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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:49 pm to
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/2/23 at 11:49 pm to
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I would think “can we get more of this if war breaks out” would be a pretty key question at some point along the line… right?


Money and there may already be some affiliation between the two companies. Rheinmetal's subsidiary Kraus Maffei used to make chemical powders drying systems and centrifuges as well as all sorts of plastics products manufacturing equipment. This subsidiary made Panzers and Tigers in WWII.
Posted by Obtuse1
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Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 4:21 am to
Just when I thought we could believe Russia.

"Update" on the "autonomous" Russian Marker weapons:

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Russia’s Dmitry Rogozin via his Telegram channel: “Marker UGVs have arrived in Donbas. We will start uploading target images and combat algorithms, and will install anti-tank weapons.” LINK


Link to Twitter video of them being pulled off a rollback tow truck. In the US these trucks can carry about 7k to 10k pounds so they can not be very well armored. The upper end of that is typical for an uparmored Humvee.


Twitter

The problem with the whole being in Donbas idea is the red logo on one of the buildings is for Taganrog City Transit which is in Russia. (Birthplace Anton Chekhov BTW).




Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 5:17 am to
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Ukrainian Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov told French media on Wednesday that Russia had 500,000 troops ready for an attack to come in weeks.


I didn't see it in the thread...is this real?
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:11 am to
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The problem with the whole being in Donbas idea is the red logo on one of the buildings is for Taganrog City Transit which is in Russia. (Birthplace Anton Chekhov BTW).


While not in Donbas it is halfway between Rostov on Don and the border. The highway there goes to Mariupol. It would make sense to send a "tank killer" to where the ground is flat, in Southern Occupied Ukraine.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:43 am to
From @wartranslated, Girkin says that Ukraine just brought strong reinforcements to Bakhmut:

Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:55 am to
What?!!! This is terrible news. Nine months?

Bloomberg News:

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A new ground-launched, bomb-tipped rocket to be ordered from Boeing Co. will be part of the latest package of US arms for Ukraine that will be announced Friday by the White House and Pentagon, officials said.

The long-range hybrid weapon combines two proven devices: an Air Force Small-Diameter Bomb guided by GPS satellites that’s currently in wide use and an Army rocket already being operated by Ukraine’s forces. Like some other equipment provided by the US and allies, it won’t be deployed in Ukraine anytime soon: An industry official said it would take about nine months for the first deliveries once the Air Force issues a contract.

Funding for the precision-guided rockets would come from $1.75 billion in the Ukraine Security Assistance Initiative expected to be announced Friday. No more than $200 million would be allocated to the Boeing weapon initially, according to one of the officials, who like others asked not to be identified in advance of the weapons announcement. 




And $200 million? Earlier reports were that GLSDB was the bulk of the $1.75 billion in USAI that's getting announced today. That means that Ukraine is only getting a few thousand GLSDB rockets.

Incredibly disappointing. This war isn't going to end in 2023, unless Biden changes his mind and decides to give ATACMS to Ukraine. I do not understand Biden's thinking at all.
This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 6:58 am
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 6:58 am to
British Defence Intelligence
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 03 Febuary 2023
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE

The scale of Russian paramilitary Wagner Group's convict recruitment programme has probably significantly reduced from its peak between summer and autumn 2022.

The Russian Federal Penal Service (FSIN) figures released on 31 January 2023 reported a national penal population of 433,000, suggesting a decrease of 6000 inmates since November 2022. In contrast, FSIN data had indicated a decrease of 23,000 from September to November 2022. Wagner recruitment was likely a major contributing factor to this drop.

Separately, anecdotal evidence from Ukrainian combatants over the last ten days suggests a reduced Russian reliance on human wave style assaults by Wagner convict fighters in key sectors. Significant tensions between Wagner and the Russian Ministry of Defence are playing out in public; competition between factions in the Russian elite is likely to be partially responsible for the reduced supply of convicts.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:07 am to
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Incredibly disappointing. This war isn't going to end in 2023, unless Biden changes his mind and decides to give ATACMS to Ukraine. I do not understand Biden's thinking at all.


