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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:09 am to Draconian Sanctions
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You keep your safety on when you’re not about to use your gun, right?
This is more like leaving your gun at the camp when you might need it at home.
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:11 am to Lonnie Utah
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I'm sorry I'm not privy to classified information.
I just assume all OTers have top brass connections. 
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:12 am to LSUBoo
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I just assume all OTers have top brass connections.
Have an upvote.This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 9:13 am
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:15 am to stout
quote:How many do you think the US has in the Black sea?
Right. I wonder how many Russian subs are in international waters just off of the USA. Isn't everything past 12 nautical miles considered international waters? That means a Ruskie sub could be just chilling closer to us than some oil platforms.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:15 am to Lonnie Utah
Am I naive to think China has a chance to play world savior here and make the US look meek in the process?
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:19 am to Pettifogger
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Am I naive to think China has a chance to play world savior here and make the US look meek in the process?
How would they play world savior?
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:21 am to Ed Osteen
If they were able to step in and mediate a ceasefire I guess? 
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:22 am to J Murdah
Wonder if they'll show up on my boat sonar?
They better not be fricking with my mangrove snappa
They better not be fricking with my mangrove snappa
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:23 am to Ed Osteen
quote:If they were to turn on Putin and help impose some sanctions. I do think it is a good opportunity for China to come out ahead of the US
How would they play world savior?
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:28 am to Snafu Sam
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It was always wishful thinking. NATO isn’t going to get anywhere near this fight. Russia will overwhelm what’s left of the Ukrainian military soon enough. The western powers will make a show of supporting the insurgency for a while but eventually we’ll get bored and abandon them. The sanctions will gradually be eased up too over the course of the next year. Wayyyy too much money is going to be left on the table by keeping Russia completely isolated. Everything you’re seeing now is just for show.
Sounds like you're wishcasting from a Putin point of view.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:28 am to CharlesLSU
WTF is wrong with you?
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:30 am to stout
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Right. I wonder how many Russian subs are in international waters just off of the USA. Isn't everything past 12 nautical miles considered international waters? That means a Ruskie sub could be just chilling closer to us than some oil platforms.
I'd be surprised if there is a single Russian boomer that doesn't have a US attack sub trailing it the moment it leaves it's base.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 9:38 am
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:31 am to Centinel
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Name one battle lost by the US military in Afghanistan.
I'm always gonna view Takur Ghar as an L.
Edit to add operation red wings/Abbas Ghar.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 9:48 am
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:32 am to Methuselah
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Sounds like you're wishcasting from a Putin point of view
In this case, he is probably right. I think Poland has some spare Migs that they want to give to Ukraine, but I doubt there’s a “neutral” way to fly them directly into Ukraine via Polish air bases.
The only legitimate way to get them in is to drive them in on large bed trucks that would be sitting ducks for Russian bombs.
Edit: I meant to clarify that this might be the case in the specific instance of the proposed jet fighter delivery. Stingers and guns can be more easily and more legitimately delivered to Ukraine provided that the government doesn’t completely collapse and a Russian puppet government doesn’t proclaim sovereignty and declare way against any nation that delivers arms to insurgents.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 9:36 am
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:36 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Wonder if they'll show up on my boat sonar?
They better not be fricking with my mangrove snappa
If any Cajuns find them raising their traps those Ruskis gonna be floating in the gulf. (Actually had an old guy tell me and my friends that one time - except it was the river we'd be floating in. I'm proud to say I didn't raise anyone's traps. Can't vouch for the miscreants that were with me though).
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:36 am to LSUBoo
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going to be real awkward when Germany shows up to the WWIII red carpet party in the same dress as the USA, UK, and France.
Never underestimate Germany’s ability to do something stupid to try to frick over Britain and France though.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:37 am to Pettifogger
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Am I naive to think China has a chance to play world savior here and make the US look meek in the process?
Yes, because they have a vested interest in Russia taking Ukraine so they can take Taiwan. If the Ukrainians successfully fend off Russia, then China will likely not invade Taiwan. Taiwan is like the Eastern Switzerland and will be much harder to take than Ukraine despite its size. They’ve got bunkers in the mountains in the middle of the country, and it will be a bitch and a half to weed the people out of those bunkers.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 9:44 am
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:40 am to OMLandshark
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Yes, because they have a vested interest in Russia taking Ukraine so they can take Taiwan. If the Ukrainians successfully fend off Russia, than China will likely not invade Taiwan. Taiwan is like the Eastern Switzerland and will be much harder to take than Ukraine despite its size. They’ve got bunkers in the mountains in the middle of the country, and it will be a bitch and a half to weed the people out of those bunkers.
I don't think China's plans with regard to Taiwan will be at all influenced by the on the ground realities of the Ukraine invasion.
I do think they'll look to world reaction and adjust accordingly.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:42 am to Ed Osteen
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How would they play world savior?
By threatening Russia with true isolation. That's a dangerous prospect of course, but so long as China and their 30 year gas deal is unaffected Russia has a huge economic engine, source of power and influence still remaining and not in opposition to them.
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:43 am to Pettifogger
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I don't think China's plans with regard to Taiwan will be at all influenced by the on the ground realities of the Ukraine invasion.
Oh yes it is. They’re paying attention to this situation very closely to see how this works out for Russia. If Kiev surrenders today, I guarantee by next week our satellites will pick up that they’ll be massing up troops on the southeast coast. This is the elephant in the room with the invasion of Ukraine.
This post was edited on 3/1/22 at 9:44 am
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