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Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:32 pm to SirWinston
quote:I, for one, am thrilled by your comments in this thread, because if I ever find myself agreeing with you on any-fricking-thing I'm committing seppuku with a rusty butter knife straight away.
SirWinston
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:35 pm to SirWinston
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To what end? I'm against the MIC and the Globalist cabal. If that means strategically rooting for Russia to win enough to force peace, so be it. Yall are openly cheering for the MIC and an endless war.
Don’t kid yourself. You’re one of those 4chan fgts who thinks Russia is awesome cause it’s anti woke and “Christian.” Never mind that its two biggest Allies are the mullahs and fricking China. Go back to playing dress up on your fringe websites.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:45 pm to SirWinston
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Yall are openly cheering for the MIC and an endless war.
Pot meet kettle
Come in here and complain that we say if you don't support Ukraine you must love russia
But if we do support Ukraine we somehow support an endless war?
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:45 pm to REG861
So you admit you were wrong about me praising Iran or siding with them.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:48 pm to StormyMcMan
Yes because deep down you know this show is being run by the same assholes who brought us Iraq and Afghanistan and unchecked migration all over Europe and America yet you trip over yourselves to convince each other there is some meaningful distinction here. There's not. You've fallen for the same propaganda as all the other neocons (as well as all the soy boys and shitlib suburban women with the Ukraine flags on their Twitter bios).
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:50 pm to SirWinston
It’s like a whole company of Bill Kristols in here baw
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:52 pm to Pettifogger
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the fact that we have amateur students of US foreign policy/military intervention in here and they're just barging past every safety barrier with reckless abandon...I simply do not understand it. You don't have to be pro-Russia or an isolationist to acknowledge how frequently American hubris leads to bad outcomes.
This doesn't make any sense.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:53 pm to SirWinston
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To what end? I'm against the MIC and the Globalist cabal. If that means strategically rooting for Russia to win enough to force peace, so be it.
Yall are openly cheering for the MIC and an endless war.
God you are stupid.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:55 pm to SirWinston
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Yes because deep down you know this show is being run by the same assholes who brought us Iraq and Afghanistan
What? Lol.
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unchecked migration all over Europe and America yet you trip over yourselves to convince each other there is some meaningful distinction here.
This is a net good. Free movement is better than tight border controls. The US should adopt it with Canada and Mexico.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 5:57 pm to crazy4lsu
Lol ok
Again, it’s completely inexplicable for intelligent people to take these bizarre absolutist views
Again, it’s completely inexplicable for intelligent people to take these bizarre absolutist views
Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:07 pm to Pettifogger
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Again, it’s completely inexplicable for intelligent people to take these bizarre absolutist views
I don't think I've taken any absolutist views. But I'm also not responsible for whatever 'safety barriers' you are referring to, as there is a large difference between describing US security policy and supporting it. US security policy has placed European stability as its centerpiece since WWII, and the internal discussions (from cables and memos produced during the 1st Bush presidency) show that the US really doesn't want a singular Central European power to play a large role in international politics.
Everything the US has done makes perfect sense given the 'offensive realist' positions of post-Soviet US policy. There's always a remarkable lack of blame on one of the principal agents in this, which is the Russians themselves. Putin's himself stated his positions so clearly at Munich in 2007 that it remains exceedingly odd the NATO expansion arguments are even taken seriously.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 6:14 pm to crazy4lsu
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There's always a remarkable lack of blame on one of the principal agents in this, which is the Russians themselves. Putin's himself stated his positions so clearly at Munich in 2007 that it remains exceedingly odd the NATO expansion arguments are even taken seriously.
It’s because they are hacks. They can’t help it.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:04 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Every time the politards invade, it’s with the same old arguments dressed up in the latest Russian talking points. And here we go again with this crap, page after page, all because Wagner claims that it took the last few blocks of a strategically irrelevant city. It’s tiresome
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:12 pm to GOP_Tiger
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So, Ukrainian morale has never been higher.
Bakhmut has fallen and Zaluzhny is nowhere to be found, yet morale has never been higher?
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:18 pm to FlintEastwood
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Bakhmut has fallen and Zaluzhny is nowhere to be found, yet morale has never been higher?
Zelensky is in Japan at the G7 summit and has obtained the support to Ukraine's peace proposal, "Russia returns to the pre 2014 lines and pays for rebuilding what they have destroyed." Quite reasonable.
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:20 pm to SirWinston
So you didn't support the World Bank funding and Western companies bring the oil production back in Russia. This globalist cabal kept Russia from descending into warring factions with nukes.
More like mud eater wannabe Winston instead of any Sir
More like mud eater wannabe Winston instead of any Sir
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:21 pm to CitizenK
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Russia returns to the pre 2014 lines and pays for rebuilding what they have destroyed." Quite reasonable.
No one really thinks Russia will agree to this do they?
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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No one really thinks Russia will agree to this do they?
No. That's stupid as hell
Posted on 5/20/23 at 7:24 pm to CitizenK
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Zelensky is in Japan at the G7 summit and has obtained the support to Ukraine's peace proposal, "Russia returns to the pre 2014 lines and pays for rebuilding what they have destroyed." Quite reasonable.
There isn't a single leader at the G7 summit who believes that will happen, including Zelensky, but ok.
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