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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:13 am to WeeWee
Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:13 am to WeeWee
quote:Lovely
Who gives a f**k if we destroyed it or not?
quote:Re: "Who gives a f**k" and "Putin FAFO" ...
Russia attacked one of our pipelines in 2021. Putin FAFO payback is a bitch
It used to be that truth mattered.
I guess that time has come and gone.
But for the record, no, Russia did not “attack one of our pipelines in 2021.”
In fact, the FBI concluded categorically the Russian government was NOT involved in the Colonial Pipeline hack. The POTUS followed those conclusions by publicly pronouncing that we did NOT believe the Russian government was involved in anyway with the Colonial Pipeline attack.
Several months after the Colonial Pipeline hack, Russian authorities successfully tracked down and arrested members of the REvil cybercriminal hacking group who actually were responsible for the attack. That was Putin’s contribution to the situation.
The Biden administration confirmed the Russian arrests and hacking ties, saying it was pleased with the Russian actions.
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Posted on 3/14/24 at 4:52 am to StormyMcMan
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on progress toward a diplomatic solution to the war.
Sounds like you can't read
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:02 am to trinidadtiger
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The American public is sick of this graft and wants it to end.
Someone is getting paid. An unpopular war in election times, you'd think some messages would be sent.
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The poll shows that 4 in 10 U.S. adults want America to broadly take a "less active" role in solving global conflicts.
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Overall, 55% say the US Congress should not authorize additional funding to support Ukraine vs. 45% who say Congress should authorize such funding. And 51% say that the US has already done enough to help Ukraine while 48% say it should do more. A poll conducted in the early days of the Russian invasion in late February 2022 found 62% who felt the US should have been doing more.
LINK
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:04 am to SirWinston
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I'd rather it be buried at the bottom of the sea than have it be used to kill our brothers in Christ.
Many more men are going to die in this war, because Russia is more committed than ever to the complete conquest of Ukraine.
Here's Medvedev's new demand for Ukraine's unconditional surrender: LINK
Monsters like you just want the people who die to be Ukrainian. You support one of the most evil regimes in the world, where people get arrested for laying flowers on the grave of a protester, where anyone who holds up a blank sheet of paper in Red Square gets arrested as a presumed protester.
And when you profane the name of Christ, I will tell you that he is not mocked, and that he will ultimately judge the heart of everyone.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:37 am to GOP_Tiger
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 14 March 2024
Russian forces continue to prosecute attacks along several areas of the front line. Russia is focussing operations west of Avdiivka and Marinka, towns both in Donetsk Oblast. These axes account for 60 per cent of reported Russian attacks in the last four weeks.
However, the average number of reported weekly Russian ground attacks on Ukraine has reduced by 13 per cent since late February 2024, when the weekly average reached 600. Russia seized control of Avdiivka and several villages west of the town in February, but advances have slowed since.
It is highly likely that the overall situation will be challenging for Ukrainian forces in coming weeks with Russia continuing to regenerate forces and carry out attacks on priority axes.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 14 March 2024
Russian forces continue to prosecute attacks along several areas of the front line. Russia is focussing operations west of Avdiivka and Marinka, towns both in Donetsk Oblast. These axes account for 60 per cent of reported Russian attacks in the last four weeks.
However, the average number of reported weekly Russian ground attacks on Ukraine has reduced by 13 per cent since late February 2024, when the weekly average reached 600. Russia seized control of Avdiivka and several villages west of the town in February, but advances have slowed since.
It is highly likely that the overall situation will be challenging for Ukrainian forces in coming weeks with Russia continuing to regenerate forces and carry out attacks on priority axes.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:46 am to cypher
Medvedev lays out so-called Russian Peace Formula
Ukrainska Pravda - Anastasia Protz —
Thursday, 14 March 2024, 11:36
Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev has laid out the details of the so-called Russian Peace Formula, which would require the capitulation of Ukraine, "payment of all due compensations to Russia" and "adoption of an act on the reunification of the former territories of 'Ukraine' with the Russian Federation" in return for Russia ending hostilities.
Source: Medvedev on Telegram
Details: Medvedev stated that to achieve so-called "consensus with the international community", Ukraine must declare "complete and unconditional surrender", "conduct demilitarisation", "dismiss all constitutional authorities" and "immediately hold elections for a temporary parliament".
