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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/9/24 at 1:17 pm to AU86
Posted on 2/9/24 at 1:17 pm to AU86
Germany was invaded by Napoleon, France was invaded by Germany. The English fought Napoleon and Germany. The English and the US fought on the same side as Russia did in both world wars.
So why should Russia be so paranoid especially about England and the US.?
Reality is Russia has been a volatile nation. They are fighting amongst themselves, they are fighting their neighbors and they don’t play nice.
So why should Russia be so paranoid especially about England and the US.?
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But remember, in a way they are paranoid as hell because historically they have been invaded many times. Napoleon, Hitler and even back before Napoleon.
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But remember, in a way they are paranoid as hell because historically they have been invaded many times. Napoleon, Hitler and even back before Napoleon.
Reality is Russia has been a volatile nation. They are fighting amongst themselves, they are fighting their neighbors and they don’t play nice.
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 1:20 pm to AU86
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Yes as you noted it did fail, but it was from internal factors.
But not from the result of invasion.
So...
Just like Communism in Russia.
I'm starting to notice a trend.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 2:13 pm to doubleb
Communism did not fail in the USSR because of invasion. My point is that by the Tsars, Stalin, etc. establishing Buffer Zones by controlling territory that worked in as far as security against being conquered by invasion. That strategic depth saved them against Hitler. Putin wants to reestablish that same depth/sphere of influence against what he perceives as a threat from the west (NATO bases in Ukraine and Georgia and US hegemony). Putin's goal is to disrupt/destroy that Unipolar World Order that was established when the Soviet Union fell which established US dominance. In Putin's mind it is the US being the aggressor. One can believe it or not, but he does or is at least using it to further his goal.
China is after the same goal but they are trying to do it economically, but when their military reaches a certain strength they will likely become more like Russia has been historically as in being aggressive in establishing empire and spheres of influence. There are examples of it happening in Asia right now. But China, as of right now, has something the USSR never had and that is the economic power also. And sadly, corporate greed and US politicians gave it to them.
China is after the same goal but they are trying to do it economically, but when their military reaches a certain strength they will likely become more like Russia has been historically as in being aggressive in establishing empire and spheres of influence. There are examples of it happening in Asia right now. But China, as of right now, has something the USSR never had and that is the economic power also. And sadly, corporate greed and US politicians gave it to them.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 2:36 pm
Posted on 2/9/24 at 2:24 pm to doubleb
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So why should Russia be so paranoid especially about England and the US.?
Did you grow up during the Cold War? How many times did Putin mention the CIA or coups during his interview with Carlson?
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Reality is Russia has been a volatile nation.
This I agree with. Aggressive during the days of the Tsars and Bolshevism really did a number on that society.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 3:50 pm to AU86
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Yes as you noted it did fail, but it was from internal factors.
But not from the result of invasion.
When the army joined the revolution, it was all over for the Tsars. Never forget that Germany, and its allies, had conquered almost all of what is now Ukraine, and Belarus. This included 34 % of the former empire's population, 54% of its industrial land, 89 % of its coalfields, and 26 % of its railroads ceded in the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk. It has also lost Finland.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:12 pm to ticklechain
ISW Update
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Key Takeaways:
The Russian online community noted that Russian President Vladimir Putin did not offer any new information in his interview with American media personality Tucker Carlson and simply repeated longstanding Kremlin talking points about Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine for American audiences.
Russian Security Council Deputy Chairperson Dmitry Medvedev noted that Putin told the Western world in the most thorough and detailed way why Ukraine did not exist, does not exist, and will not exist.
Delays in Western aid appear to be exacerbating Ukraine’s current artillery shortages and could impact Ukraine’s long-term war effort.
Newly appointed Ukrainian Commander-in-Chief Colonel General Oleksandr Syrskyi identified several of his goals as commander of the Ukrainian Armed Forces.
Ukrainian actors reportedly conducted a successful drone strike against two oil refineries in Krasnodar Krai on February 9.
Ukrainian military officials reported that Russian forces are increasing their use of illegal chemical weapons in Ukraine, in an apparent violation of the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), to which Russia is a signatory.
Bloomberg reported on February 9 that Ukraine is considering economic reforms in order to secure funding from the International Monetary Fund (IMF) in the event that the US Congress continues to block crucial aid.
Russian forces advanced near Kreminna, Bakhmut, and Avdiivka amid continued positional engagements along the frontline.
Russian paramilitary organization Novorossiya Aid Coordination Center (KCPN) is training drone operators in east (left) bank Kherson Oblast near Krynky.
Russian occupation authorities continue to prepare for the upcoming Russian presidential elections by creating the appearance of popular support for Russian Vladimir Putin in occupied areas of Ukraine.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 7:24 pm to ticklechain
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Oddly specific percentages
Why odd? Coal mine production is by tonnage. Rail is by miles of track and which part of Russia was developed East of the treaty line is pretty easy to determine.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 7:53 pm
Posted on 2/9/24 at 8:49 pm to AU86
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quote:So why should Russia be so paranoid especially about England and the US.?
Did you grow up during the Cold War? How many times did Putin mention the CIA or coups during his interview with Carlson?
Let’s see, Russia built an iron curtain, they tried to starve Berlin, and they were paranoid about us?
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:15 pm to AU86
quote:LMAO
But China, as of right now, has something the USSR never had and that is the economic power also
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:25 pm to CitizenK
You happen to have those exact figures sitting in front of you presently?
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:30 pm to ticklechain
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You happen to have those exact figures sitting in front of you presently?
