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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:47 pm to SirWinston
Posted on 2/20/24 at 5:47 pm to SirWinston
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Also Putin is not a Christian. He was as an atheist and he only uses Christianity as tool to control the Russian people.
Agree 100%.
Thanks for making it absolutely clear you don't really believe the bullshite you spew and just outed yourself as nothing but a pussy troll.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 6:04 pm to GOP_Tiger
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The crazy thing is that, from a manufacturing standpoint, it's seemingly easier to scale up drone production than production of artillery shells. And drone capabilities are growing daily.
Absolutely nothing crazy about that at all. Large scale commercial drones are a real thing; commercial artillery, not so much-- so the build out and build up is relatively easy in the drone field.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 8:33 pm to NC_Tigah
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Ukraine is a pawn of the USA. Ukraine is losing badly and the USA is: 1. the only reason this war started
If you believe this, you are an idiot. Sadly, you’re incapable of self-assessment.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 8:43 pm to BoardReader
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
Ukraine has been defending itself against illegal Russian military intervention and aggression for 10 years.
Russia’s grand strategic objective of regaining control of Ukraine has remained unchanged in the decade since its illegal intervention in Ukraine began.
Russia worked hard to obfuscate its grand strategic objectives of regaining control of Ukraine between 2014 and the start of the full-scale invasion in 2022.
Russian military intelligence is reportedly learning from its failures in recent years and has renewed efforts against NATO states.
Russian President Vladimir Putin and Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu preened themselves on the Russian seizure of Avdiivka.
Shoigu also claimed that Russian forces completely seized Krynky in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast, although available open-source visual evidence and Ukrainian and Russian reporting suggests that Ukrainian forces maintain their limited bridgehead in the area.
The Kremlin likely prematurely claimed the Russian seizure of Krynky to reinforce its desired informational effects ahead of the March 2024 presidential election, although the Kremlin is likely setting expectations that the Russian military may fail to meet.
The New York Times (NYT) reported that the Ukrainian withdrawal from Avdiivka may have left hundreds of Ukrainian personnel “unaccounted” for.
Ukrainian officials launched an investigation into additional apparent Russian violations of the Geneva Conventions on prisoners of war (POWs) in Zaporizhia Oblast.
Russian forces made a confirmed advance west of Avdiivka amid continued positional engagements along the entire frontline.
The Kremlin continues to promote Russia’s efforts to expand its defense industrial base (DIB).
Zaporizhia Oblast occupation authorities are expanding public services provision in occupied parts of the oblast to consolidate bureaucratic control and generate dependencies on the occupation administration.
Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:08 pm to Hateradedrink
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If you believe this, you are an idiot. Sadly, you’re incapable of self-assessment.
Are you suggesting that the USA didn't stop the peace talks when Ukraine was readu to end the war with Russia???
Posted on 2/21/24 at 3:54 am to omegaman66
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Are you suggesting that the USA didn't stop the peace talks when Ukraine was readu to end the war with Russia???
This tactic is known as flooding the zone with bullshite. Everyone who knows anything about the war knows that it's false, but bots keep repeating it to convince new readers and also to keep the discussion away from other, more damaging topics. It's the kind of thing that bots are trained to do.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 4:21 am to GOP_Tiger
Murz committed suicide. LINK
Like Girkin, Murz wanted Russia to win, but he also wanted the Russian public to know the truth. Unfortunately for him, telling the truth is strictly forbidden in Russia.
Like Girkin, Murz wanted Russia to win, but he also wanted the Russian public to know the truth. Unfortunately for him, telling the truth is strictly forbidden in Russia.
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Russian Z-"military correspondent" and serviceman of the 4th Motorized Rifle Brigade of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation Andrei (Murz) Morozov, who hosted the popular pro-war channel "They write to us from Yanina" (more than 100 thousand subscribers), shot himself. This was reported by Igor Strelkov's wife Miroslava Reginskaya and lawyer Maxim Pashkov.
