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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:24 am to Chromdome35
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:24 am to Chromdome35
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The big operation to expel the Americans from Syria has started
This would line up with that tweet I found a few days ago that Iran and Russia were planning to try something. I'll reiterate what I said then, will be interesting if anything actually comes of it
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:26 am to Chromdome35
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The minefields are the biggest challenge for Ukraine's offensive
Agreed. Although if that one source is correct they are also impacting areas where the Russians are trying to retreat. Double edged sword it sounds like.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:29 am to StormyMcMan
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Iran and Russia were planning to try something
They will get their proxies to throw up some drones and then their proxies get blown the frick up.
To a degree Syria is scripted and if Russia gets off the script they will be punished.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 10:47 am to TBoy
quote:And Stidham8 was declaring victory for the Russians at this point in that counteroffensive as well.
This offensive is, what, 50 hours in? No one has a clue what’s actually going on or where the push will actually be focused. As I recall, the offensive in Kherson took about six weeks to produce the dramatic breakthrough that we saw in 2022.
He's the type of guy that calls a game over when the first quarter ends 7-0.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 10:49 am
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:21 am to northshorebamaman
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He's the type of guy that calls a game over when the first quarter ends 7-0.
In all fairness, there are a lot of posters on this site that call a game over after the 1st quarter/half/inning if their team is down by 1 point. But yea, the entire Ukrainian eastern front is collapsing.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:44 am to Chromdome35
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ETA: The minefields are the biggest challenge for Ukraine's offensive.
The big difference, though, between a MRAP running over a mine and the Russian BMPs that ran over mines assaulting Vuhledar is that the Ukrainians in the MRAP survive, and the Russians in the BMPs do not.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:44 am to LSUPilot07
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But the video of the Bradley platoon and the Leopard tank getting blown up is just flat out bad discipline by that unit’s commander. They never should have been packed together like that. Yes you have to follow the mine clearer but you can still do that with proper separation.
I've watched several videos from different angles and what I can gather is that at least two of the Bradley's hit mines by driving into the berm that the mine clearer pushes aside with it's plow. Of course there is going to be a higher concentration of mines in the berm because that's where the cleared mines end up. All the vehicles that stayed between the berms on either side of the cleared path took no damage.
I'm not sure if they are still getting a feel for this equipment since it's the first time we've seen them in combat, or if they just panicked and lost discipline. Either way it's not ideal. On the bright side, that Bradley that took the mine right in front of the turret camera view is a testament to the crew survivability of these vehicles. They took a Soviet/Russian AT mine blast and 6 of them got out and coordinated an evac. Now they can go tell their buddies that they can live to fight another day in this western equipment which should have some positive impact on morale.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:44 am to Chromdome35
NTY,
What is the endpoint of this? Say Ukraine pushes Russia back to the original border. Do they stop or keep going?
What is the endpoint of this? Say Ukraine pushes Russia back to the original border. Do they stop or keep going?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:48 am to Bwmdx
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What is the endpoint of this? Say Ukraine pushes Russia back to the original border. Do they stop or keep going?
Ukraine has given absolutely no indication that they want to invade and conquer Russia. None. Zero. The only nation with invasion frenzy is Russia.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:48 am to StormyMcMan
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Looking at a map that's north of Kherson. Just curious if there is something important troops being there since it's in Ukrainkan held territory
It took me a while to figure out. There's that Blahodatne north of Kherson, there's one in western Ukraine, there's another just north of Bakhmut (and that's what I was thought the tweet was about at first), and there's another just southeast of Vuhledar that I thought might be what was referenced.
But, no, this is the Blahodatne where unit with the AMX-10s are working in southern Donetsk Oblast, just south of Velyka Novosilka. Indicates that they are still making progress.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:02 pm to TBoy
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This offensive is, what, 50 hours in? No one has a clue what’s actually going on or where the push will actually be focused.
Yeah, Ukraine is being very mindful of OPSEC and releasing very few videos, so all we get is from Russia. I thought that Andrew Perpetua had an interesting comment. He said:
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Remember that meme everyone talks about regarding airplanes in ww2. where they return with shots in certain places etc. Apply this concept to the locations russians are posting videos of failed ukrainian assaults.
I haven't seen any video yet from Ukraine's assault last night south of Huliapole.
As I said yesterday, we still haven't seen a Challenger, Stryker, or CV-90 in action. Those brigades either have not entered the fight, or they are kicking butt and the Russians don't have any good video because they don't want us to see what's been happening.
We are indeed at the very beginning of this offensive, and there are so many questions that we cannot answer.
- How much ammo does each side have available?
- How effective can Ukraine be with its counter-battery artillery at taking out Russian guns?
- With the tremendous amounts of ammo and fuel being used, how good are the logistics for each side, and how effective will the Ukrainians be with HIMARS and Storm Shadow in preventing resupply? And yes, most obviously, as you say TBoy,
- Where will the main thrust of the offensive take place?
Anyone right now predicting the outcome of all this is just throwing darts at the wall.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:02 pm to IAmNERD
The gunner on the Bradley providing covering fire for the hit Bradley was extremely reckless though which has me questioning their discipline. He was unloading with the the chain gun literally a foot or two from the hit Bradley that men were evacuating from and through a smokescreen where he couldn’t tell if the Bradley had rolled forward a few feet or if troops were directly in his line of fire. He just kept unloading. If that were me trying to get out of that hit Bradley I’m not sure if I would be more inclined to thank the guy for providing covering fire or if I’d be more tempted to yank him out of that turret and beat his arse.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:14 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:16 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:50 pm to GOP_Tiger
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the reservoir is already gone
I bet that place reeks right now.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 12:54 pm to Obtuse1
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I bet that place reeks right now
My senses are remembering what my front yard smelled like after the 2016 BR flood.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 1:06 pm to northshorebamaman
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And Stidham8 was declaring victory for the Russians at this point in that counteroffensive as well
The fact that he predicted victory basically seals the opposite will happen. He’s notoriously wrong in almost everything he predicts site wide. The SEC board Auburn prediction threads are notorious.
Ukrainian victory-2000 odds now, IMO
Posted on 6/10/23 at 1:51 pm to Chromdome35
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But yea, the entire Ukrainian eastern front is collapsing.
Only before long we will be in the fight. Too much money spent for this to be happening. :/
Posted on 6/10/23 at 2:29 pm to momentoftruth87
You probably don't know what I'm talking about with my statement...
Last spring when Russia took Severodonetsk and Popsana, Stidham made a post saying the entire Ukrainian front was collapsing (obviously not true at the time). We remind him of that when he posts in the thread.
Last spring when Russia took Severodonetsk and Popsana, Stidham made a post saying the entire Ukrainian front was collapsing (obviously not true at the time). We remind him of that when he posts in the thread.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 3:01 pm to Chromdome35
I believe my point is still valid, Ukraine as a whole is collapsing. All the damage and destruction is more than a few ruskies losing their life. And we are still funding this and encouraging it.
Yes Putin can stop anytime and he should but there has been no effort from Ukraine or US to stop it either.
Yes Putin can stop anytime and he should but there has been no effort from Ukraine or US to stop it either.
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