Everyone seeing this post is also looking at a machine that can find statistics on just about any subject in the world with a few keystrokes or he just might have known them offhand.
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:35 pm to Obtuse1
I've been busy putting together a proposal for a NGL's frac plant.
While waiting for info from my contractor, I pulled the numbers from memory from several months ago. Maybe I got a few digits off but it is what it is.
Putin's faux history lesson prompted my memory
While waiting for info from my contractor, I pulled the numbers from memory from several months ago. Maybe I got a few digits off but it is what it is.
Putin's faux history lesson prompted my memory
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:38 pm to CitizenK
Interesting that Syrskyi defended Kyiv in the first month by allowing individual units latitude when opportunity presented itself. He did the same at Kharkiv with his gun run eastward taking back big chunks of territory.
Yalunsky was more a central command calls the shots type of fellow
Yalunsky was more a central command calls the shots type of fellow
Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:58 pm to CitizenK
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Interesting that Syrskyi defended Kyiv in the first month by allowing individual units latitude when opportunity presented itself. He did the same at Kharkiv with his gun run eastward taking back big chunks of territory.
He is definitely qualified to be in command. My buddy and other sauce(s) have mixed feelings about the move though.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:28 am to WeeWee
Lets see how he does without an unlimited supply of US toys....
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:31 am to StormyMcMan
Gerashchenko on the Kremlin's reactions to the interview:
"Russian Telegram channels reported that the interview with Carlson and Carlson himself was not to Putin's liking, and the interview itself was considered a failure:
"The Kovalchuk clan sharply criticizes the idea of an interview with the American journalist Carlson. They say that the problem is the unpreparedness of the interview arrangement - it was Gromov's and Peskov's mistake. Putin should have talked about conservative values, the creation of a conservative alliance, and moving on - but he went into history and platitudes about Ukraine. Naryshkin, who allegedly planted ideas with documents of Bohdan Khmelnytskyi and nonsense with Poland, also played a negative role here. He set Putin up to the fullest. Medinsky would not allow such a thing."
According to reports, Putin didn't like Tucker Carlson - "a snob and a useful idiot who got a meaningful fee, but was lazy and lacked creativity."
Kovalchuk family believes they could have done better with Tucker Carlson, but "everything was wasted." There's a wave of complaints in the Kremlin."
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"...a useful idiot who got a meaningful fee..."
There it is.
"Russian Telegram channels reported that the interview with Carlson and Carlson himself was not to Putin's liking, and the interview itself was considered a failure:
"The Kovalchuk clan sharply criticizes the idea of an interview with the American journalist Carlson. They say that the problem is the unpreparedness of the interview arrangement - it was Gromov's and Peskov's mistake. Putin should have talked about conservative values, the creation of a conservative alliance, and moving on - but he went into history and platitudes about Ukraine. Naryshkin, who allegedly planted ideas with documents of Bohdan Khmelnytskyi and nonsense with Poland, also played a negative role here. He set Putin up to the fullest. Medinsky would not allow such a thing."
According to reports, Putin didn't like Tucker Carlson - "a snob and a useful idiot who got a meaningful fee, but was lazy and lacked creativity."
Kovalchuk family believes they could have done better with Tucker Carlson, but "everything was wasted." There's a wave of complaints in the Kremlin."
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"...a useful idiot who got a meaningful fee..."
There it is.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:32 am to trinidadtiger
Typical press. The US has given more aid to ukraine than any other country, but now that they cant get more we are the evil one and europe is "stepping up".
The US did not promise anything, biden did, the same guy who told us Mexico would open the wall in Egypt. He is not very reliable these days.
The US did not promise anything, biden did, the same guy who told us Mexico would open the wall in Egypt. He is not very reliable these days.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 5:50 am to trinidadtiger
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 10 February 2024
On 31 January 2024, Ukraine conducted a strike on Russia's Belbek air base in Crimea, resulting in the destruction of a radar control coordination facility bunker. This will almost certainly degrade Russia's ability to coordinate air activity in the Black Sea region, increasing reliance and strain on the already stretched A-50 MAINSTAY aircraft fleet, as well as an increasingly depleted pool of trained personnel available to direct air operations.
Russian air doctrine relies heavily on ground control stations like the one at Belbek to coordinate its airborne assets, particularly fighters. This is especially prevalent during current combat operations where the airspace is contested and becoming increasingly complex.
It is almost certain that Russian pilots and ground personnel alike are now suffering from combat fatigue due to the demand of Ukraine operations. Any further strikes on critical coordination nodes in Crimea will almost certainly increase these pressures, creating a heightened possibility of mistake or miscalculation.
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 10 February 2024
On 31 January 2024, Ukraine conducted a strike on Russia's Belbek air base in Crimea, resulting in the destruction of a radar control coordination facility bunker. This will almost certainly degrade Russia's ability to coordinate air activity in the Black Sea region, increasing reliance and strain on the already stretched A-50 MAINSTAY aircraft fleet, as well as an increasingly depleted pool of trained personnel available to direct air operations.
Russian air doctrine relies heavily on ground control stations like the one at Belbek to coordinate its airborne assets, particularly fighters. This is especially prevalent during current combat operations where the airspace is contested and becoming increasingly complex.
It is almost certain that Russian pilots and ground personnel alike are now suffering from combat fatigue due to the demand of Ukraine operations. Any further strikes on critical coordination nodes in Crimea will almost certainly increase these pressures, creating a heightened possibility of mistake or miscalculation.
Posted on 2/10/24 at 6:05 am to cypher
I thought Putin was on his deathbed last year with incurable cancer? You idiots really will believe anything.
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