He also claimed that Western countries recognise the "Kyiv political regime as [a] Nazi [junta]" and that there was a need to conduct a "forced denazification [programme encompassing] all authorities" under United Nations supervision.
In addition, the Russian official believes that Ukraine must pay compensation to Russia, including reimbursing relatives of Russian soldiers, and to "officially recognise that the entire territory of Ukraine belongs to the Russian Federation".
Quote: "This is the soft Russian Peace Formula. After all, this is a compromise position, isn't it? I believe that following it, we can come to a friendly consensus with the international community, including the Anglo-Saxon world, and conduct productive summits, counting on the understanding of our close friends, namely our Western partners."
Ukrainska Pravda - Anastasia Protz —
Thursday, 14 March 2024, 11:36
Deputy Chairman of the Russian Security Council Dmitry Medvedev has laid out the details of the so-called Russian Peace Formula, which would require the capitulation of Ukraine, "payment of all due compensations to Russia" and "adoption of an act on the reunification of the former territories of 'Ukraine' with the Russian Federation" in return for Russia ending hostilities.
Source: Medvedev on Telegram
Details: Medvedev stated that to achieve so-called "consensus with the international community", Ukraine must declare "complete and unconditional surrender", "conduct demilitarisation", "dismiss all constitutional authorities" and "immediately hold elections for a temporary parliament".
He also claimed that Western countries recognise the "Kyiv political regime as [a] Nazi [junta]" and that there was a need to conduct a "forced denazification [programme encompassing] all authorities" under United Nations supervision.
In addition, the Russian official believes that Ukraine must pay compensation to Russia, including reimbursing relatives of Russian soldiers, and to "officially recognise that the entire territory of Ukraine belongs to the Russian Federation".
Quote: "This is the soft Russian Peace Formula. After all, this is a compromise position, isn't it? I believe that following it, we can come to a friendly consensus with the international community, including the Anglo-Saxon world, and conduct productive summits, counting on the understanding of our close friends, namely our Western partners."
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 5:48 am
Posted on 3/14/24 at 5:55 am to cypher
Bloomberg: Ukraine's recent drone strikes hit facilities representing 12% of Russia's oil-processing capacity
by Olena Goncharova March 14, 2024 6:57 AM
On March 13, a drone strike caused a fire at Rosneft PJSC's Ryazan plant near Moscow, one of the country's largest crude-processing facilities. Additionally, a drone attack halted operations at the smaller Novoshakhtinsk refinery in the southern Rostov region.
These incidents, along with a similar attack at Lukoil PJSC's Norsi plant on March 12, have caused significant disruption, Bloomberg reports. The three facilities hit by Ukrainian drones in the past days account for about 12% of Russia’s oil-processing capacity.
by Olena Goncharova March 14, 2024 6:57 AM
On March 13, a drone strike caused a fire at Rosneft PJSC's Ryazan plant near Moscow, one of the country's largest crude-processing facilities. Additionally, a drone attack halted operations at the smaller Novoshakhtinsk refinery in the southern Rostov region.
These incidents, along with a similar attack at Lukoil PJSC's Norsi plant on March 12, have caused significant disruption, Bloomberg reports. The three facilities hit by Ukrainian drones in the past days account for about 12% of Russia’s oil-processing capacity.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:02 am to WeeWee
Gazprom had several billion reasons coming at them in weeks to damage 3 of the 4 pipelines of the Nordstream system.
It is repairable not destroyed.
Furthermore, there is no gas going through the remaining pipeline because Russia fricked up its compressors. You cannot go buy these big boys off the shelf from anywhere with or without sanctions.
It is repairable not destroyed.
Furthermore, there is no gas going through the remaining pipeline because Russia fricked up its compressors. You cannot go buy these big boys off the shelf from anywhere with or without sanctions.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:41 am to Bunk Moreland
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You idiot. Biden and Nuland said they were going to do it.
