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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:29 am to
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:29 am to
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Not when the same Republicans refuse to do anything about the southern US border.


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TBoy

You're an absolute fricking imbecile.

Biden revoked 90+ trump EOs related to the border when he stepped into office. We have been told for three years the border was secure, totally under control. There are actual immigration laws on the books already that are not being enforced. So you want to blame republicans for not passing a border bill that was tied to Ukraine and Israel funding as well and normalized 5000 illegal crossings a day, or 1.8 million per year, before they shut it down (which is an admission they can shut that shite down)

You have democrat mayors and governors all over the country in self-declared "sanctuary cities" who are issuing states of emergency over 100k migrants, while Texas has been flooded with millions. Texas REPUBLICANS just proved that the border can be shut down if there is a desire.

Now go back to sucking off Zelensky.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 9:30 am
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:38 am to
Smiles and hugs today as President Zelenskyy presented General Zaluzhny with the Hero of Ukraine honour.

Twitter video
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:40 am to
The border issues have nothing to do with Ukraine, Israel, or Hamas.

You nailed it; it’s largely because Joe Biden opened up the borders and encouraged illegals to come into the US. The big cities and their policy of having sanctuary cities didn’t help either.

Our border problems are big not because we don’t have laws in place to lock the border down, or because of a lack of funds. It’s all because the president, his administration, and his party is for open borders.

This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 9:48 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:48 am to
Today, Finland promised another 190 million Euros of military assistance, and Norway promised another 10 NASAMS systems.

Ukraine's European allies are continuing to increase their levels of assistance.
Posted by AU86
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:51 am to
That bill from Lankford and the Dems was treasonous. No way that should have passed.
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Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 9:57 am to
I've talked to several people today who watched parts of the interview and all were surprised at how rational and reasonable Putin sounded.

It's sad that so many Biden fans in this thread and in our media continue to push the Matrix's narrative that Putin is Hitler 2.0

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Posted by AU86
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:00 am to
Putin is very smart. But that was a huge propaganda piece/win by him. It was fascinating to watch. Historical even. Putin left a lot of historical details/facts out of his history lesson though. In Putin's propaganda, Russia is never at fault and is always the victim. Alot of what Putin said in that interview was true historically, but remember he told his and/or the Russian version. Putin told it so well, anyone without knowledge of Pre WWI through post WWII would have been sold lock, stock and barrel. But trust me, he failed to include a lot of important details.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 10:14 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:07 am to
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It's sad that so many Biden fans in this thread and in our media continue to push the Matrix's narrative that Putin is Hitler 2.0

Maybe that has to do with actions speaking louder? Like the daily Russian missile barrages hitting Ukrainian civilian residential buildings? Just a thought...

By the way, what is the "Matrix"?
Posted by Paddyshack
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:10 am to
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Today, Finland promised another 190 million Euros of military assistance, and Norway promised another 10 NASAMS systems. Ukraine's European allies are continuing to increase their levels of assistance.

Good. Let them. We have enough problems on our homeland that need to be addressed before we send another nickel to support Zelensky and his band of Nazis.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:13 am to
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Putin is very smart. But that was a huge propaganda piece/win by him. It was fascinating to watch. Historical even. Putin left a lot of historical details/facts out of his history lesson though. In Putin's propaganda, Russia is never at fault and is always the victim.


I did notice he wasn’t very kind to really any of the Soviet leaders which brings us back to his goal not being the USSR, it’s the reformation of the peak Russian empire.
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:16 am to
GUR on Putin's interview with Carlson: This is Russian special operation

"It could not but be a special operation, of course, it is an influence measure, it is an IPSO. And yes, it is a Russian operation, because, in fact, the target audience of this interview is the free world, the Western world. We did not hear anything new there. In Ukraine, there is a common term "urban madmen". Here's a geopolitical madman who talks about some nonsense-about international law, about history-and decides which nation should exist and which should not. All this is nonsense, of course," he said.

The GUR representative said that the fact that the Russian special services and the Russian Federation spend enormous amounts of money to try to influence the Western audience suggests that this audience is important to them.

