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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 7/3/23 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 7:45 pm to

Thanks
Posted by NOLATiger163
Insane State of NOLA
Member since Aug 2018
628 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:44 pm to
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Here is a picture of the Bismark with deceptive cammo note they even painted bow and stern wakes on the sides.
Dr Robert Ballard taught me things didn’t work out too well for the Bismarck.
I don't want to go TOO far OT, but for those of you who might be interested, here's a photo of a battleship much more familiar to many of us, the U.S.S. Alabama, in wartime camouflage:



Obvious the Alabama survived the war and Bismarck did not--not that I think their respective camouflage schemes were major factors in that.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 9:48 pm
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:50 pm to
Radar made it obsolete
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8182 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:54 pm to
There is something about the big battleships that I just love.

When the US refurbished the four Iowa class ships under Reagan, they were the epitome of FU power when paired with a carrier battle group.

It was awesome to see them in action again during GW1.
This post was edited on 7/3/23 at 9:55 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73980 posts
Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:55 pm to
quote:

don't want to go TOO far OT, but for those of you who might be interested, here's a photo of a battleship much more familiar to many of us, the U.S.S. Alabama, in wartime camouflage:


Painting ships in camouflage really got started during WWI when the Allies began using it to confuse German U-Boats.



It was meant to confuse the U-Boat as to the speed and direction of the ship so the U-Boat would struggle to to come up with a torpedo firing solution to target the Allied ship.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 7/3/23 at 9:58 pm to
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Painting ships in camouflage really got started during WWI when the Allies began using it to confuse German U-Boats.


Dazzle camouflage.

Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8657 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:41 am to
Well now we know how Ukraine got the Storm Shadow up and working so fast for them. They UK smartly just took the weapons pylons off of their retired Tornado fighter-bomber and bolted them to the weapons pylons of the Su-24s . War is the mother of all invention. Really a genius move though and a logical one.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30652 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 1:45 am to
Buckle up, we have less than 48 hours now. Been nice knowing everyone.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
21181 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 2:54 am to
Lol 15k for survival supplies. What a great employer.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5727 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 4:51 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 04 July 2023

In recent weeks, Russia has prioritised and refined tactics aimed at slowing Ukrainian armoured counter-offensive operations in southern Ukraine.

The core of this approach has been Russia's very heavy use of anti-tank mines. In some areas the density of its minefields indicate that it has likely used many more mines than laid down in its military doctrine. Having slowed the Ukrainian advance, Russia has then attempted to strike Ukrainian armoured vehicles with one-way attack uncrewed aerial vehicles, attack helicopters and artillery.

Although Russia has achieved some success with this approach in the early stages of Ukraine's counter-offensive, its forces continue to suffer from key weaknesses, especially overstretched units and a shortage of artillery munitions.
This post was edited on 7/4/23 at 4:51 am
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:06 am to
Wagner Grey Zone blog on Bakhmut: LINK

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On the Bakhmut sector of the front, despite being deflected by the enemy, the situation is generally getting worse every day. Or at least a day later. The enemy does not abandon attempts to cut off our flanks.

So, for example, on the right flank to the north-west of Bakhmut, the 56th separate motorized infantry brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, advancing from Orekhovo-Vasilyevka, is trying to cut off the ledge, which we hold in defense from the settlement of Dubovo-Vasilyevka.

At the moment, this ledge not only provides cover for the flank of Bakhmut’s defense, but in fact it is a section controlled by us with dominant heights, the surrender of which will have very deplorable consequences, up to the unblocking of the Bakhmut-Slavyansk road, since in these conditions Berkhovka will have to leave almost without a fight.

At the same time, the 92nd separate mechanized brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is trying to cut off this ledge from the other side. There is also an enemy advance in this area and in the frontal part of the ledge. The enemy is aware of the importance of the area under his control and is trying to take this territory in small steps.

On the left flank of Bakhmut, the situation is no worse and no better - also consistently difficult. Over the last month, the enemy pushed our forces of the 72nd separate motorized rifle brigade of the Russian Armed Forces and the Storm-Z detachments, consisting of prisoners, over the line of the Seversky Donets-Donbass Canal to its left bank. The bridgehead on the right bank was occupied by the Wagner Group to develop an offensive to the west - an attempt to flank Chasov Yar, or immediately attempt a breakthrough to Konstantinovka. But history took its course.

