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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:39 pm to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:39 pm to
It is a great day for everyone who opposes the MIC and the NWO.

May peace be closer than ever.

This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 2:43 pm
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:58 pm to
Twitter - OAlexanderDK

Reports of a strike in Mariupol that has targeted a underground bunker that may have had high ranking Russians in it at the time, including Shoigu as he was meant to visiting a command post in Zaporizhzhia Oblast today according to Russian MoD.

As Oliver notes, we won't know if any of below the pictured gentlemen were there at the time of the strike (the photo itself is from an earlier photo op several weeks ago), but regardless it will weaken Russian command and control in the region.



Before


After


Wide angle geolocation

Posted by lowspark12
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 2:59 pm to
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Roger is as special as they come. He built a house 100% by himself before he turned 22 while also getting his bachelors and working a full time job


All while posting non stop on TD?… fricking impressive.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 3:00 pm
Posted by notiger1997
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:07 pm to
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OutsideObserver


What kind of missile most likely was used for that?
Posted by lowspark12
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Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:11 pm to
British storm shadow
Posted by OutsideObserver
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:14 pm to
quote:


What kind of missile most likely was used for that?


From Olivers thread.

quote:

It was a former Ukrainian military installation. Likely that Russian forces were using it as a command post at this time.

With the distance from the frontline, it was probably another Storm Shadow strike.


I agree that is the most likely case as it is about 70 miles from the frontline so definitely not HIMARS or JDAM equipped munitions.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:34 pm to
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You can't have it both ways so pick one jackass.


This person will undoubtedly run back to the Poliboard and complain about how mean we were.

As far as Bakhmut is concerned, it's capture by Wagner is certainly a morale boost for Russian forces. That's why we got the inevitable Politard invasion here today. That's not nothing.

And during the winter and early spring, the Ukrainian defense of Bakhmut was important for Ukrainian morale. But since then, Ukraine has gotten Patriot, Leopards, Storm Shadow, and the promise of Abrams and F-16s. So, Ukrainian morale has never been higher.

Bakhmut never had any great strategic importance -- it's importance was all symbolic. Russia is not going to advance from there towards Kramatorsk; in fact, in the last few days, Russia has been trying to take out the bridges from Bakhmut towards Chasiv Yar (the next town in that direction), to try to slow the Ukrainian advance around Bakhmut's flanks.

But, it's going to be very interesting to see what happens now with Wagner. I do not think that they will stay and defend against the upcoming Ukrainian offensive, as Wagner's entire force structure is set up to attack, not defend. Nor do I think that Prigozhin wants any of the blame for any Ukrainian success.

But if Wagner simply turns Bakhmut over to Russian forces and leaves, that will simply thin out Russian forces even more in that area and open it up for a Ukrainian attack, unless Russia deploys significant reserves there. So, if Wagner leaves, then I'm not sure that today is a good day for Russia.

Unlike how some pro-Russian fans choose to interpret today:

Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 3:41 pm to
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SirWinston

It was better when you were banned.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 4:30 pm to
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ts not just the equipment its the training. I knew there would be some Ukrainians at Sill but there are hundreds there if not more. And remember, there is training going on in the UK, Poland, Germany, and other western countries.
They're here at Ft Huachuca as well, I'm assuming attending the intelligence school.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 4:42 pm to
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Its a much more sane position to take than yours. I don't believe the Russians or Ukranians.



Even if I conceded Ukraine media might be more reliable, it's just so tiresome that in this thread every story of Russia hitting a viable target is a lie and every story of Ukraine killing civilians is a fabrication.

I've said it 100 times but the fact that we have amateur students of US foreign policy/military intervention in here and they're just barging past every safety barrier with reckless abandon...I simply do not understand it. You don't have to be pro-Russia or an isolationist to acknowledge how frequently American hubris leads to bad outcomes.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:02 pm to
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I've said it 100 times but the fact that we have amateur students of US foreign policy/military intervention in here and they're just barging past every safety barrier with reckless abandon...I simply do not understand it. You don't have to be pro-Russia or an isolationist to acknowledge how frequently American hubris leads to bad outcomes.


Are you serious??? Are you saying posters here effect US foreign policy and world events??? Come in man, people just bring need here, give opinions and discuss what is going on in Ukraine.

No one here us advising Zelensky, Putin or Biden.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:16 pm to
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Even if I conceded Ukraine media might be more reliable, it's just so tiresome that in this thread every story of Russia hitting a viable target is a lie and every story of Ukraine killing civilians is a fabrication. I've said it 100 times but the fact that we have amateur students of US foreign policy/military intervention in here and they're just barging past every safety barrier with reckless abandon...I simply do not understand it. You don't have to be pro-Russia or an isolationist to acknowledge how frequently American hubris leads to bad outcomes.



They’re emotionally invested in this war for some reason. The outcome won’t affect their personal lives one way or the other. It’s basically a game thread on the rant where all the posters are homers incapable of looking at the game objectively.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:21 pm to
Imagine supporting Ukraine and the NWO after everything we've learned these last 6 years

Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:22 pm to
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Imagine supporting Ukraine and the NWO after everything we've learned these last 6 years


Better than supporting Iran and China in a proxy war, like you are. “America first.”
Posted by SirWinston
Say NO to War
Member since Jul 2014
104464 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:23 pm to
I'm supporting the END of this proxy war and the end of genocide of Christian lads in their teens, twenties, and thirties.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 5:25 pm
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:24 pm to
America Worst “patriots”
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38444 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:25 pm to
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No one here us advising Zelensky, Putin or Biden.


Wrong. Hunter Biden posts here, baw. His name is tigergirl10.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38160 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:28 pm to
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America Worst “patriots”


“Muh christian genocide “ - guy actively supporting Iran
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 5:29 pm
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87334 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:30 pm to
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Are you serious??? Are you saying posters here effect US foreign policy and world events??? Come in man, people just bring need here, give opinions and discuss what is going on in Ukraine.


What? It’s a thread devoted to unceasing and limitless involvement in a foreign war. This take is unimaginable to me and exactly what I’m talking about- “US citizens rallying for deepened involvement in war in Europe is irrelevant to what the US actually does.”

That’s either insane, depressing or both.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:31 pm to
Hey don’t hate the player…
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