A suicide note appeared on Morozov's channel. In it, he explains his death by the pressure of the command of the brigade of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, which was previously part of the formations of the "LPR", as well as the command of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation as a whole. A few days ago, Murz reported the colossal losses of the Russian army during the assault on Avdiivka - 16 thousand people irretrievably. He also said that the military prosecutor's office of St. Petersburg refused to consider the complaint of a soldier of regiment 1487 about the actions of the command during the assault.
According to Murza, the command decided to keep silent about the losses, allegedly because of criticism of propagandist Vladimir Solovyov.
"Today, Comrade Colonel, by your order, I was forced to delete the post from my telegram channel "They write to us from Ioannina". And you were forced to give this order by your command, relying on the good old army collective responsibility. If it doesn't, we won't give you supplies. Shells. Copters. New tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. And he, your command, was forced to do this by political prostitutes led by Vladimir Solovyov, who are pissing themselves to come and pull the trigger. Well, I'll do it myself. I will shoot myself if no one dares to take on this trifling task. And you will be given tanks and copters. From February 21, 2024, you can safely tell everyone who calls you that I do not serve you, and there are no problems with me," Morozov wrote in his suicide note.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:30 am to GOP_Tiger
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 21 February 2024
Russian Ground Forces have continued and highly likely increased their ground attacks on the Robotyne axis in southern Ukraine, which was recaptured by Ukraine during its counter-offensive in summer 2023. The village has remained on the frontline since.
The Russian 58th Combined Arms army and Russian Airborne Forces (VDV) operating in the area sustained heavy casualties during the Ukrainian counter-offensive. However, the lower operational tempo since, and continued Russian recruitment efforts have likely enabled Russian forces on this axis to reconstitute.
Russian forces have intensified attacks across several points of the front line within the last week, likely intended to stretch Ukrainian forces.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 21 February 2024
Russian Ground Forces have continued and highly likely increased their ground attacks on the Robotyne axis in southern Ukraine, which was recaptured by Ukraine during its counter-offensive in summer 2023. The village has remained on the frontline since.
The Russian 58th Combined Arms army and Russian Airborne Forces (VDV) operating in the area sustained heavy casualties during the Ukrainian counter-offensive. However, the lower operational tempo since, and continued Russian recruitment efforts have likely enabled Russian forces on this axis to reconstitute.
Russian forces have intensified attacks across several points of the front line within the last week, likely intended to stretch Ukrainian forces.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 5:38 am to cypher
SPRAVDI — Stratcom Centre
@StratcomCentre
Chipping away at the Russian terror machine..
Yet another Russian Su-34 aircraft was downed this morning at 7:30am.
We thank our allies for all the support!

@StratcomCentre
Chipping away at the Russian terror machine..
Yet another Russian Su-34 aircraft was downed this morning at 7:30am.
We thank our allies for all the support!
Posted on 2/21/24 at 6:46 am to GOP_Tiger
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This tactic is known as flooding the zone with bullshite.
e.g., from Ukrainian Pravda?
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UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson appeared in Kyiv almost without warning.
"Johnson brought two simple messages to Kyiv. The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they are not. We can sign [an agreement] with you [Ukraine], but not with him. Anyway, he will screw everyone over", is how one of Zelenskyy's close associates summed up the essence of Johnson's visit.
Behind this visit and Johnson's words, there is much more than a simple reluctance to get involved in agreements with Russia.
Johnson’s position was that the collective West, which back in February had suggested Zelenskyy should surrender and flee, now felt that Putin was not really as powerful as they had previously imagined.
Moreover, there is a chance to "press" him. And the West wants to use it.
Three days after Johnson, now the happy owner of a Vasylkiv rooster, flew back to foggy Albion, Putin went public and said talks with Ukraine "had reached a dead end".
Ukrainian Sources - May 2022
e.g., from European Pravda?
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All sources show a similar Ukraine vision of a peace deal. Key elements of it are outlined below.
(1) The peace treaty applies after the Russian army withdraws from the territory of Ukraine, except Crimea and the occupied Donbas area.
(2) Ukraine expects a group of world powers to offer security guarantees. Kyiv proposed the following guarantors' list: Russia, China, the U.S., Great Britain, France, Turkey, Germany, Canada, Italy, Poland, and Israel. However, not all of them have so far agreed to that. Details of this role are even less clear. Ukraine insists that the guarantors should pledge protection equal to Art. 5 of the NATO Washington Treaty, but it's rather unreal.
