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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:49 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I’m not saying that Russia is telling the truth because they’re probably not, but those numbers aren’t unrealistic.
That is approaching the kind of total number the 1st and 3rd Armor killed in the battle of 73 Easting.
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Posted on 6/5/23 at 6:51 pm to Athanatos
which is why those numbers aren’t believable on day 1 of the offensive.
NATO doctrine is not to throw a bunch of tanks into a wall.
NATO doctrine is not to throw a bunch of tanks into a wall.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:00 pm to Hateradedrink
I would imagine Ukraine is doing recon in force or other hit and run tactics to probe for a response and check for a weakness. Or even to pin down reserves in an area. If nothing else, the chaos of reported attacks all along the front overwhelms an HQ to determine what is a probe and what is a real attack. Most of the time the size of an attack on either side is over stated due to fog of war and human nature
It will be a few days to a week+ before we get an idea what is really going on. Since we are getting updates from Russian milbloggees then we will only get the view from Russian glasses.
Once the Russian milbloggers resemble the rant on a bad game day, then we will know Ukraine is truly succeeding.
It will be a few days to a week+ before we get an idea what is really going on. Since we are getting updates from Russian milbloggees then we will only get the view from Russian glasses.
Once the Russian milbloggers resemble the rant on a bad game day, then we will know Ukraine is truly succeeding.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:03 pm to tigeraddict
Right. UA is not going to commit a bunch of tanks into a single offensive action on the first day of the offensive.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:14 pm to tigeraddict
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Once the Russian milbloggers resemble the rant on a bad game day,
Even the Russians aren't that psychotic.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:34 pm to Chromdome35
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Wow...does anyone believe this?
This Yevgeny Prigozhin fellow seem a little skeptical:
From @wartranslated
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:34 pm to Jim Rockford
Dang! The ultimate insult to Russian millbloggers
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:37 pm to GOP_Tiger
Right now on twitter Lots of chatter about a dam being blown
ETA
ETA
This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 7:43 pm
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:46 pm to Chromdome35
@War_Mapper
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UA-aligned Freedom of Russia Legion and Russian Volunteer Corps partially expanded control in the south of the village of Novaya Tavolzhanka in Belgorod Oblast, Russia
Posted on 6/5/23 at 7:52 pm to Chromdome35
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1665876808577720329
https://twitter.com/J_JHelin/status/1665876770195644416
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1665880313426223105
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BREAKING: Romanov--
<<06/06/2023
New Kakhovka, Kherson region, Russia.
Fighters from the field report:
The Armed Forces of Ukraine blew up the dam of the Kakhovskaya hydroelectric power station. There is a strong flooding downstream of the Dnieper.>>
The only ones who can feasibly benefit from this are the Russians since it will prevent Ukranians from conducting an amphibious assault on the Dnipro;s left bank. I highly doubt the Ukrainians destroyed their country. If this is true, it is one of the greatest war crimes since WWII.
https://twitter.com/J_JHelin/status/1665876770195644416
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I have front-row seats to the real-time spread of rumors about the Nova Kakhovka dam being destroyed across all the Telegram channels.
Let's judge if any of that has any basis in reality come morning.
Sorry. I mean "??????????????"
https://twitter.com/Faytuks/status/1665880313426223105
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Some Pro-Russian sources are claiming that Ukrainian forces have blown up the dam in Nova Kakhovka, Kherson oblast.
Nothing at this stage suggests that these reports are true.
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This post was edited on 6/5/23 at 7:54 pm
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:04 pm to Chromdome35
https://twitter.com/secretsqrl123/status/1665867060751073285
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again not the big attack, this is to draw reinforcements to the area for the real one, watch ru troops reinforce or break and run. either way it will soak up and "FIX" units in place that cant move. for something else
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:08 pm to Chromdome35
The dam has not been blown. That is Putinist misinformazia.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:09 pm to Chromdome35
I don't believe this given all the hand-wringing over F16s.
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1665841474309693441
https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1665841474309693441
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Australia, the United States and Ukraine are discussing the possibility of sending 41 retired Australian Air Force F/A-18 aircraft to Ukraine instead of sending them for scrap as previously planned, The Australian Financial Review.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:13 pm to Chromdome35
So, this is THE big dam at Nova Kakhovka (and also, with the Antinovsky Bridge at Kherson destroyed, the only remaining road or bridge across the Dnipro).
If the dam has been fully blown, then yes, much of southern Kherson Oblast will significantly flood.
Here's an elevation map from back when we were worried about this in the fall, back when Russia still controlled Kherson.
That would take out many Russian positions in southern Kherson Oblast. This will cause an immediate logistical nightmare for Russian forces in the area, as they will have to race to move all their equipment out of the path of the rising water. Some ammunition stores, etc. might not get cleared out. So, that's a huge negative for Russia.
On the other hand, it does make a pontoon river crossing across the Dnipro south of the dam impossible. So, that would seem to be a negative for Ukraine.
But ... the flooding downstream might also make a crossing upstream of the dam easier. This what what I have previously suggested that Ukraine might do, and this will be easier now, as the river will become smaller here and easier to cross.
If the dam has been fully blown, then yes, much of southern Kherson Oblast will significantly flood.
Here's an elevation map from back when we were worried about this in the fall, back when Russia still controlled Kherson.
That would take out many Russian positions in southern Kherson Oblast. This will cause an immediate logistical nightmare for Russian forces in the area, as they will have to race to move all their equipment out of the path of the rising water. Some ammunition stores, etc. might not get cleared out. So, that's a huge negative for Russia.
On the other hand, it does make a pontoon river crossing across the Dnipro south of the dam impossible. So, that would seem to be a negative for Ukraine.
But ... the flooding downstream might also make a crossing upstream of the dam easier. This what what I have previously suggested that Ukraine might do, and this will be easier now, as the river will become smaller here and easier to cross.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:14 pm to Chromdome35
I have seen a few reports without imagery that a Lancet hit a Leopard.
This is the closest I've found
This is the closest I've found
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#1 Screenshot from the Leopard-2 documentary.
#2 Screenshot from the lancet video, that destroyed a Ukrainian Leopard-2.
It's very strange that they looks very similar ??, I don't have explanation why.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:33 pm to Chromdome35
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Right now on twitter Lots of chatter about a dam being blown
I was really skeptical but it seems like this is starting to get some legs.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:34 pm to TigersSEC2010
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There is no chance they destroyed 28 tanks and 100+ armored vehicles in one day on one front. If they said they destroyed 3 tanks and a dozen vehicles I’d maybe believe it
You skipped right over the claimed 1500 casualties
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:36 pm to StormyMcMan
Dug this old one up. Does make me wonder what RuffFish is up to.
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:39 pm to Obtuse1
Supposed video at the dam
https://twitter.com/ukikaski/status/1665893759140208647?s=46&t=NleGAx7oncKOx5aqcNjt9A
https://twitter.com/ukikaski/status/1665893759140208647?s=46&t=NleGAx7oncKOx5aqcNjt9A
Posted on 6/5/23 at 8:42 pm to Chromdome35
This is still a new source for me so I'm not sure of its legitimacy
Inconclusive video at link
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1665893759140208647
Inconclusive video at link
https://twitter.com/UKikaski/status/1665893759140208647
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Russians have published a video of what they claim is the destroyed Nova Kakhovka Damn across the Dnipro River in Ukraine.
This moves the reports from "possible" to "likely."
Still no confirmation from official Ukrainian sources.
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