re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

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Syrian Kurds aren’t our allies

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Sure, uh huh.

Basically, like every other time, US is happy to use people until they become politically expedient when put up against a more important ally, such as Turkey. Then we just leave them to die and bury their dead.

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bro oml is a fricking pussy arse hack. he actually has some decent views on things but above all else he is a pussy war monger. calls for the us to get involved in every war yet says he cant serve himself.

also everything is some media conspiracy and trump should 100% run for president even though he will be almost 80. dont pay attention to him as he has zero principles. zero

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I like OML fine, it's always good to have a woman around to keep us on our toes

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Basically, like every other time, US is happy to use people until they become politically expedient when put up against a more important ally, such as Turkey. Then we just leave them to die and bury their dead.

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Ok, they aren't our ally. They harbor a terror network in the PKK that have killed thousands of Turkish kids and women. Peshmerga had protests on sending their own Iraqi Kurd troops to defend Kobane in Syria they hate them so much. Until Kobane became a world wide fixation we weren't sending anyone there to help. We had no business being in Syria and not a single American soldier should have died over there.

ETA: I shouldn't say the Iraqi Kurds HATE the Syrian Kurds, but they've had a civil war and still have strong disagreements to this day.

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Neither are correct actions. One directly lead to a much more significant consequence than the other, but again neither are correct actions.

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No joke, but US keeps doing it.

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Some months back, Russia went to the world through diplomatic channels and said, in essence, "You may not agree with our judgment, and we don't ask you to, but we do ask you to consider that in our judgment NATO is a security threat to Russia and under no circumstances can we allow its further enlargement to our borders."

The West rejected that message,...

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You are listening to Putin and taking his words as proof of his motives.

This isn't about the Russian heritage of some of the regions of Ukraine, at least VERY little.

This isn't really even about NATO on his doorstep or narrowing the army accessible land avenue into the European Plain farther back toward the Fulda gap.

It is about oil/gas and water. It is about making Russia a larger petrostate. They want the rest of the offshore gas fields they didn't get when they took Crimea. They want the shale oil reserves in Eastern and Western Ukraine. They want the pipelines that run from Russia across central Ukraine and to avoid paying tariffs, even though they have built multiple pipelines to avoid them already like the multiple Nord Stream pipelines that go around the north and south of Ukraine. It is about opening the water back up from the Dnipro river to Crimea through the North Crimean Canal. Not so much because he gives a frick about the Crimean people but because Sevastopol is there and it is the only military port Russia has that is ice-free year-round.

Putin suckered a lot of people in with his rambling Russian history lesson and appeal to reunite ethnic Russians with their motherland. He got even more talking about the what-if of how we would feel with missiles in Cuba, Mexico, or Canada. Oh, I say and I say it again, ya been had! Ya been took! Ya been hoodwinked! Bamboozled! Led astray! Run amok!

The real reason Russia invaded a sovereign country was money. Liquid and gaseous dinosaur bones (algae but it isn't as poetic) and that other liquid gold called water. He is just a thug thief in an ill-fitting (track) suit he just hides his gold chains on his wrists as watches. He isn't fricking Moses shepherding his people he is just an armed robber intent on stealing Ukraine and their riches. Applaud him for that if you are going to applaud.

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he actually has some decent views on things but above all else he is a pussy war monger.

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I’ve been pretty vocal that we stay out of this shite save for providing them intel. Go listen to John Bolton if you want to hear an actual warmonger.

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No joke, but US keeps doing it.

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And it keeps being wrong and open for criticism. Just because it keeps happening doesn’t mean we should just move on and say “oh well, it’s what we always do. No worse than in the past.”

I agree.

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ban him!

Do it!
Do it!
Do it!

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That is like kicking Missouri out of the SEC, it is nice to have an easy win on the schedule.