(3) These guarantees do not apply to the occupied Crimea and the occupied Donbas area. This would allow guarantor states not to be involved in the war on the first day after the ratification of the treaty.
(4) Instead, Ukraine limits its sovereignty in Security and Defence. Kyiv pledges non-accession to NATO or other military alliances and to change the Constitution for this purpose (now Ukraine). Ukraine appears ready to take much stronger obligations than just non-alignment. In particular, Kyiv proposes a ban on any foreign military contingent in Ukraine. Ukraine can conduct any joint military exercises on its soil and sea only with the consent of the guarantor states (including Russia).
(5) In exchange for giving up NATO, the EU Member States present among the guarantors (including Germany and France) guarantee Ukraine's assistance in joining the European Union.
(6) Ukraine and Russia are starting negotiations on the status of Crimea, which will last for 15 years. At the same time, the negotiators emphasize that the issues of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol will be considered separately (probably assuming a different agreement with Russia on them). Instead, Ukraine promises not to return Crimea by military means, but there is no such promise for Donbas.
(7) All this will work only if such an agreement is approved by referendum, ratified by Verkhovna Rada and the guarantor states. The process will begin only after the withdrawal of troops, as referred to in paragraph 1, but may fail at each stage of ratification.
European Pravda - 30 March 2022
e.g., From German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder?
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Schröder says that in 2022 he received a request from Ukraine with an offer to act as a mediator between Russia and Ukraine, conveying a message to Putin. According to the ex-chancellor, the current Minister of Defense Rustem Umerov participated in this process.
Schroeder said that then the negotiations between Kyiv and Moscow consisted of five main points:
1. Refusal of Ukraine's membership in NATO.
2. Abolition of Ukrainization laws prohibiting the Russian language in the public sphere. Ukraine was ready to discuss the return of the Russian language to Donbass.
3. Donbass remains part of Ukraine, but becomes an autonomy based on the model of South Tyrol in Italy (autonomy with special status).
4. Ukraine receives security guarantees from the UN Security Council and Germany (according to the “5+1” formula, which was supported, according to Schroeder, by Umerov)
5. Crimea, judging by Schroeder’s wording, remains with the Russian Federation: “Crimea for Russia is not just a piece of land, it is part of its history.” But the Ukrainians, he said, demanded negotiations on the status of the peninsula.
According to Schroeder, it was not possible to reach an agreement because “everything was decided in Washington.”
"I think that the Americans did not want a compromise between Ukraine and Russia. The Americans think that the Russians can be contained.
LINK
e.g., from the British Press?
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Why Peace Negotiations Between Russia And Ukraine Failed
On April 6, of British Prime Minister Boris Johnson “Johnson brought two simple messages to Kyiv. The first is that Putin is a war criminal; he should be pressured, not negotiated with. And the second is that even if Ukraine is ready to sign some agreements on guarantees with Putin, they [the NATO powers] are not” is how one of Zelenskyy’s negotiators associates, Savyd Arakmahia, summed up the gist of Johnson’s remarks. Three days after Johnson returned home Putin announced publicly that talks with Ukraine “had reached a dead end”. For his part Johnson promised Zelensky $130m of military equipment and $500m in in financial aid, while President Biden announced a $800m military package to Ukraine.
Johnson’s intervention has been discounted on the ground that he was in no position to tell the Ukrainian government what to do. This is legally correct, but vacuous. He was in a position to tell them whether NATO powers would be willing to join Russia in guaranteeing Ukrainian independence outside NATO, and under what conditions Britain (and the USA) would supply further military and economic aid. Had Johnson’s promise of support been conditional rather than unconditional, it is inconceivable that negotiations would not have continued.
The Wire
e.g., from American Sources?
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“Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”
LINK
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:18 am to cypher
All because of Ukraine, the nation whose military is all about fighting Russia will be joining NATO. Sweden is a big deal with the most powerful military in Northern Europe, except maybe Poland's land forces. Russian ships would not be able to get out of the Baltic Sea in a war.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:32 am to omegaman66
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Are you suggesting that the USA didn't stop the peace talks when Ukraine was readu to end the war with Russia???
