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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:32 am to
Posted by OutsideObserver
Oceania.
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 2/18/23 at 1:32 am to
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It helps to understand the limitations of the present Russian government and military by seeing what they actually are. Not a legitimate government and defense force but in reality a criminal syndicate. Putin knows how to murder and steal and extort but doesn't have a clue as to managing a government on a war footing. The defense forces are a reflection of this. All form, no substance. Just another means to the end of massive corruption. And now that the targets aren't opposition politicians and journalists, but people who are armed and fight back, the capo is exposed.

So don't think of the Kremlin or the Russian Army as anything but a mafia, with a single isolated leader using mafia methods to extract wealth and control. But with all the limitations that come with these methods and thus failing when they run into an opponent that can't be mysteriously murdered in the night. Basically the Gambino Family vs. the 82nd Airborne.


Excellent analogy, thank you.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
55463 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 3:42 am to
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Marina Yankina (or Jankina), director of the Russia Ministry of Defense and financial manager of the Western Military District has exited a tall building by means of a window

There’s a word for that: Defenestrate.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15688 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 5:41 am to
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Saw a video on Twitter of Putin meeting with Lukashenko. He was sitting in a chair and his feet/legs were moving spasmodically.


Cat on a hot tin roof. Not sure if he has physical or mental issues.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15688 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 5:42 am to
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Are they going to take Kalingrad back? Russia couldn't stop them.


If memory serves me correctly, no neighboring country wanted it during the breakup of the USSR due 100% Russian population.
Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:16 am to
ISW Update

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The Kremlin will likely subsume elements of Belarus’ defense industrial base (DIB) as part of Moscow’s larger effort to reequip the Russian military to support a protracted war against Ukraine. Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko stated during a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow on February 17 that Belarus’ aerospace industry is ready to produce Su-25 ground attack aircraft for the Russian military with the support of Russian technology transfers.[1] Lukashenko also stated that the Belarusian state-run Minsk Automobile Plant began producing components to support Russian KAMAZ (a Russian heavy-duty truck producer) products and expressed willingness to help Russia produce electronic components to substitute for lost Western imports.[2] Lukashenko additionally stated that Belarus is implementing 100 percent of unspecified defense and security cooperation agreements that Belarus and Russia agreed to “three months ago.”[3]

Additional Su-25s and truck parts are likely not critical material for the success of Russia’s long-term war effort. The Kremlin may commandeer Belarusian factories and retool them to produce critical materiel that the Russian military needs, Lukashenko’s statements notwithstanding


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Lukashenko confirmed that Belarus has implemented more Union State integration programs - marking progress in the Kremlin’s steady pressure campaign to formalize the Russian-Belarusian Union State across decades. Lukashenko stated on February 17 that Russia and Belarus implemented 80 percent of the 28 Union State programs including programs on customs and tax – a significant achievement in the Kremlin’s campaign to formalize the Union State.[6] Lukashenko has historically resisted implementing the Union State integration programs by stalling specifically on complex customs and tax harmonization issues since at least 2019.[7] Lukashenko’s statement that Belarus has finally ratified Union State programs on customs and tax issues therefore marks a significant Russian gain. Lukashenko stated that the remaining unimplemented Union State programs concern humanitarian issues.[8]

Lukashenko is likely paying for his rejection of Putin’s larger demand for Belarusian forces to join the invasion against Ukraine by making smaller concessions that he has stonewalled for years, as ISW assessed


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The Kremlin’s gains in Belarus underscore that Putin’s imperialistic ambitions transcend Ukraine and that containing the Russian threat requires the West’s sustained attention. Putin will very likely make significant gains in restoring Russian suzerainty over Belarus regardless of the outcome of his invasion of Ukraine.


