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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:48 pm to GOP_Tiger
Posted on 2/16/23 at 11:48 pm to GOP_Tiger
You can’t make this shite up. The main area that the Russians had the largest advantage was in the air with more modern planes and longer range missiles and they haven’t used them to their full effect until now when the Ukrainians have a vastly improved air defense network now in place to knock them out of the sky. I guess they are running low on infantry meat and armored vehicles to grind up so they are going to kill their pilots and aircraft now. Watch them get one of the all 10 of their Su-57s shot down.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:23 am to LSUPilot07
It certainly seems like it's being telegraphed. I would think they would want an intial strike to be seemingly random; however, they are giving Ukraine plenty of time to get AA assets in place. Look for it to be a bloodbath if Russia is stupid enough to do this.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:08 am to Chromdome35
The one thing Russia has made very clear is they don’t give a shite about sending their own people to their death in large masses. Normal operating procedure for them. And if we are being honest the Ukrainians are in the same ballpark. This war would have been over long ago if casualties weren’t to be expected in large numbers. They have really fricked the Russian leadership’s minds in their stubbornness to resist as well as the world’s United support to Ukraine. I honestly don’t think they even dreamed anyone would come to Ukraine’s aid and they would just need to drive into Kyiv and run the Russian flag up the flagpole. Then they would have taken Moldova quickly there after. Putin and his circle are just ex soviet KGB thugs that want the hammer and sickle flag to fly again before they die. They should probably call themselves lucky that Ukraine stopped them cold because I’m not sure anyone would have been able to hold Poland back from going after the Russians. They saw them invade as much as the Germans in WW2 and would not be interested in ever going back to being under their control. I don’t think Russia thinks about any of these types of repercussions before acting.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:17 am to LSUPilot07
You'll notice in all their rhetoric about attacking London, Paris, Berlin, they rarely mention Warsaw.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 6:11 am to Jim Rockford
Video of trench warfare NSFW as you do see at least one person go down
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This seems overstated but none the less
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Ukrainian forces engaged in what is pretty much face-to-face combat with Russians in the trenches.
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Former soccer player and blogger Yevgeny Savin was fined 50 thousand rubles for "discrediting the army."
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From the new school year there will be "educational advisers" in #Russian schools.
This was announced by the head of the Ministry of Education Sergei Kravtsov.
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Chinese President Xi Jinping plans to deliver a "peace speech" on the anniversary of the russian federation's full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
This was announced by Italian Foreign Minister Antonio Tajani after talks with his Chinese counterpart
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The Czech Republic will produce mobile air defense systems for Ukraine that can target drones. This project is financed by the Netherlands.
This was reported by Ceske Noviny
It involves a hundred modified Toyota SUVs equipped with several rapid-fire machine guns that can target drones
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Luxembourg, a tiny nation with a military of fewer than 1,000 troops, tried to buy 6,000 Soviet-era rockets for Ukraine on the open market. But it delivered only 600, highlighting the struggle to arm Ukraine until sophisticated Western weapons arrive.
But determined to make a greater contribution to the war effort,Luxembourg set up a two-man team of in-house arms dealers soon after the Russian invasion. (…)to demonstrate that their country’s commitment to defeating Russia was every bit as big as that of its much larger NATO partners”
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This seems overstated but none the less
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According to NATO intelligence, russia is losing about 2,000 soldiers for every slightly more than 90 meters (100 yards) gained during attempts to advance infantry in eastern Ukraine.
This is reported by The Times.
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:03 am to StormyMcMan
Thanks, StormyMcMan. I was just coming here to talk about the Luxembourg story. This bit really made me think:
Of course, we know that sanctions are crippling Russian military industry production. We've seen so many stories about the Russian inability to get machine tools and difficulty in sourcing electronic components and raw materials.
I never really thought about that dynamic in reverse, in terms of getting Ukraine ammo for its Soviet-era weapons systems, but it's clearly a problem.
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Grappling with high demand for Grads after the war began, the Czech manufacturer ran out of parts. To make matters worse, most of the company’s suppliers were located in Russia or countries that refused to export equipment that could be used to help Ukraine. In the end, Luxembourg had to settle for the 600 rockets, one tenth its original goal.