Is Boris Johnson an American?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 7:32 am to GOP_Tiger
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This tactic is known as flooding the zone with bullshite. Everyone who knows anything about the war knows that it's false, but bots keep repeating it to convince new readers and also to keep the discussion away from other, more damaging topics. It's the kind of thing that bots are trained to do.
Exactly. The Russian propaganda playbook is outlined in many studies by the world's experts on this subject, the intelligence services of the Baltic States. For example: 'Estonia Reacts: Confronting Russian Manipulation Techniques'.
The primary Russian action is to broadcast multiple confusing, contradictory and logically impossible statements ostensibly from local government sources and aligned media. Readers and viewers quickly get frustrated by the lack of a cognitive, sensible description of events. So they get angry and stop following these events.
Russian win.
Secondly, the Russian propaganda makes victims of minority language speakers, mostly Russians living outside of Russia. Being denied an education in their native Russian language is the top complaint. Forget about whether or not it is true or even a valid complaint, that's not the point of the exercise. What the Russians want is a split in the population with one side being seemingly pro-Russian and therefore generating hatred for the Russian speakers. Result: internal civil disruption and violence based on ethnicity and language differences.
Russian win.
Further techniques abound but collectively they have been employed for decades. Because they still work.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:12 am to NC_Tigah
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NC_Tigah
Are you also going to post the articles where Putin says the talks fell apart because Bucha was orchestrated and Ukraine wanted security guarantees which Russia did not agree with?
Or the articles where Putin shot down a peace deal 3 days into the war?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:18 am to NC_Tigah
for anyone who actually wants to know the truth, here's the WSJ's chief foreign affairs correspondent, who has also now written a book on the conflict:
LINK
Did Ukraine Miss an Early Chance to Negotiate Peace With Russia?
The truth is that, after Bucha, the chance for a deal was zero.
It's was after that -- after Russia had pulled back from Kyiv and the horrors of Bucha were evident and all chance of a deal was already gone -- that Boris arrived in Kyiv.
All of this was obvious at the time. It's only now, now that Putinists are trying to change history, that it's even become a topic of discussion.
Peddling Putin's filth is loathsome. It says everything about your character.
LINK
Did Ukraine Miss an Early Chance to Negotiate Peace With Russia?
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The lead Ukrainian negotiator, David Arakhamia, pointed to a bottle of sanitizing gel on the table, covered by a crisp white cloth, as Russian and Ukrainian peace delegations gathered in Istanbul’s Dolmabahçe Palace.
“That’s an antiseptic,” Arakhamia told his Russian counterpart, President Vladimir Putin’s adviser Vladimir Medinsky.
“Ah, I thought it’s vodka,” Medinsky joked.
There was plenty of tension behind the jovial appearances during that pivotal meeting on March 29, 2022. Dmytro Kuleba, the Ukrainian foreign minister, had just publicly advised Ukrainian negotiators not to accept any beverages from the Russians and not to touch any surfaces, lest they be poisoned. After all, Russian forces were still at the gates of Kyiv, trying to overthrow President Volodymyr Zelensky and his government.
What actually happened on that momentous Tuesday and in the immediate aftermath has since turned into a matter of fundamental disagreement among Ukraine, Western nations and Russia. The Istanbul meeting has also emerged as a key point of discord in America’s own debate about the war, as indispensable U.S. aid to Ukraine remains stalled in Congress because of Republican opposition. Some argue that Ukraine blew a chance at the time to end the war. The real story paints a different, and far more complicated, picture.
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In the 19 days between the meeting in Antalya and the Istanbul talks, the battlefield situation shifted dramatically in Ukraine’s favor. All around Kyiv, nimble Ukrainian forces inflicted defeat after defeat on over-extended Russian units.
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Ukraine has vehemently disputed that account. Neither side made binding commitments in Istanbul, according to Kuleba. “There was no deal,” he said. “To engage in a conversation and to commit yourself to something are completely different things.” As for the Russian pullback, Ukrainian and American officials say Putin had no choice but to withdraw by late March because of Ukrainian military successes on the ground.
