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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:43 am to
Posted by Palmetto98
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:43 am to
The granny’s can stop nukes with their Molotov missile defense system
Posted by stout
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:44 am to
Posted by deltaland
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:45 am to
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want this Cold War hangover to be over with. Zelenskyy is playing the world by literally massacring his civilians and potentially others with his performance! Russia invaded because our governments were too stupid and greedy to come to a resolution.


How far is Putins cock down your throat?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:45 am to
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Oh yes it is. They’re paying attention to this situation very closely to see how this works out for Russia. If Kiev surrenders today, I guarantee by next week our satellites will pick up that they’ll be massing up troops on the southeast coast.



As a data point I think it's pretty useless, or at least no more useful than any other conflict observed by any war-waging nation. What's more, it's unnecessary. I'm sure China has warplanned the Taiwan actions and contingencies to death.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:47 am to
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In this case, he is probably right. I think Poland has some spare Migs that they want to give to Ukraine, but I doubt there’s a “neutral” way to fly them directly into Ukraine via Polish air bases.


Perhaps, but that guy and a couple of other posters have been wishcaasting success for all things Putin and woe is me for all things western democracy for awhile now.

I'm old enough to remember how when I was little the old Soviet Union was looked on that way - like they were the Alabama of college football or the John Curtis of Louisiana high school football- almost invincible. Until they collapsed. (Come to think if it Bama and Curtis have not been so invincible lately either).
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:47 am to
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As a data point I think it's pretty useless, or at least no more useful than any other conflict observed by any war-waging nation. What's more, it's unnecessary. I'm sure China has warplanned the Taiwan actions and contingencies to death.


And Russia hasn’t with Ukraine? This invasion is going much worse than Putin and his generals expected. Taiwan is going to take months to conquer since they will not be bombing them on mass as we’re seeing in Ukraine. It’s going to take a while for China to take Taiwan.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:47 am to
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From Russia? 30 min. From a submarine? 5 minutes.


You think a russian boomer could make it close enough to the US coast for a five minute missile launch?

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No.


GMD, THAAD, and AEGIS all say hello.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:48 am to
All 13.21 cm.....
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:49 am to
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Oh yes it is. They’re paying attention to this situation very closely to see how this works out for Russia. If Kiev surrenders today, I guarantee by next week our satellites will pick up that they’ll be massing up troops on the southeast coast. This is the elephant in the room with the invasion of Ukraine.


Even if you’re right, something like that would take at least a year to operationalize properly
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:50 am to
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You think a russian boomer could make it close enough to the US coast for a five minute missile launch?


Are we going to sink one in international waters when we’re not at war with them?

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GMD, THAAD, and AEGIS all say hello.
I was under the impression that these were more regional/tactical defensive systems not really designed for long range ICBMs. Am I wrong?
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:51 am to
Why would Xi do that knowing that they did a hostile takeover of HK and nobody in the west blinked an eye? They don't need to use military force.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:53 am to
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Are we going to sink one in international waters when we’re not at war with them?


We know where they all are. They are tracked the moment they leave port. They are not getting anywhere near the US coast with any sort of aggressive movement.

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Am I wrong?


Yes.

The GMD system is specifically designed to intercept ICBMs in space.
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:53 am to
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Why would Xi do that knowing that they did a hostile takeover of HK and nobody in the west blinked an eye? They don't need to use military force.
Those two situations aren’t even close to being similar
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:55 am to
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Even if you’re right, something like that would take at least a year to operationalize properly


I actually agree. It will take a long time to take Taiwan since those people will fight to the death and there are hundreds if not thousands of bunkers in the middle of the mountains.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:56 am to
While the environment *gestures generally at everything* favors a Taiwan invasion

I question whether it's a risk China wants to take considering it's more or less eating the lunch of the West as it is. I don't see an artificial clock of the type we've discussed for Ukraine (Putin's health, for example, or NATO membership) compelling the Chinese to urgency.
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
108 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:57 am to
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They are not getting anywhere near the US coast with any sort of aggressive movement.
Even if we know exactly where they are, what are we going to do to stop them from sitting 30 miles off the coast of DC?
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 9:59 am to
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Even if we know exactly where they are, what are we going to do to stop them from sitting 30 miles off the coast of DC?


They can sit there all they want. And the minute they posture to launch, the fast attack sub tracking them will sink them.

You don't think we don't know the exact movements and preparations for launch that have to be made?

You've watched too much The Hunt for Red October.

Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:01 am to
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I question whether it's a risk China wants to take considering it's more or less eating the lunch of the West as it is. I don't see an artificial clock of the type we've discussed for Ukraine (Putin's health, for example, or NATO membership) compelling the Chinese to urgency.


China’s only real deadline to taking Taiwan is 2025 when Trump or DeSantis is President. Summer 2022 seems to be the perfect time to invade Taiwan. As noted by people here, it will take quite sometime to take the island, so if Xi is going to invade, now is the time. And the weather is like San Diego year round (outside of the mountains) so that’s not going to deter him from taking the cities and coast.
Posted by Snafu Sam
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:03 am to
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You've watched too much The Hunt for Red October.
To be honest, it kinda sounds like you have
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 3/1/22 at 10:03 am to
Here's some good video of a chopper going down. I can't confirm if it's new or if it's actually Russian equipment. I just know ol baw doing the recording is very excited when the helo goes down

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