"And they understand that it is the ability to influence the democratic world, no matter how they call it in their propaganda shows, that is critically important to them. That is, this whole operation was an attempt to bring the voice of a fictional Putin to the very West they hate so much. It failed globally, of course, because we have already seen all the assessments of leading experts, political scientists, and politicians after this interview," Yusov said.

Ukrinform
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:19 am to
Putin is not a communist. He is a Tsarist. He has never wanted to go back to communism. Communism failed in the USSR. He is interested in empire and sphere of influence. Putin absolutely admires some of the Tsars.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:23 am to
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I did notice he wasn’t very kind to really any of the Soviet leaders which brings us back to his goal not being the USSR, it’s the reformation of the peak Russian empire.


This could well be about the downfall of the USSR which he has called the biggest calamity of the 20th Century.

It really doesn't matter if Tsarist, USSR or Russian Federation, it's still dominated by Russia and its want of an empire. He has previously stated that Russia's border stop nowhere.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:49 am to
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Putin left a lot of historical details/facts out of his history lesson though. In Putin's propaganda, Russia is never at fault and is always the victim. Alot of what Putin said in that interview was true historically, but remember he told his and/or the Russian version. Putin told it so well, anyone without knowledge of Pre WWI through post WWII would have been sold lock, stock and barrel. But trust me, he failed to include a lot of important details.


Less than 5% of the viewers watched or paid attention to that boring shite.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:50 am to
And yet so many in this thread openly praise Biden on Ukraine and view it as their number one issue.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 10:51 am
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:52 am to
Sweaty and unkempt, Volodymyr Zelenskyy is filth. Anyone who supports his gift at our expense is foolish.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 10:55 am
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:54 am to
He said that in a speech in 2005 in Russia. This is the quote from the speech:

"Above all, we should acknowledge that the collapse of the Soviet Union was a major geopolitical disaster of the century. As for the Russian nation, it became a genuine drama. Tens of millions of our co-citizens and co-patriots found themselves outside Russian territory. Moreover, the epidemic of disintegration infected Russia itself."

Notice he talks about the loss of millions of their co-citizens(loss of empire). He also said that with the collapse they had lost what it took 1000 years to build up. Putin has also said that anyone wanting to go back to the Soviet Union doesn't have a brain. He isn't talking about the loss of empire (he regrets and longs for that), he means Communism(A failed system in the Soviet Union.
When he mentions effecting Russia itself he means
economically. Russia suffered dramatically during those times. Putin remembers this and he has never forgiven how the west treated Russia during that time. They(capitalist barons) came in and took and stole everything. Oligarchs were established who got filthy rich. The west took advantage of the situation and Putin has never forgiven. After Putin took power, he ended this by kicking out the ones from the west and taking for himself the wealth from many of the Russian oligarchs. He stabilized the situation for the Russian people and they loved him for it. Russian strong man is what they love.
The west kicked/humiliated Russia hard when they were down. Attitude of to the Victors go the spoils! Putin has never forgot that.
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 11:01 am
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:54 am to
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I've talked to several people today who watched parts of the interview and all were surprised at how rational and reasonable Putin sounded.


Do you see saying that you are easily influenced by others, and you are a follower who runs with the pack.

You are exactly the type person Putin is trying to fool.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:54 am to
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SirWinston

Says the guy that constantly deep-throats Putin
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 10:56 am to
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Do you see saying that you are easily influenced by others, and you are a follower who runs with the pack.


I am proudly unvaccinated for COVID, even losing a peachy job opportunity because of my firm refusal to take the jabs. I am openly Populist / Nationalist in the most liberal city in America. I have also been openly against the Biden / Ukraine grift from before the start of this war. To call me a "follower" is absurd on its face.

frick Volodymyr Zelenskyy the rat for stabbing Trump in the back when fellow globalist Alexander Vindmann and others attacked DJT to prop up Biden in the lead up to 2020.

Trump did much to help Ukraine, and that sweaty slob Volodymyr couldn't even muster a simple "I don't see the controversy over this phone call. President Trump has been a tremendous ally."
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 11:02 am
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