Despite the worthy resistance of the 4th separate motorized rifle brigade of the Russian Armed Forces (formerly NM LPR) and adjacent allied units, the 5th separate assault brigade of the Ukrainian Armed Forces was able to develop success south of Ivanovsky towards Kleshcheevka, in case of surrender of which one from the southern roads to Bakhmut.

But I can assume that before trying to move close to Kleshcheevka and take it by storm, there will be an attempt to take Kurdyumovka, where the other day the enemy occupied the last zones held by the Russian Armed Forces on the “right bank” of the Seversky Donets-Donbass canal, now the gray zone between the enemy and Kurdyumovka is only a water canal dam.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 6:14 am to
Oh and here's Girkin: LINK

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Apparently, the enemy resumed the offensive on the Vremevsky ledge, heavy fighting is reported, alarming information comes from the area north of Bakhmut, just where the understaffed units of the 3rd Army Corps are deployed on our side. The enemy in that area has an advance, how deep - I can’t say, there is little information. But there urgently went reserves.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 7:37 am to


I saw that floating around Twitter and put it in a group chat to make fun of it and someone actually posted it being serious

Man I hope they enjoy the last 4th of July ever
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 8:57 am to
we unironically live in a world where our countrymen will believe a 4chan post

tbh we kinda deserve everything we get
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66135 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:01 am to
quote:

I saw that floating around Twitter and put it in a group chat to make fun of it and someone actually posted it being serious


I'm not sure he was posting it seriously.
Posted by ticklechain
Forgotten coast
Member since Mar 2018
834 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:13 am to
I agree to a point. They have proven themselves to be pretty spot in through the years. Hell they were all over that dude and his classified info dump a while back that was not so good for ukraine.its a honeypot for sure, but I've seen those dudes go ham more than a few times on someone. You don't want the autists on your trail. Kinda have to let their shite play out to determine if it's bs or not. If it's not it usually unfolds pretty quickly.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4691 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:16 am to
ISW Update Juky 3rd

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Key Takeaways:

Ukrainian forces conducted counteroffensive operations in at least four sectors of the front and made marginal advances on July 3.

Russian milbloggers have seized on recent Ukrainian activity on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast to call for an increased presence of small river vessels and equipment in the Dnipro River to prevent further Ukrainian advances.

Russian Security Council Deputy Chairperson Dmitry Medvedev published an essay that reamplified inflammatory Russian rhetoric towards Ukraine and the West, likely to undermine support for Ukraine at the upcoming NATO summit

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu reiterated boilerplate rhetoric about the current state of the war in Ukraine and the Wagner Group rebellion on July 3.

Russian forces continued drone and missile strikes against rear areas in Ukraine overnight and during the day on July 3.

The Kremlin continues to use tools of digital authoritarianism to surveil Russia’s domestic population and aims to expand domestic production of surveillance technology.

Ukrainian and Russian forces continued limited attacks on the Svatove-Kreminna line and south of Kreminna.

Russian and Ukrainian forces continued ground attacks in the Bakhmut area.

Ukrainian forces reportedly continued limited ground attacks in western Donetsk Oblast, near the Donetsk-Zaporizhia oblasts administrative border, and in western Zaporizhia Oblast.

Official Russian sources continue to claim that Russian forces repel all Ukrainian assaults on the east (left) bank of Kherson Oblast near the Antonivsky Bridge.

The Wagner Group is reportedly suspending regional recruitment on a temporary basis.

Russian officials continue efforts to portray Russia as a safe custodian of Ukrainian children while inadvertently confirming that Russia is facilitating mass deportations of Ukrainian children to the Russian Federation.


Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
4156 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 9:34 am to
The autist-detective shite is usually good.

The “my dad works at Nintendo” type shite is almost always a meme.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
21027 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 12:25 pm to
Yesterday:


Today:



As I've said, I don't take Ukrainian claims as gospel truth, but if the real numbers are half that, then the Ukrainian strategy in the south is working.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38495 posts
Posted on 7/4/23 at 3:23 pm to
Bad time to be a Russian artillery crew if those numbers are correct
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