supply, hospitals) will be reconnected;
the second stage will involve supplying power to the population;
the third stage will be to supply power to industry.

"Early reports indicate that we need 24 hours to reconnect all household consumers to the power supply. We will gradually recover everything. Ukrenergo [Ukraine's national energy company] and the Ministry of Energy will provide all additional details," the prime minister concluded.

Background:

The Russian missile attack on 22 March hit the Dnipro hydroelectric power plant in Zaporizhzhia, which is the largest of its kind in Ukraine. There is no threat of a breach, and the situation at the dam is under control.
Emergency power outages were introduced in a range of Ukrainian oblasts due to Russian missile strikes on Ukrainian power system facilities.
Subsequently, Ukrenergo ordered that household consumers in all oblasts of Ukraine, except Kharkiv, Odesa, Khmelnytskyi and Dnipropetrovsk, be reconnected to the power supply.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 1:37 pm
Posted by Hondo Blacksheep
Member since Jul 2022
3207 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 1:38 pm to
8%?

I don't like Russia either but they appear to have taken 20-25% of Ukraine, and if they can grind out that pincer movement to the west so they can get to that narrow north-south belt, I don't see how Ukraine can hang on unless we (the US, not NATO) do it for them.

We should not.
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 1:39 pm
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
4047 posts
Posted on 3/22/24 at 2:09 pm to
Looks very very bad. Possibly a false flag?
This post was edited on 3/22/24 at 2:12 pm
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