Col. Igor Girkin, a retired Russian intelligence officer and the former defense minister of a Russian proxy statelet in Donbas, agreed. “If leaving the seized territory has become inevitable, it’s best to do it before your troops are routed by the adversary,” he said shortly after the Istanbul announcements. “We will still need these troops—the war will be long.” Girkin has since been imprisoned in Moscow for criticizing Russian military failures.
On the evening of March 29, as the negotiators saluted each other in Istanbul and made plans to reconvene for the next round of talks, Ukrainian troops were already entering the town of Bucha near Kyiv. What the Ukrainians discovered there rendered moot any understanding reached in Istanbul.
The truth is that, after Bucha, the chance for a deal was zero.
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Like other northwestern suburbs in Kyiv’s green belt across the Irpin River, Bucha was a relaxed town of single-family homes and five-story housing blocks set amid pine trees, playgrounds, and parks. It had a handful of resorts, with swimming pools for the guests, and an equestrian club. As Ukrainian forces advanced into Bucha, they stumbled upon a horrifying sight: Dozens of bodies lay rotting under the rain on Yablunska Street and in surrounding areas. Some corpses were missing limbs, likely eaten by dogs, while others had brains spilling from cracked skulls.
As the soldiers probed further, they found several men, many of them stripped naked to their waists, executed and lying on the ground in the courtyard of 144 Yablunska Street. On sidewalks, in ditches and in improvised graves, there were other bodies with their hands tied. Some bore the signs of torture: poked-out eyes, cut-off fingers.
More than 450 civilians were killed in Bucha during the month the town was under Russian occupation. Atrocities had been occurring throughout occupied Ukraine, especially in Mariupol. But in Bucha, the Russian soldiers fled so fast that they hadn’t had the time to remove the evidence and conceal the scale of the slaughter.
As the footage from Bucha spread on social media, Zelensky—like most Ukrainians—was overwhelmed with fury. “The essence of evil has come to our land—murderers, torturers, rapists and looters who call themselves an army,” he said in an address to Ukrainians. “They have killed consciously, and with pleasure.”
Even though the Ukrainian and Russian negotiators remained in touch, fine-tuning the documents drafted in Istanbul the previous week, Zelensky signaled that the killings uncovered in Bucha had changed everything. “What has happened here is genocide,” he said, stern-faced, during his visit to the town—the first time he had left Kyiv since the invasion. “It is very hard to keep talking when you see what has happened here.”
It's was after that -- after Russia had pulled back from Kyiv and the horrors of Bucha were evident and all chance of a deal was already gone -- that Boris arrived in Kyiv.
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On April 9, British Prime Minister Boris Johnson arrived in a Kyiv transformed. He was one of the first Western leaders to brave the trip since the invasion. Less than two weeks had elapsed since the Istanbul talks and, despite Zelensky’s outrage, the Russian and Ukrainian negotiating teams still pursued contacts via Zoom.
“I was a bit worried at that stage,” Johnson recalled. “I could not see for the life of me what the deal could be, and I thought that any deal with Putin was going to be pretty sordid.” Sitting down with Zelensky in Kyiv, the British prime minister delivered his pitch: “Nobody can be more Ukrainian than Ukrainians, it is not for me to tell you what your war objectives can be, but as far as I am concerned, Putin must fail and Ukraine must be entitled to retain full sovereignty and independence. …. We’re not directly fighting, you are. It’s the Ukrainians who are fighting and dying. But we would back Ukraine a thousand percent.”
Zelensky didn’t need much convincing. The conversation quickly shifted to the concrete ways in which the United Kingdom could assist the Ukrainian armed forces, such as the provision of military supplies. It was the first trickle in what would become a flood of increasingly sophisticated Western weapons. Meanwhile, online talks between Ukrainian and Russian teams fizzled away.
All of this was obvious at the time. It's only now, now that Putinists are trying to change history, that it's even become a topic of discussion.
Peddling Putin's filth is loathsome. It says everything about your character.