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we also would have been blatantly upfront that it was us who destroyed the pipeline
Publicly threatening to destroy something before the fact vs. doing it and then taking credit for it publicly are very different things. So you either don't understand politics or are just illiterate, you idiot.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 6:45 am to CitizenK
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Furthermore, there is no gas going through the remaining pipeline because Russia fricked up its compressors. You cannot go buy these big boys off the shelf from anywhere with or without sanctions.
Yep, supply chain issues for anything like that are still a huge problem everywhere. We have had several large projects delayed because you just can't get stuff.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:08 am to VolSquatch
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Yep, supply chain issues for anything like that are still a huge problem everywhere. We have had several large projects delayed because you just can't get stuff.
The very large centrifugal compressors are one of a kind. Russia skimped on dehydrating its natural gas and paid the price by crashing all of them.
Supply chains have no bearing.
I don't know what kind of projects you may be involved with but a big reason for fabricated major items having long lead times is not material or parts but labor shortages. Many fab shops are operating at 50% capacity.
Boomers retiring is leaving a vacuum in the skilled labor pool, which was already short for at least a decade.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:23 am to NC_Tigah
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In fact, the FBI concluded categorically the Russian government was NOT involved in the Colonial Pipeline hack.
So it’s ok to believe the FBI now? Interesting.
I really don’t know how you guys do it.
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The Biden administration confirmed the Russian arrests and hacking ties, saying it was pleased with the Russian actions.
And we can believe the administration in this instance?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:28 am to cypher
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Details: Medvedev stated that to achieve so-called "consensus with the international community", Ukraine must declare "complete and unconditional surrender", "conduct demilitarisation", "dismiss all constitutional authorities" and "immediately hold elections for a temporary parliament".
Both sides in this war are delusional in their war aims. And sadly, I see little to no prospects for anyone to bring either side out of their delusional states, so the WWI style meat grinder will continue in full vigor for the foreseeable future.
ETA: you can down vote what I said all you want. But you can’t refute what I said.
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 7:56 am
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:44 am to cypher
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Medvedev lays out so-called Russian Peace Formula
Poland is reading this while cleaning their guns.
Anyone who thinks this ends in Ukraine is fooling themselves.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:56 am to YouKnowImRight
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Anyone who thinks this ends in Ukraine is fooling themselves.
Weird, since if there was any actual intelligence that backed this idea there would already be at least a few countries sending troops there to crush Russia now before that happens. And given that the most sophisticated intelligence agencies in the world are helping Ukraine, they should know... right?
This post was edited on 3/14/24 at 7:58 am
Posted on 3/14/24 at 7:59 am to Darth_Vader
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ETA: you can down vote what I said all you want. But you can’t refute what I said.
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Both sides in this war are delusional in their war aims.
Defending your country isn't delusional. Who knew it would be so incredibly easy to refute
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:02 am to VolSquatch
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Weird, since if there was any actual intelligence that backed this idea there would already be at least a few countries sending troops there to crush Russia now before that happens. And given that the most sophisticated intelligence agencies in the world are helping Ukraine, they should know... right?
Are you a mushroom?
FWIW, we were prepping for that in 2022 then cooled off as Ukraine achieved momentum. One of those Ukrainian aide packages including mobilizing troops to Poland.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:10 am to SirWinston
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You say this as if it's a good thing. God isn't going to bless America if you're supplying weapons that will prolong a war in which hundreds of thousands of his Christian lads are dying.
what christian lads are dying? Russians are not Christians. do you really believe the "orthodox church" are christians? please please tell me you are that dumb.
you post some stupid shite on all the boards and are weird AF but this may top everything.
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:16 am to tigeraddict
How about we send/sell our mothballed munitions to actual allies instead?
Posted on 3/14/24 at 8:17 am to MoarKilometers
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Defending your country isn't delusional. Who knew it would be so incredibly easy to refute
I know you think you’re being sharp. But when it comes to Ukraine I was referring to their stated war aim of regaining all of the land occupied by Russia going back to 2014. They no more have the ability to reclaim areas like Crimea than Mexico does of reclaiming Texas. It’s simply unrealistic. On the other hand, Russia has made it clear now they intend on complete conquest of Ukraine and its reincorporation into Russia. That’s equally unrealistic. When you set aside emotion and look at this war objectively, you can see both sides have war aims that are completely divorced from reality.
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