Of course, we know that sanctions are crippling Russian military industry production. We've seen so many stories about the Russian inability to get machine tools and difficulty in sourcing electronic components and raw materials.
I never really thought about that dynamic in reverse, in terms of getting Ukraine ammo for its Soviet-era weapons systems, but it's clearly a problem.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:13 am to RLDSC FAN
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 17 February 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Russian Ministry of Defence and private military contractor (PMC) forces have likely suffered 175-200,000 casualties since the start of the invasion of Ukraine. This likely includes approximately 40-60,000 killed. The Russian casualty rate has significantly increased since September 2022 when 'partial mobilisation' was imposed.
By modern standards, these figures represent a high ratio of personnel killed compared to those wounded. This is almost certainly due to extremely rudimentary medical provision across much of the force. Artillery has almost certainly inflicted the majority of Russia's casualties.
Wagner PMC forces have deployed large numbers of convict-recruits. These have probably experienced a casualty rate of up to 50%.
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 17 February 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
Russian Ministry of Defence and private military contractor (PMC) forces have likely suffered 175-200,000 casualties since the start of the invasion of Ukraine. This likely includes approximately 40-60,000 killed. The Russian casualty rate has significantly increased since September 2022 when 'partial mobilisation' was imposed.
By modern standards, these figures represent a high ratio of personnel killed compared to those wounded. This is almost certainly due to extremely rudimentary medical provision across much of the force. Artillery has almost certainly inflicted the majority of Russia's casualties.
Wagner PMC forces have deployed large numbers of convict-recruits. These have probably experienced a casualty rate of up to 50%.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 7:18 am to GOP_Tiger
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never really thought about that dynamic in reverse, in terms of getting Ukraine ammo for its Soviet-era weapons systems, but it's clearly a problem.
One of the reasons they aren't sanctioning the nuclear industry is because we buy fuel from Russia
Posted on 2/17/23 at 8:44 am to StormyMcMan
ETA: already posted above
That dude would probably be up for some serious hardware in the form of medals in the US military. 3 different weapons in a 30 second clip taking out 1 enemy vehicle and at least 2 enemy soldiers. I can't imagine the adrenaline dump he got when he saw the Ruskie coming over the hill with rifle in hand.
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That dude would probably be up for some serious hardware in the form of medals in the US military. 3 different weapons in a 30 second clip taking out 1 enemy vehicle and at least 2 enemy soldiers. I can't imagine the adrenaline dump he got when he saw the Ruskie coming over the hill with rifle in hand.
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 9:32 am to rhar61
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You want to bet whose border has more child trafficking across it?
Yes.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:09 am to REG861
The French are preparing to transfer 25 AMX-10P IFVs to Ukraine per French media, they were withdrawn from service in 2015.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:54 am to LSUPilot07
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Putin and his circle are just ex soviet KGB thugs that want the hammer and sickle flag to fly again before they die. They should probably call themselves lucky that Ukraine stopped them cold because I’m not sure anyone would have been able to hold Poland back from going after the Russians. They saw them invade as much as the Germans in WW2 and would not be interested in ever going back to being under their control. I don’t think Russia thinks about any of these types of repercussions before acting.
Please tell me you don’t actually believe this.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:12 pm to Warfox
What parts of his statement do you disagree with and why?
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Putin and his circle are just ex soviet KGB thugs that want the hammer and sickle flag to fly again before they die. They should probably call themselves lucky that Ukraine stopped them cold because I’m not sure anyone would have been able to hold Poland back from going after the Russians. They saw them invade as much as the Germans in WW2 and would not be interested in ever going back to being under their control. I don’t think Russia thinks about any of these types of repercussions before acting.
Please tell me you don’t actually believe this.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 12:53 pm to Warfox
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Please tell me you don’t actually believe this.
Putin was in the KGB for 16 years and retired in 1991 as a Lt Colonel to "Run" for office...
I also believe.. (tho I may be mistaken in my recollection..) that Putin has gone on record as saying the "fall" of the USSR was a catastrophe..