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:41 am to StormyMcMan
I never really thought about the US and pre Pearl Harbor and how Lend Lease had come about. But its kind of crazy how history repeats itself Lend Lease Wiki
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In his December 29, 1940 Fireside Chat radio broadcast, President Roosevelt proclaimed the United States would be the "Arsenal of Democracy" and proposed selling munitions to Britain and Canada.[12] Isolationists were strongly opposed, warning it would result in American involvement with what was considered by most Americans as an essentially European conflict. In time, opinion shifted as increasing numbers of Americans began to consider the advantage of funding the British war against Germany, while staying free of the hostilities themselves.[17] Propaganda showing the devastation of British cities during The Blitz, as well as popular depictions of Germans as savage also rallied public opinion to the Allies, especially after Germany conquered France.
Lend-Lease proposaledit
After a decade of neutrality, Roosevelt knew that the change to Allied support must be gradual, given the support for isolationism in the country. Originally, the American policy was to help the British but not join the war. During early February 1941, a Gallup poll revealed that 54% of Americans were in favor of giving aid to the British without qualifications of Lend-Lease. A further 15% were in favor of qualifications such as: "If it doesn't get us into war," or "If the British can give us some security for what we give them." Only 22% were unequivocally against the President's proposal. When poll participants were asked their party affiliation, the poll revealed a political divide: 69% of Democrats were unequivocally in favor of Lend-Lease, whereas only 38% of Republicans favored the bill without qualification. At least one poll spokesperson also noted that "approximately twice as many Republicans" gave "qualified answers as ... Democrats."[18]
Opposition to the Lend-Lease bill was strongest among isolationist Republicans in Congress, who feared the measure would be "the longest single step this nation has yet taken toward direct involvement in the war abroad". When the House of Representatives finally took a roll call vote on February 8, 1941, the 260 to 165 vote was largely along party lines. Democrats voted 238 to 25 in favor and Republicans 24 in favor and 135 against.[19]
The vote in the Senate, which occurred on March 8, revealed a similar partisan difference: 49 Democrats (79 percent) voted "aye" with only 13 Democrats (21 percent) voting "nay". In contrast, 17 Republicans (63 percent) voted "nay" while 10 Senate Republicans (37 percent) sided with the Democrats to pass the bill
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:49 am to GOP_Tiger
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All of this was obvious at the time. It's only now, now that Putinists are trying to change history, that it's even become a topic of discussion.
It’s like the “not one inch” talk.
It was just talk and part of negotiations. There was no agreement.
These peace talks are the same thing. All talk, all what ifs, but the truth is Russia brutally tortured and killed hundreds. Who could deal with that?
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:51 am to StormyMcMan
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Opposition to the Lend-Lease bill was strongest among isolationist Republicans in Congress, who feared the measure would be "the longest single step this nation has yet taken toward direct involvement in the war abroad". When the House of Representatives finally took a roll call vote on February 8, 1941, the 260 to 165 vote was largely along party lines. Democrats voted 238 to 25 in favor and Republicans 24 in favor and 135 against.
House Speaker Sam Rayburn. God, to have leaders like that again...
Posted on 2/21/24 at 8:57 am to Coeur du Tigre
LINK
Exclusive: Iran sends Russia hundreds of ballistic missiles
Iran is intentionally leaking this to brag about it.
Exclusive: Iran sends Russia hundreds of ballistic missiles
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DUBAI, Feb 21 (Reuters) - Iran has provided Russia with a large number of powerful surface-to-surface ballistic missiles, six sources told Reuters, deepening the military cooperation between the two U.S.-sanctioned countries.
Iran's provision of around 400 missiles includes many from the Fateh-110 family of short-range ballistic weapons, such as the Zolfaghar, three Iranian sources said. This road-mobile missile is capable of striking targets at a distance of between 300 and 700 km (186 and 435 miles), experts say
An Iranian military official - who, like the other sources, asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the information - said there had been at least four shipments of missiles and there would be more in the coming weeks. He declined to provide further details.
Another senior Iranian official said some of the missiles were sent to Russia by ship via the Caspian Sea, while others were transported by plane.
Iran is intentionally leaking this to brag about it.
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"There will be more shipments," the second Iranian official said. "There is no reason to hide it. We are allowed to export weapons to any country that we wish to."
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