I'm not too surprised. The only way he might be more proactive is if there is a strong bipartisan push from congress.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:11 am to
You think that there are bad conspiracy theories on the Poliboard? Pah! Our conspiracy theories are but wee little tall tales compared to Russian conspiracy theories. Check out this one making its rounds on Russian Telegram today:

This post was edited on 2/3/23 at 7:12 am
Posted by SneezyBeltranIsHere
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:18 am to
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Russian reliance on human wave style assaults by Wagner convict fighters


Ever see Gallipoli with Mel Gibson?
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 7:51 am to
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You think that there are bad conspiracy theories on the Poliboard? Pah! Our conspiracy theories are but wee little tall tales compared to Russian conspiracy theories. Check out this one making its rounds on Russian Telegram today:

That is a schizophrenic talking to other schizophrenics. Wow.
Posted by Burhead
Member since Dec 2014
2100 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:02 am to
Germany has approved an export license for 88 Leopard 1 tanks for Ukraine. They are also in talks with Qatar to buy back 15 Gepard AA guns as well. Only problem is sourcing ammo the Leopard 1s use a 105mm gun.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:26 am to
14 and 14
88
All these numbers add up to what?

And coincidentally today is Michael Jordan day
2/3/23. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Posted by StormyMcMan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:34 am to
[quote]Ukraine is going to lose Bakhmut soon[/quote

Remember when this was supposed to happen before Jan 31 and the eastern front was collapsing

Not saying you're wrong btw more just making fun of the resident Russian sunshine pumpers because Russia actually made progress
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:42 am to
Don't underestimate the fact that Wagner was able to make progress in the Bakhmut area because they were using convicts in human wave assaults with the threat of immediate execution hanging over them if they fell back. There have also been reports of the Wagner troops being pumped up with drugs, but who knows if that's true or not? I think it's plausible given the we'll execute you if you fall back stance.

Will the regular Russian army do the same to its soldiers?
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:47 am to
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Ukraine is going to lose Bakhmut soon


And Russia will exhaust itself capturing a town of marginal significance. Then the Ukes will retreat to higher ground and dig in again. And then counter attack along a completely different axis. We've seen this twice already.


Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:52 am to
And prison discipline systems actually meant that convicts could be integrated into Wagner's systems fairly effectively. I don't think anyone disputes that Wagner has been a more effective fighting force that the Russian military as a whole.

It's why I am deeply skeptical (now that Wagner is largely a spent force) that Russia is going to be able to accomplish much with the upcoming "big offensive".
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 8:55 am to
Agreed, I doubt the regular Russian army resorts to such a harsh stance with their soldiers and therefore won't be as effective.
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 2/3/23 at 9:37 am to
We really don’t have ATACMS in the number to supply Ukraine is the major issue here. I think they already would have been supplied if that were the case. I do think eventually they will get them but we are talking about very small numbers and we would demand ultimate final go/no-go on any potential target. That being said, even 50 of them could do a hell of a lot of damage to Russia’s ability to maintain supply routes. I would think if you gave Ukraine even just 5 ATACMS you would see all 5 fly directly to Kerch. 9 months sounds about right also with the GLSDB. It sucks but it is what it is. It takes time to assemble then send them to Arkansas to be loaded into HIMARS pods and then to train the Ukrainians which won’t take long as well as get them half way around the world and onto the battlefield. A lot of moving parts here. Ukraine just needs to prepare to dig in deep and hold the line for the Russian attack. If they can do that and beat their attack off then you would have a spent Russian military trying to regroup and refit right at the time when Ukraine is getting a lot these newly promised weapons from the west.
Posted by DabosDynasty
Member since Apr 2017
5180 posts
Posted on 2/3/23 at 10:04 am to
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At the risk of asking a stupid question - why would anybody source munitions from a country with a constitutional prohibition on sending those munitions to conflict zones?

I would think “can we get more of this if war breaks out” would be a pretty key question at some point along the line… right?


The question isn’t stupid, but the people who made the decision are/were.
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