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:10 pm to Warfox
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Please tell me you don’t actually believe this.
Please tell me that you are not ignorant of Putin saying that the fall of the USSR was the greatest calamity of the 20th Century
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:12 pm to klrstix
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Putin has gone on record as saying the "fall" of the USSR was a catastrophe..
no he said the breakup of the russian empire allowed by the soviets is the greatest tragedy of the 20th century.
he is much more about putting the russian empire back togther over what we think of as the USSR.
he also said russia not being a influential superpower is unexceptable.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:13 pm to CitizenK
I could see him wanting to parse that. Ie Putin wants the authority over territory the Soviet Union enjoyed but not the Hammer and Sickle system, as he's become way more wealthy under the country's current iteration.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 1:27 pm to lsu777
What’s the difference between the USSR and the “Russian Empire”?
And while Putin may want the old empire back it is obvious that Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia and others do not want if back.
And while Putin may want the old empire back it is obvious that Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Lithuania, Georgia and others do not want if back.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:03 pm to doubleb
A few things I picked up on the rounds.
Wagner have purportedly released another telegram video calling out the lack of ammunition.
Twitter - @wartranslated Wagner needs ammo.
Very interesting thread about Russian ammo production and the state of the Ukrainian power grid.
Twitter - @John_A_Ridge - Ukraine energy situation improving.
Following on from McConnell's statement the other day on continued support for Ukraine this was interesting to read.
Politico - Bipartisan group to press Biden over F-16's for Ukraine.
There seems to be a lot in the information space at the moment focusing on will and resolve from both sides. For the past few months there has been an underlying sense of desperation coming from Russia in how they have been interacting with it - I can't put it down to anything concrete and am happy to admit it may just be wish fulfilment on my behalf but there is a sense that if Ukraine can hold on awhile longer Russia is going to crack.
This links into the video where Stephen Kotkin discussed the state of the war and what a realistic victory would look like that CitizenK posted. I thought it was insightful in many ways, especially around how a victory would play out. I do question however if he was addressing his points to the image of Russia as how Russia wants themselves to be portrayed rather than how the war has revealed them to actually be.
Wagner have purportedly released another telegram video calling out the lack of ammunition.
Twitter - @wartranslated Wagner needs ammo.
Very interesting thread about Russian ammo production and the state of the Ukrainian power grid.
Twitter - @John_A_Ridge - Ukraine energy situation improving.
Following on from McConnell's statement the other day on continued support for Ukraine this was interesting to read.
Politico - Bipartisan group to press Biden over F-16's for Ukraine.
There seems to be a lot in the information space at the moment focusing on will and resolve from both sides. For the past few months there has been an underlying sense of desperation coming from Russia in how they have been interacting with it - I can't put it down to anything concrete and am happy to admit it may just be wish fulfilment on my behalf but there is a sense that if Ukraine can hold on awhile longer Russia is going to crack.
This links into the video where Stephen Kotkin discussed the state of the war and what a realistic victory would look like that CitizenK posted. I thought it was insightful in many ways, especially around how a victory would play out. I do question however if he was addressing his points to the image of Russia as how Russia wants themselves to be portrayed rather than how the war has revealed them to actually be.
Posted on 2/17/23 at 2:04 pm to Warfox
Yes I absolutely believe this. At the end of the day these are just people calling the shots. People like anyone else makes mistakes. In Russia’s case their leadership is so indoctrinated into the old way of doing things that force is the only thing they know or respect. Also Russia has some TERRIBLE senior officers that are running this war like it’s 1917 in the trenches sending them over the top and into “no man’s land” to attack across open ground and get annihilated dozens at a time by machine gun, artillery and mortar rounds. They don’t have NCOs in their military like we do that can act and make calls in real-time. They have to pass everything up the chain of command before they are allowed to take a piss. I remember being a fresh O-1 2nd lieutenant and realizing how absolutely useless some of the senior officers were but how good a lot of the NCOs were at their job. I learned so much from them. This makes all the difference in the world and is a big reason why our military is the big dog on the porch.
This post was edited on 2/17/23 at 2:23 pm
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