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The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) confirmed the names of the commanders of Russia’s four military districts, finalizing a complete turnover of the Russian military’s initial command since the start of the invasion of Ukraine in February 2022. The Russian MoD confirmed on February 17 that it appointed Lieutenant General Andrey Mordvichev as Central Military District (CMD) commander and that it had previously appointed Colonel General Sergey Kuzovlev as Southern Military District (SMD) commander, Lieutenant General Yevgeny Nikiforov as Western Military District (WMD) commander, and Lieutenant General Rustam Muradov as Eastern Military District (EMD) commander.

The formalization of military district commanders is likely part of an effort to distance the Russian military from past failures and to prepare the Russian military for a renewed large-scale offensive in Ukraine. The formalization of military district commanders also accompanies the MoD’s likely attempt to delineate clearer areas of responsibility for each military district in Ukraine. The appointment of these commanders does not represent the restoration of the pre-war MoD leadership bloc or an expansion of the ultranationalist siloviki faction’s power, despite reported connections that Nikiforov has to Wagner Financier Yevgeny Prigozhin and tenuous connections that Mordvichev may have with Chechen Republic head Ramzan Kadyrov.[


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Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin appears to be mounting an informational counteroffensive against the conventional Russian military establishment. Following a video posted on February 16 of Wagner Group troops stating that they have been cut off from artillery supplies Wagner fighters released another video on February 17 showing a room full of bodies of deceased Wagner fighters.[17] The fighter in the video claims that Wagner is losing hundreds of personnel a day because the Russian MoD is not providing them with the weapons, ammunition, and other supplies that they need.[18] Several Wagner-affiliated Telegram channels also amplified a #GiveShellstoWagner post that explicitly tags the Russian MoD and claims (falsely) that Wagner is the only formation currently advancing in Ukraine and that Wagner elements therefore need immediate support.[19] The escalation of Wagner’s direct accusations against the Russian MoD represents a new informational counteroffensive by Prigozhin that seeks to continue to undermine the Russian MoD and obscure Wagner’s attrition-based operational model by blaming the Russian MoD for its failures.

Prigozhin has likely launched an intensified informational campaign against the Russian MoD in response to the MoD’s likely role in barring the Wagner Group from continuing its prison recruitment campaign and Prigozhin’s overall declining influence.[20] Prigozhin‘s declining prominence and the end of the Wagner Group‘s prison recruitment campaign are likely constraining the Wagner Group‘s operational capabilities in Ukraine, and it appears that the MOD continues to sideline Wagner Group forces from decisive efforts.[21] Prigozhin appears to be courting ultranationalist figures, fellow siloviki such as Chechen Head Ramzan Kadyrov, and select Russian milbloggers to aid him in his effort to regain prominence but will likely find these figures’ support to be unreliable.


Posted by StormyMcMan
USA
Member since Oct 2016
4669 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:16 am to
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Key Takeaways

The Kremlin will likely subsume elements of Belarus’ defense industrial base (DIB) as part of Moscow’s larger effort to reequip the Russian military to support a protracted war against Ukraine.

Lukashenko confirmed that Belarus has implemented more Union State integration programs - marking progress in the Kremlin’s decades-long pressure campaign to formalize the Russian-Belarusian Union State.

The Kremlin’s gains in Belarus underscore that Putin’s imperialistic ambitions transcend Ukraine and that containing the Russian threat requires the West’s sustained attention.

The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) confirmed the names of the four military district commanders, finalizing a complete turnover of the Russian military’s initial command since the start of the invasion of Ukraine.

Wagner Group financier Yevgeny Prigozhin appears to be mounting an informational counteroffensive against the conventional Russian military establishment.

Russian forces continued offensive operations along the Svatove-Kreminna line.

Russian forces continued ground attacks around Bakhmut, in the Donetsk City-Avdiivka area, and in western Donetsk Oblast.

Russian and Ukrainian military activity near Nova Kakhovka, Kherson Oblast indicates that Russian forces are likely deployed to positions close bank of the Dnipro River.

The United Kingdom Ministry of Defense (UK MoD) reported that Russian forces have likely suffered up to 200,000 casualties since the start of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine.

Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a variety of laws on February 17 to integrate occupied territories into Russian legal, economic, and administrative structures.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14810 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 6:47 am to
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It's the kind of thing that makes me wonder how far out of the loop Putin is. Did someone falsely report to him that the Vuhledar offensive was a success? Or is Putin actually properly informed and "promoting" him to a desk job in Siberia? I dunno.


The old adage for a state/government employee since u can’t fire the bad ones is “you promote them out of your division” and they become someone else’s problem.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30450 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:09 am to
"Heartfelt" message from a Russian "mother". Holeeeeshit.

Twitter
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:13 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 18 February 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

Andrey Turchak, the leader of the Russian parliamentary group that is focused on the so-called Special Military Operation in Ukraine, stated on 16 February 2023 that the group had presented a report to Russian President Putin.

The report is likely to cover issues such as social support to those mobilised and their families. This issue is likely to become more salient if any further mobilisation (be it overt or tacit) takes place. Putin may well refer to these issues in his state of the nation address on 21 February 2023.

It is becoming increasingly difficult for the Kremlin to insulate the population from the war in Ukraine. A December 2022 Russian poll reported that 52% had either a friend or relative who had served in the so-called Special Military Operation.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
5647 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:30 am to
Wallace: Ukraine to receive Typhoon fighters only after war ends
by The Kyiv Independent news desk
February 18, 2023 1:34 pm

British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace has told Der Spiegel that Ukraine would receive modern fighter jets, such as the Eurofighter Typhoon, only after Russia’s war against Ukraine is over.

Wallace said “there will be no quick deliveries” of the fighters at this stage of the war.

“Let’s be honest, it will be a long time before anyone delivers fighter jets to Ukraine. Moreover, modern aircraft, such as the Eurofighter, which we call Typhoon in the UK, will be delivered to Kyiv only after the end of the conflict. This is the consensus among Western partners,” Wallace said.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:33 am to
I bet Poland will start mobilizing soon along its border, I am sure they are itching to crush Belarus and give them some payback for all the WW2 atrocities
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:35 am to
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Not a legitimate government and defense force but in reality a criminal syndicate.


That is exactly what they are. Just like the Mob. Gangsters.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14810 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:39 am to
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I bet Poland will start mobilizing soon along its border, I am sure they are itching to crush Belarus and give them some payback for all the WW2 atrocities


Poland does not have aggressive intentions. They are dermined to be strong enough to defend them selves and project power to deter their neighbors to thinking they are weak.

However, Poland would be a determined foe should someone decide to poke the polish bear. Poland know more then anyone else about hostile occupation
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:45 am to
That is a fricked up society.

Life in Modern Russia/ youtube
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:54 am to


Sort of old news but a reminder at least 2 European nations are trying to be out front of this effort, one very much so given they have a better defense standing to do so, the UK.
This post was edited on 2/18/23 at 8:38 am
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
15688 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 8:09 am to
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That is a fricked up society.

Life in Modern Russia/ youtube


A few years ago, Vice was all about how good Russia is and evil Ukraine was. They change their minds faster than a cat does
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
20844 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 8:14 am to
Can you link it?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8599 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 9:29 am to
That’s just disgusting. I’m willing to bet she doesn’t really have 4 sons or if she does they aren’t in Ukraine fighting. If they are and she still has that attitude then I feel sorry for not only her but her children. Hate to tell her though she’s not having more kids. Those eggs dried up long ago on that old bitch. For the best. The works doesn’t need more offspring from her.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
8599 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 9:54 am to
Video of Ukrainian helo pilots flying on the deck. Really don’t see why we can’t give them some of the Super Cobras that the Marines recently retired. They wouldn’t take much maintenance at all to get them ready to fly again and they would give the Ukrainians a very formidable match to the Russian’s Ka-52s. If we did this it would prompt other countries to send fighter jets also.

LINK
This post was edited on 2/18/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 10:06 am to
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Heh, Germany may HAVE to spend on defense when they realize that Poland can take them whenever they feel like it.


One good thing that will come out of this is the Poles and other eastern European countries assuming a leading role in European political and military affairs.
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