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Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:07 pm to Pettifogger
There are supplies for an entire Division at Rostov as well as the Black Sea HQ.
The big question is how much of the Russian military will join up with Wagner. There are lots of veterans who detest this shitshow of Russian strategy and tactics and corruption
The big question is how much of the Russian military will join up with Wagner. There are lots of veterans who detest this shitshow of Russian strategy and tactics and corruption
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:08 pm to MAXtheTIGER
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Reported clash between Wagner and Russian forces near Rostov
Can anyone explain the significance of Wagner going to Rostov-on-don?
1. It is a major logistical point for supplies moving to Ukraine.
2. The Southern Military District headquarters is in Rostov which is where the Russian military leaders running the war in Ukraine are.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:10 pm to Pettifogger
What page is the post you are referencing on, I must have missed it.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:11 pm to CitizenK
quote:is there confirmation of this Wagner coup attempt or whatever it is or is this still very speculative? I’m still catching up.
The big question is how much of the Russian military will join up with Wagner.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:12 pm to WDE24
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Pretty sincere and direct observation. Again, detox may help if you confuse it for trolling. Everything isn’t an internet debate tactic.
I don't believe you, obviously. But I try not to shy away from self assessment - so what's the "drift" and what you think I need to "detox" from?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:13 pm to Chromdome35
Seeing conflicting reports with the same video
Either Russian regulars or Wagner are outside of the Southern Military District HQ in Rostov with tanks and all thar jazz
Eta
The picture in this tweet makes me think Wagner
LINK
If it is Wagner it's about to get a whole lot more interesting
Either Russian regulars or Wagner are outside of the Southern Military District HQ in Rostov with tanks and all thar jazz
Eta
The picture in this tweet makes me think Wagner
quote:
Wagner technical outside of the Russian Southern Military District Headquarters in Rostov
LINK
If it is Wagner it's about to get a whole lot more interesting
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 9:18 pm
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:14 pm to Chromdome35
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What page is the post you are referencing on, I must have missed it.
I suppose the one that got me labeled a "tankie" - but pretty much all of my posts on this topic are the same
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:15 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:16 pm to Pettifogger
Cut the stupid bullshydt and lets get back to the topic of this thread. Carry on your private back and forth elsewhere.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:17 pm to StormyMcMan
If it is Wagner they got there pretty fast, there couldn't have been much resistance.
The most direct route from their border crossing spot earlier today is 84km. Thats a long way to go in a pretty short time for a military convoy under combat conditions.
The most direct route from their border crossing spot earlier today is 84km. Thats a long way to go in a pretty short time for a military convoy under combat conditions.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:18 pm to Chromdome35
Here's another video showing large numbers of Wagner troops entering the HQ of the Southern Military District in Rostov.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:18 pm to Pettifogger
quote:my suggestion would be a detox from politically focused news/opinion/social media/etc. just backing away from it all for a mental rest and reset. I’ve offered my thought. Think about it in another moment or don’t.
so what's the "drift" and what you think I need to "detox" from?
No need to derail the thread any longer. That is my fault.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 9:23 pm
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:19 pm to Chromdome35
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The most direct route from their border crossing spot earlier today is 84km
That's pretty damn impressive since it took them a year to take Bakhmut
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:19 pm to Chromdome35
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1672428675420110848
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672428424030306304
Picture from Rostov
quote:
Breaking: Head of the Wagner PMC group Prigozhin says that they have shot down another helicopter
https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672428424030306304
quote:
Wagner technical outside of the Russian Southern Military District Headquarters in Rostov
Picture from Rostov
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 9:22 pm
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:21 pm to StormyMcMan
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Prigozhin says they have shot down another Russian helicopter.
"We are dying for our homeland, we are dying for the Russian people, who must be liberated from those people who are hitting the civilians"
LINK
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:24 pm to GOP_Tiger
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Nah, conservatism has always meant supporting freedom and opposing murderous, genocidal dictators who try to conquer other nations.
Ehh... have to disagree w/you there.
We've supported way too many POS dictators under Republican Presidents for a variety of reasons for that to be true at all.
This post was edited on 6/23/23 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:26 pm to StormyMcMan
Are there any curated YouTube types to follow that aggregate this stuff in real time and discuss it?
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:27 pm to Dr RC
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We've supported way too many POS dictators under Republican Presidents for that to be true at all.
This is true.
Posted on 6/23/23 at 9:28 pm to StormyMcMan
Lots of people are pointing out that it's clear that a number of Russian military units have either joined with Wagner or are at least disinclined to fight them.
Again, whether Wagner has calculated properly is hard to tell, but it's clear that this is a well-planned operation that they are conducting.
Again, whether Wagner has calculated properly is hard to tell, but it's clear that this is a well-planned operation that they are conducting.
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